# Yes Co President Cheney. Profanity befits you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098 "2004-06-24T22:53:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/61 "2004-06-25T07:13:47Z")
What Cheney said was rude but I’m not shocked he said it. He’s always come across with a defensive asshole with mean-spirited disposition. After all, he isn’t the administration’s hatchet-man for nothing. Still, for some perverse reason, I’m disappointed that the whole affair didn’t erupt into a full-tilt bare-knuckles brawl right there on the Senate floor. I would’ve liked it if Leahy responded to Cheney’s “Fuck you” request by saying, “Excuse me Dicker-Ticker, but I didn’t hear you. Would you care to step closer and say that to my face?” When Leahy says this, there’d be dead silence throughout the Senate chamber. Cheney, still feeling antagonistic, would then quietly walk up to Leahy until they’re practically nose-to-nose and loudly bellow, “FUCK YOU!” And then, it would be on. Leahy would strike Cheney with a left hook that would send the Vice-President reeling. Cheney, however, would quickly recover and, fighting dirty, use his right to hit Leahy with a low blow that causes the Senator to double over. The Veep would then try to tackle Leahy to the ground so he’ll be able to get in some swift kicks to the Vermont Democrat’s head. However, Leahy would be able to dodge the charging former CEO of Halliburton, grab him, and put him in a headlock where he’d deliver a half-dozen jabs to Cheney’s ear. Then, Cheney would clutch his chest and Leahy would allow the VP to escape his headlock. “No mas, no mas,” the Wyoming Republican would declare as he seemingly begins to have trouble breathing. Believing the donnybrook to be over, Leahy would withdraw and turn his back on his apparently defeated foe. Bad move! Cheney would suddenly spring back to life and smack Leahy across the back of the head with a folded chair. As the Senator crumples to the ground, Cheney would move in for the kill only to be blindsided by an unexpected clothes-line punch from Ted Kennedy. Bill Frist would then try to aid the stunned Vice-President by leaping on top of Kennedy. From there, it would be dirty-for-dirty, blood-for-blood, Republican-Democrat action as the chamber would erupt into U.S. Senate Smackdown '04! (I’m sorry. This is getting too silly. I’ll stop now.) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/62 "2004-06-25T10:25:47Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Yes I do my idiot friend. But then again, I am just Joe Sixpack. I am not a leader of my country. For which you should be glad. Just in case you do make it there some day, fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/63 "2004-06-25T11:40:43Z")
If there was ever a time for a Senator to grab his walking stick, ascend that dais, and give the offender an 1850’s style beat down - and I mean a momentous, historically significant beat down, one which schoolkids will be talking about wide-eyed, 200 years from now - that was the moment. A shame! Such windows of opportunity open and close so quickly. We must all stay vigilant. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/64 "2004-06-25T11:41:55Z")
> [@chique](#): > > Waitwaitwait… > > _Cheney_ said this? The guy from the Republican party? The guy from the **family values** party? The family values party that is all up in arms about the sex, violence, and obscenity-laden speech so prevalent in today’s pop culture? > > I’m going to start a written tally of all the reasons I’m voting against this administration. Should this go under “Hypocrisy” or “Two-faced”? I’m a little out of the loop, so what I might say next could be just hot air, but I could swear that Bush/Cheney had something to do with all the FCC fines and regulations recentally. Could be just a little too much listening to Stern the last few mornings, but if Bush/Cheney are trying to supress what they deem ‘profanity’ then I think this is a highly hypocritical comment by Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/65 "2004-06-25T13:02:29Z")
I was rushed last night; my “Big fucking deal” still stands. **Reeder** , what in the world makes you think _anyone_ will care about this? In what way will it have any effect on how someone votes? I cuss, you cuss, we all cuss. Even the people that don’t cuss have heard it before, and except for the prigs, aren’t bothered by it. You know, I just cannot figure out why you believe that posting these picayune little complaints is worth it. This administration has performed so many despicable, immoral, and even criminal acts - and all you can come up with is this stupid shit? Whatever. I agree with **elfbabe** ; I love the “frank exchange of views” characterization. I’ve always pictured this in diplomacy when leaders meet. Let’s say you have Sadat and Begin going at it tooth-and-nail in a back room at Camp David. They get them cleaned up, bring them out with Carter between them, and Jimmy says in his soft, sonorous, southern drawl, “We enjoyed a frank exchange of views today.” At least that’s how _I’ve_ always pictured the meaning of that phrase. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/66 "2004-06-25T13:04:35Z")
The story is page A4 of the Wsshington Post, with the obscenity, “fuck yourself,” written out in full. They’re going to get some outraged letters about that, I’ll bet. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/67 "2004-06-25T13:26:18Z")
One can read the Washington Post article here: [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html) ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/68 "2004-06-25T13:54:48Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > The story is page A4 of the Wsshington Post, with the obscenity, “fuck yourself,” written out in full. They’re going to get some outraged letters about that, I’ll bet. Bummer, after all this, I was hoping he had said “Fucko Off” as some kind of shout-out… well, I guess I’ll just wish in one hand and crap in the other… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/69 "2004-06-25T14:23:47Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Neither one is anywhere near as bad as killing American soldiers and Iraqi soldiers on false pretenses, but that’s just my opinion. I agree. But we’re not talking about the war here. Cheney told a senator to go fuck himself. So long as we’re picking nits here, is one adult saying the F-word to another adult in response to a (possible) personal attack better or worse than cheating on your wife? BTW, I compare them because the same argument has been used for both now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/70 "2004-06-25T14:34:00Z")
In the obscure culture of Washington Leahy gets some idle points for making Cheney lose his cool a bit but that’s it. And it doesn’t really add up to anything except some bragging points and a one-day wonder. And I speak as a man who told our accoutant to fuck off in staff meeting yesterday. It led to a stern talking to from my boss but I betcha she backs off a bit (the accountant). ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/71 "2004-06-25T14:46:51Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > (I’m sorry. This is getting too silly. I’ll stop now.) Gee, I rather enjoyed it. But stopping where you did might have been wise. Since both houses are controlled by the Pubs, and the Dems outnumbered, you’d have a Little Big Horn scenereo pretty quickly, I’m afraid, and that just wouldn’t be pretty at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/72 "2004-06-25T15:00:57Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Leahy would strike Cheney with a left hook that would send the Vice-President reeling. Cheney, however, would quickly recover and, fighting dirty, use his right to hit Leahy with a low blow that causes the Senator to double over. The Veep would then try to tackle Leahy to the ground so he’ll be able to get in some swift kicks to the Vermont Democrat’s head. However, Leahy would be able to dodge the charging former CEO of Halliburton, grab him, and put him in a headlock where he’d deliver a half-dozen jabs to Cheney’s ear. > > Then, Cheney would clutch his chest and Leahy would allow the VP to escape his headlock. “No mas, no mas,” the Wyoming Republican would declare as he seemingly begins to have trouble breathing. Believing the donnybrook to be over, Leahy would withdraw and turn his back on his apparently defeated foe. > > Bad move! Cheney would suddenly spring back to life and smack Leahy across the back of the head with a folded chair. As the Senator crumples to the ground, Cheney would move in for the kill only to be blindsided by an unexpected clothes-line punch from Ted Kennedy. Bill Frist would then try to aid the stunned Vice-President by leaping on top of Kennedy. From there, it would be dirty-for-dirty, blood-for-blood, Republican-Democrat action as the chamber would erupt into U.S. Senate Smackdown '04! That’s when Vince McMahon comes down the aisle with a microphone. "Wait just a damn minute! Who the hell do you think you are? I’m not letting something like this happen! Not here, not now! This will be settled on the biggest stage of them all. At **Super Tuesday '04[sup]TM[/sup]** it will be Dick “Big Time” Cheney against Liberal Leahy _ **in a steel cage!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/73 "2004-06-25T15:23:35Z")
> [@](#): > > [Remarks by the Vice President at a Rally for Bush-Cheney '04 > Springfield Expo Center > Springfield, Missouri > June 21, 2004](http://billmon.org/archives/001582.html) > > THE VICE PRESIDENT: Thank you. (Applause.) > > AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! > > THE VICE PRESIDENT: You fucking got that right. (Laughter. Applause.) > > You know on the way over here, we had to make a fucking stop at Johnny Moore’s Bass Pro Shops. (Laughter.) We had some fucking time on our hands, and I couldn’t go by Bass Pro Shops without stopping. I mean, I’m on their fucking list, and they’ve got a whole lot of my fucking money. (Laughter.) > > But as we went through, there were a fuck load of folks gathered around. And they wanted to shake my fucking hand and so forth and have their fucking picture taken. One young man came up and asked to have his fucking picture taken with me. So I said, what the fuck, sure. So we took the fucking photograph, and then he stepped away and he said - he said, my dad is a fucking Democrat and this picture is going to drive him fucking nuts. (Laughter and applause.) > > I responded, I said, that’s fucking nothing, wait till you see what the fuck we’re going to do to John Kerry on November 2nd. (Applause.) No really, I’m fucking serious about this. We’re going to stomp on his fucking nuts and stuff them right up his sorry fucking ass - just like I did with that fucking loser Pat Leahy. (Laughter. Applause.) The juxtaposed photographs at the end are a killer. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/74 "2004-06-25T15:34:18Z")
Let me just emphasize something here: Reeder is…INDEED **Joe Sixpack** It bears repeating for the fiftieth time. Does it bother you at all **Reeder** that i opened this thread with the muttered words, “what’s this nutball up to today?” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/75 "2004-06-25T15:47:38Z")
Does anyone else think this might have been a calculated move on Cheney’s part? Now everybody’s talking about “fuck you” and nobody’s talking about Haliburton. It’s like the SNL skit where “Cheney” told “Condoleeza Rice” to flash a breast and that’ll be the headline. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/76 "2004-06-25T16:05:31Z")
Desmo, that was hillarious! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/77 "2004-06-25T16:08:56Z")
When I was about 10 or 11, I went with my father to one of his bowling league nights. He was by far the youngest guy there, maybe in his mid 30s. The rest of the league consisted of mostly 60-70 year old men. One of the older men left himself a 7-10 split and said “Fuck” loudly. I was shocked, it was the first time I had ever heard the word off of the school yard. My father saw the look on my face, laughed, and said “…and you thought we didn’t know that word, huh?” “Fuck you” or “fuck off” is not that big a deal. We hear it every day. I don’t understand why people get so torqued up when they hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/78 "2004-06-25T16:28:26Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > I think everyone is losing it these days. Jesus, that’s got to be one of the most apt things I’ve read in the last couple years. Maybe it’s a matter of getting older, but does anyone else feel like the whole world is going insane around them? Does this happen to everyone occasionally, or is it a sign of something ominous to come? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/79 "2004-06-25T16:46:57Z")
A vulgar reflection of a vulgar soul. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/80 "2004-06-25T16:48:03Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > If there was ever a time for a Senator to grab his walking stick, ascend that dais, and give the offender an 1850’s style beat down \* \* \* that was the moment. Ah, an 1850s-Style Caning. What’s the big deal. Isn’t this basically what Cheney told Congress when they started looking into his energy task force? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098.md?page=5)