# Yer Darn Tootin': The "Fargo" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 16, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316 "2009-09-16T13:46:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/81 "2009-09-18T05:23:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> She was asking that about the hotel, the Radisson, it’s room rates. Then she met the friend in the hotel restaurant.

Are you sure about that? I thought she was asking if there was anywhere good to eat and met with Mike specifically, not by chance as is kinda sorta implied in your post.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/82 "2009-09-18T05:32:06Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Are you sure about that? I thought she was asking if there was anywhere good to eat and met with Mike specifically, not by chance as is kinda sorta implied in your post.

No, she had to go to the big city to go interview Jerry. She was recommended the Radisson while in Brainerd and asked there if it was reasonable. There’s even a scene of her checking into the hotel later on arrival. Then she meets Mike while she’s in town by arrangement. He compliments her on the place, and she shrugs and says: “It’s a Radisson,” which is a hotel chain, not a restaurant chain. They’re in the hotel restaurant, meeting there because it’s convenient.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/83 "2009-09-18T05:34:29Z")

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And this is why I try not to post when I’m sleepy. If I manage to string together a coherent post, I still have to be able to figure out other people’s posts or the subject thereof.

Must not post while sleepy. :smack:

EDIT: All I have left to say is [“Fuck you man, where’s Jerry?”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2zQTb_YQ9s)😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/84 "2009-09-18T06:34:15Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I believe the line was: “There’s more to life than a little bit of money, you know.”

That _still_ didn’t sound quite right, so I looked it up, and the actual lines are:

“So that was Mrs. Lundegaard on the floor in there. And I guess that was your accomplice in the wood chipper. And those three people in Brainerd. And for what? **For a little bit of money. There’s more to life than a little money, you know.** Don’tcha know that? And here ya are, and it’s a beautiful day. Well. I just don’t understand it.”

Another thing I like about the film is all the little ways Grimsrud communicates his status as an ex-convict – or at least, I had the impression he was an ex-con – without coming out and saying he’d been in prison. Such as his obsession with “Pancakes House.” I understood that to mean he must have really, _really_ missed pancakes while in the pen.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/85 "2009-09-18T07:13:39Z")

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> [@Ichbin\_Dubist](#):
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> “I couldn’t really say… He wasn’t circumcised.”

Like I say, he was funny-lookin’. More’n most people, even.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/86 "2009-09-18T07:25:31Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Nitpicks:
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> I believe the line was: “There’s more to life than a little bit of money, you know.”
> 
> She was asking that about the hotel, the Radisson, it’s room rates. Then she met the friend in the hotel restaurant.

You’ve been whooshed. **lieu** ’s line, “There’s more to life than a little evil, you know,” was in response to the question of how Marge would handle Anton Chigurh from _No Country for Old Men_.

As for the Radisson, here are the lines from the movie:

> [@](#):
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> Would you happen to know a good place  
> for lunch in the downtown area?
> 
> The Radisson.
> 
> Oh, yah. Is it reasonable?

ObQuote:

Carl Showalter: So, uh, how long you work for the escort service?

Escort: I don’t know. A few months.

Carl: Find that work interesting, do you?

Escort: What are you talkin’ about?

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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/87 "2009-09-18T09:04:22Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> EDIT: All I have left to say is [“Fuck you man, where’s Jerry?”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2zQTb_YQ9s)😃

The clip reminded me of how good this movie really is. Great acting by both Buscemi and Presnell in that parking lot scene.

Being Scandinavian myself, I also had to laugh a bit at the chair in the hallway that Jerry’s sitting on when he comes home. Scandinavians don’t wear shoes inside their houses and thusly older people are inclined to put chairs in the hallway, so you don’t have to bend down every time you take the shoes on or off.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/88 "2009-09-18T09:36:15Z")

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Yah! Just a sec!

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/89 "2009-09-18T12:00:49Z")

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Whoa, daddy!

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/90 "2009-09-18T12:14:23Z")

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> [@rock\_party](#):
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> I’m guessing Jerry had a problem with either gambling or hookers and blow.
> 
> He seemed like a decent husband to his wife Jean, and they lived in a fairly modest house considering Jean’s families resources.

Carl Showalter: Hey, you’re there in 30 minutes, Jerry, or I find you, Jerry, and I shoot you and I shoot your fuckin’ wife and I shoot all your fuckin’ children and I shoot them all in the back of their little fuckin’ heads; you got it?

Jerry Lundegaard: Okay, now you stay away from Scotty, now.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/91 "2009-09-18T12:16:35Z")

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I was delighted to see that before she was kidnapped, Jean was drinking out of a Red Wing coffee cup in the pattern called [Pepe.](http://www.tias.com/195/PictPage/1921839161.html) Made in Red Wing, Minnesota, dontcha know.

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/92 "2009-09-18T13:00:42Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Nitpick: Coen Brothers, not Cohen.

Doh! I knew that.

I thought the whole point for why Jerry needed money was to get out from under the thumb of his father-in-law, and to be able to take care of his family like a real man. That’s why we have the pitiful car scam, parking lot scheme, and kidnap plot.

> [@](#):
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> Jerry: This could work out real good for me and Jean and Scotty.
> 
> Wade: Jean and Scotty never have to worry.

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/93 "2009-09-18T14:17:36Z")

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“So you were havin’ sex with the little guy…?”

I was amazed at the pretty wholesome farm girl hookers in _Fargo_. My husband, who spent some time in the northcentral US as a young man, regaled me with tales of what the strippers looked like.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/94 "2009-09-18T15:30:10Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> This is so NOT the reason for it…what would make you think that?

A character who was isolated from Minnesota society, despite his efforts to fit in, was Asian, and IIRC the only non-Scandinavian in the film. Could be a coincidence, the whole scene could be just a throw-in, but would you really expect that from the Coens?

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**Author:** ![rock\_party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@rock\_party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rock_party)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/95 "2009-09-18T15:33:39Z")

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While Jerry was extrodinarily selfish having his wife kidnapped and put in danger like that, the household  
seemed to funtion ok and seem rather normal. He picked up groceries on his way home, and was greeted with, “oh hey hun!” by Jean.

However, Jean seemed kinda nervous and uptight…caught between a sucessful, domineering father, and her looser husband.

I wonder what is it that made Jerry such a looser? Can’t keep a job (so father-in-law puts him to work?Gambling? Substance abuse? Cheater?

Fargo 2 could explore “the backstory” for us.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/96 "2009-09-18T16:18:47Z")

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I had a roommate from Minnesota and he said the portrayal of the locals was frighteningly on-target. Jerry’s wife in particular behaved identically to his old neighbor.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/97 "2009-09-18T16:19:50Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> You’ve been whooshed. **lieu** ’s line, “There’s more to life than a little evil, you know,” was in response to the question of how Marge would handle Anton Chigurh from _No Country for Old Men_.

D’oh! :smack:

> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> As for the Radisson, here are the lines from the movie:
> 
> Quote:  
> Would you happen to know a good place  
> for lunch in the downtown area?
> 
> The Radisson.
> 
> Oh, yah. Is it reasonable?

That does sound familiar now that you mention it. But she was staying at the Radisson. So you mean back in Brainerd she asked about a lunch place and then decided to stay there based on that?

EDIT: This is a bit confusing now. [Imdb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116282/quotes) says she checked into the Radisson:

\*\*Marge Gunderson: [to Radisson hotel concierge] I’m doing really super there, thanks. I am Mrs. Gunderson. I have a reservation.  
Hotel Clerk: Yep, you sure do, Mrs. Gunderson.  
Marge Gunderson: [smiling] Is there a phone down here, you think? \*\*

But then on the lobby phone asks:

**Marge Gunderson: [on lobby phone, asking advice about a restaurant] Is it reasonable?**

So she’s asking on the phone about the place she’s already in?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/98 "2009-09-18T17:31:00Z")

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> [@PoorYorick](#):
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> Ask, and ye shall receive, dontcha know.

Thank you, and thanks to **rock party** , dontcha know.

Do people from there really talk like that? I know Sarah Palin does, but I was born just south of there and I don’t remember that. (I was really young though.) Didn’t the Coens get a bit of flack for it?

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/99 "2009-09-18T17:53:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> A character who was isolated from Minnesota society, despite his efforts to fit in, was Asian, and IIRC the only non-Scandinavian in the film. Could be a coincidence, the whole scene could be just a throw-in, but would you really expect that from the Coens?

Come on now. I defy you to watch the [scene](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ge4F4E9JE) and point out where Mike wasn’t crazy, or Margie acted unfriendly in any way. Especially when it’s revealed that he made up the whole dead wife story.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yer-darn-tootin-the-fargo-thread/510316/100 "2009-09-18T18:03:41Z")

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In an episode of The Venture Brothers, Steve Park did the voice for a scientist named Mike Suriyama and did it in that same style as Mike Yamagita. A nice little homage/in-joke.

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