# Yep..people are staying away from FAHRENHEIT 9/11 in droves. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 26, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324 "2004-06-26T16:32:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/1 "2004-06-26T16:32:08Z")
[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-06-25&p=.htm](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-06-25&p=.htm) Great money for such a small amout of theaters. 1 FAHRENHEIT 9/11 868 $8,200,000 10921.5% / $9,447 $8,358,000 / 3 ---
**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/2 "2004-06-26T16:45:49Z")
All four of the theaters showing it in the Baltimore area were apparently sold out last night, according to my friends who tried to go. Good thing I went to that midnight showing, I suppose. I’ll be interested in seeing how many more theaters pick it up now that it’s proven its commercial viability, and how well it holds through the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/3 "2004-06-26T16:54:23Z")
Well, at the theater I saw it at last night, it out drew all five of the other movies, which included Harry Himself. It’s a local Arts theater, and it generally has a fairly small audience average for any movie, even the odd big draw that they show to stay in business. (i.e. Potter). The showing at 5:4O last night was not quite sold out, but close. There were about sixty people waiting in line for the next one, as we left. We have a Republican Senator, and Congressman, here. Folks laughed and applauded at times during the show. Tris ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/4 "2004-06-26T19:13:15Z")
I was going to go last night, but was feeling tired. I drove past the theater, which is normally pretty sleepy in summertime due to being a campus theatre aimed at students (with horrible parking)… The line was out the door! First time I’ve ever seen that happen. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/5 "2004-06-26T19:16:04Z")
I went to the 5:15 showing at a large Miami theater last night, and lines were out the door for that showing and the one after it. My three friends were in line ahead of me, and the show officially SOLD OUT right before I got up to buy my ticket. So what could I do? I ended up sneaking in to see it, since I wasn’t going to wait for them in the lobby! People whooped and clapped at various moments, and the audience gave it a standing ovation at the end… I’ve only seen such strong crowd reactions when I go to see “geek” movies on opening day, like the Star Wars, X-Men, and Spider-Man films. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/6 "2004-06-26T19:31:55Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > People whooped and clapped at various moments, and the audience gave it a standing ovation at the end… I’ve only seen such strong crowd reactions when I go to see “geek” movies on opening day, like the Star Wars, X-Men, and Spider-Man films. Well that kinda explains it right there, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/7 "2004-06-26T19:48:13Z")
Was there an industry projection of how much business they expected it to do? Doesn’t the studio or releasing company release an estimate, perhaps for sharholders in the company? Sometimes I hear things “Such-and-such movie made 10 million, which was a surprise because (somebody) expected it to only make 4 million,” but I have no idea where projections come from. Also, let me point out how whether the movie did well or not of course will be easily explained by rabid Bush supporters. If it did poorly, they’d probably say something like “It failed because the public knows it’s bullshit!” and now that it’s doing well I predict they’ll say something like “Obviously the public has been brainwashed by the [scary organ music]LIBERAL MEDIA[/som]!!!” Or course, the rabid anti-Bushes would have similar arguments either way also (poorly=“The public has bought W’s bullshit!” well=“It shows how fed-up the public is with Bush’s bullshit!”). And, Moore foes are making an [anti-Moore film festival](http://199.249.170.186/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000552469), that should make him proud. I would find that the finest honor the film could get if I were Moore, far better than an Academy Award. Whether they are or not, it looks like they are running scared and desperate. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/8 "2004-06-26T20:05:24Z")
I really don’t care for Moore’s ethos that the United States is the most evil nation in living memory, but I do like to see someone shake up the status quo as he tends to do. Last I heard, his movie was expected to break all records for a documentary. I’m certainly planning to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/9 "2004-06-26T20:16:43Z")
I found it interesting that Larry Elder’s film purports to be a pro-gun response to Moore’s “anti-gun” movie, **Bowling For Columbine** since BFC is not anti-gun and has nothing to do with gun control. Where did this misconception comes from that BFC is some sort of anti-gun screed? It drives me nuts when people who haven’t seen the movie claim that’s what it is. Moore is a provacateur, he’s biased, he’s not necessarily fair. But it seems like the anti-Moore crap has gone completely over the top, calling him a “liar” and comparing him to Nazi propagandists. These are people who have seen neither BFC nor F911 yet they’re experts on everything Moore. They never actually cite anything that Moore has lied about, mind you (except for linking to spurious web pages like Bowling for Truth which contain factually erroneous information) but they’ve decided (because they’ve been _told_ to by the right-wing media) that Moore just a hate-filled, lying loon with no substance at all. That’s bullshit. There are even people on this board who think they’re being oh so objective by likening Moore to a left wing Coulter. That’s just bullshit. A left wing John Stossel, maybe, he’s nowhere near as vicious and dishonest or as flat-out _crazy_ as Ann Coulter or Bill O’Reilly. I think Moore has been caricatured to an absurd degree by the right. He isn’t Rush Limbaugh. He does have _something_ to say. He does have _some_ substance, certainly more than Sean Hannity or any of those other nitwits at Fox. There are people on the right who have substance as well, PJ O’Rourke, George Will, Tucker Carlson and others. they’re still _wrong_ but they ahve substance. Since Michael Moore is really the only leftist voice out there in a sea of pro-Bush, pro-corporate, gung ho, conservative cheerleaders (and that includes the mainstream networks) he’s the guy who gets crucified. Oh,well. I’m glad people are seeing F911 but I fear it’s only the choir that’s going. Not very many Busco kool-aid swillers are going to want to have their preconceptions challenged. The cognitive dissonance would kill them. ---
**Author:** ![\_xiao\_wenti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b782af/32.png) [@\_xiao\_wenti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_xiao_wenti)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/10 "2004-06-27T00:01:28Z")
Well, I’d like to see it, but so far as I have been able to google, the closest place to see it is in Atlanta – 200 miles. Not even beeing shown in my state. Pshew. Not to worry. Hopefully I will be able to rent it on video. After the election. ---
**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/11 "2004-06-27T00:09:33Z")
> [@\_xiao\_wenti\_](#): > > … the closest place to see it is in Atlanta – 200 miles. Not even beeing shown in my state. … The land of the free. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/12 "2004-06-27T00:30:35Z")
I plan to see it. ---
**Author:** ![WCOT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WCOT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WCOT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/13 "2004-06-27T00:32:02Z")
> [@\_xiao\_wenti\_](#): > > Well, I’d like to see it, but so far as I have been able to google, the closest place to see it is in Atlanta – 200 miles. Not even beeing shown in my state. Pshew yeah same problem here, although its only 40 miles away the theater there charges $10 a ticket compared to $6 here ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/14 "2004-06-27T00:35:16Z")
[http://www.f911tix.com/results.php?st=IN](http://www.f911tix.com/results.php?st=IN) woohoo, kerasotes here in bloomington is showing it. I’m going to watch it. ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/15 "2004-06-27T00:55:22Z")
We pre-bought our tickets this morning for an 8 pm show. I’m expecting it to be mobbed. And I did round up quite a few friends to see it with as well, although I’m not feeling optimistic about all being able to sit together. I’m just hoping it isn’t horribly graphic, although I’m expecting it will be. Hopefully I’ll have enough warning to earnestly begin rooting through my bag at those moments. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/16 "2004-06-27T01:03:24Z")
Well, for comparison, _Harry Potter and the PoA_ brought in [$92 million](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=harrypotter3.htm) on opening weekend. _F-9/11_ is averaging $9,629 a theater, against _HP_’s $24,302 opening weekend. Granted, those are just Friday numbers for _F-9/11_. I also think you’re seeing long lines because it isn’t showing on as many screens. This isn’t a big movie weekend. For God’s sake, it’s up against _White Chicks_. Let’s see how it does next weekend, against _Spiderman 2_. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/17 "2004-06-27T01:33:38Z")
I saw it this afternoon with a packed house. This movie got more applause at the end than any other I’ve ever been to. I’m guessing there weren’t many Republicans in the crowd. I would like to know the reactions of any pro-Bush/ anti-Moore people to the film. There’s an awful lot in it that can’t just be dismissed by calling Moore a big fat liar. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/18 "2004-06-27T01:45:50Z")
**Ivylass** , it’s going to be hard to compare to HP since F9/11 opened in only 800+ theaters across the country. The theater here had sold out all shows by around noon. They could have sold plenty more tickets. Lots of folks were turned away. It is a _fascinating_ film. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/19 "2004-06-27T01:47:30Z")
That’s what I’m saying. The long lines and sellout could be due to the smaller release. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324/20 "2004-06-27T01:54:41Z")
> [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#): > > I really don’t care for Moore’s ethos that the United States is the most evil nation in living memory, … Please, for the love of God, see something that Moore has made first before making such a claim. From “Roger and Me” down, Micheal Moore is a 100% true-blue America-loving patriot. He is against certain _people_ and _companies_ who are selling his beloved nation down the drain. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yep-people-are-staying-away-from-fahrenheit-9-11-in-droves/252324.md?page=2)