# Yes Co President Cheney. Profanity befits you.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098 "2004-06-24T22:53:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/81 "2004-06-25T16:48:36Z")

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Indeed, anyone who has ever uttered “go fuck yourself” in anger has a vulgar soul

oh wait:

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/82 "2004-06-25T16:49:53Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Maybe it’s a matter of getting older, but does anyone else feel like the whole world is going insane around them?

The current environment does seem ripe for bringing out the insanity in everyone.

You’re not alone man.

[sub]…or maybe you are[/sub]

\<cue Twilight Zone theme\>

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/83 "2004-06-25T17:09:34Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> A vulgar reflection of a vulgar soul.

If that’s the case, then there are an awful lot of Charter Members with vulgar souls.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/84 "2004-06-25T17:24:44Z")

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I would suggest that the DA’s office in Washington DC consider filing criminal charges against Mr. Cheney. In both states that I have lived in there was a criminal statute prohibiting “Issuing fighting words”.  
In at least one of those states there was case law indicating that you could be properly convicted even if the insulted party was unlikely to actually respond with violence.  
Is there such a law in DC?  
I think that, properly phrased, this sounds like a GQ.  
I would certainly assert that “Go fuck yourself” falls under the category of “fighting words”.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/85 "2004-06-25T17:31:32Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> Indeed, anyone who has ever uttered “go fuck yourself” in anger has a vulgar soul
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> oh wait:
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> :rolleyes:

Hey, go fuck yourself!

I’m such a vulgar person…

😉

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**Author:** ![Yamirskoonir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c0e974/32.png) [@Yamirskoonir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yamirskoonir)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/86 "2004-06-25T18:56:44Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> That’s when Vince McMahon comes down the aisle with a microphone. "Wait just a damn minute! Who the hell do you think you are? I’m not letting something like this happen! Not here, not now! This will be settled on the biggest stage of them all. At **Super Tuesday '04[sup]TM[/sup]** it will be Dick “Big Time” Cheney against Liberal Leahy _ **in a steel cage!!** _

Nah, I’ll hold out for the **TLC** Match. **Tables, Ladders and Chairs!!!** 😃

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/87 "2004-06-25T19:53:43Z")

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**Reeder** wrote

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> Yes I do my idiot friend. But then again, I am just Joe Sixpack.

May I ask why you intentionally set your moral standards for yourself so low?

I mean this seriously: what’s the value of a moral stance if you don’t uphold it yourself? How can you morally expect to hold people to standards that you won’t hold yourself to?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/88 "2004-06-25T20:23:27Z")

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You do know that Moore doesn’t like Democrats, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/89 "2004-06-25T20:26:06Z")

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Wrong thread, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/90 "2004-06-25T21:15:41Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> If that’s the case, then there are an awful lot of Charter Members with vulgar souls.

There’s appropriate and inappropriate times and places for profanity. Cheney was in a place inappropriate, IMO. This board less so.

That said, I don’t really care about him dropping the F-bomb. I dislike the man for his politics, not his language.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/91 "2004-06-25T21:38:56Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Just in case you do make it there some day, fuck you.

How so very _republican_ of you.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/92 "2004-06-25T21:43:27Z")

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Oh, man, I don’t know. A debate with Cheney and Kerry (I don’t think one with Bush would be all that entertaining, because I don’t think he could come up with any good one-liners) including any and all profanities would be just _such_ a hoot.

Kerry: You lied out of your _fucking ass_ about Iraq.  
Cheney: Listen, Ketchupfucker, you don’t know shit from shit. You get the kinda clearance I have, and you see all kinds of incriminating evidence, so shut your hole.  
Kerry: Bull-_shit_. You guys never had jack. Fuck, on 9/11 you couldn’t find your ass with both hands. And leave my wife out of it.  
Cheney: What the fuck do you know about whatever the fuck I did nor did not know?  
Kerry: Oh, what have you got, CIA evidence? Yeah, fucking bang-up job you assholes did with your so-called evidence for the Security Council. I gotta ask, did you send Powell up there _before_ or _after_ he found out it was a steaming crock of shit?  
Cheney: Oh fuck you. We always had credible evidence that Osama was up Saddam’s ass so far he could see his teeth.  
Kerry: Give me a _fucking break_. What, a few phone calls? I mean, if that’s what you call guilt-by-association, Bush feels your sweaty bald dome on his Adam’s Apple.  
Cheney: You son-of-a-bitch!  
Kerry: Easy, killer, you got a heart condition.  
Cheney: When I put my foot up your ass you’re gonna have a few health concerns yourself, Lurch.

Moderator: We’d like to thank our sponsor, Preperation H before going to this commercial break.

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**Author:** ![Yamirskoonir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c0e974/32.png) [@Yamirskoonir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yamirskoonir)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/93 "2004-06-25T21:48:57Z")

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> [@BJMoose](#):
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> > [@RTA](#):
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> > If there was ever a time for a Senator to grab his walking stick, ascend that dais, and give the offender an 1850’s style beat down \* \* \* that was the moment.
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> Ah, an 1850s-Style Caning.

I do believe **RTA** is referring to this incident: [The Caning of Senator Charles Sumner](http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm)

Nope, no precedent for vulgarity on the Senate floor, none at all…

IMHO, the insults of those gentlemen from the 1850’s were far more wittier and inspired than Cheney’s use of the simple modern slander “fuck off/you.” It almost makes him seem lazy in comparison…

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/94 "2004-06-25T22:01:35Z")

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Well I for one thank you, **Reeder** for your revelation. You do make a difference.

I am now so convinced that both major parties are irretrievably _vulgar_ that I will definitely vote for Nader.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/95 "2004-06-25T22:04:47Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> The story is page A4 of the Wsshington Post, with the obscenity, “fuck yourself,” written out in full. They’re going to get some outraged letters about that, I’ll bet.

Well, this changes everything. I mean, “fuck you” is an aggressive assault, whereas “fuck yourself” is a suggestion for auto-eroticism, for which the good Senator should thank the VP.

Maybe it was in response to the Senator asking Unca Dick for advice on what to do to calm himself down, or how to get through those long nights when the Mrs. is back in Hometown visiting the cats.

We shouldn’t underestimate the spin that can be put on this, folks.

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**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/96 "2004-06-25T22:06:26Z")

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I, for one, am glad there are rules of decorum enforced on the floor of the legislature.

It’s the only thing keeping our House of Representatives from becoming the British House of Commons!

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/97 "2004-06-25T22:27:28Z")

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**Yamirskoonir** ( where the hell did that come from, how the hell do you pronounce it) has hit the nail on the head. The sorrow, the disappointment, the irritation is that the Vice-President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the most prestigious debating society and old boys club in the world, could not think of anyway to deal with an elected representative of the people in a public setting and in the senate chamber, except to throw out a vulgarity that would spring to the mind of an elementary school student. This is the level of debate in this country? In an interview on our favorite network the Vice-President seemed to think his barracks room vulgarity to Senator Lahey was particularity appropriate and witty.

I am not a Second Amendment fanatic but there was a time in America and Western Europe that gentlemen and commoner alike went armed and were expected to express resentment by resort to a blade if socially accepted boundaries were pushed too far. Back then folks were a little more careful about what they said lest it be the last talking they do. Maybe senators should start carrying side arms.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/98 "2004-06-25T22:35:41Z")

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> [@bughunter](#):
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> I, for one, am glad there are rules of decorum enforced on the floor of the legislature.
> 
> It’s the only thing keeping our House of Representatives from becoming the British House of Commons!

Heah, heah, heah, heah, heah…

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/99 "2004-06-25T23:08:37Z")

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> [@Spavined Gelding](#):
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> I am not a Second Amendment fanatic but there was a time in America and Western Europe that gentlemen and commoner alike went armed and were expected to express resentment by resort to a blade if socially accepted boundaries were pushed too far. Back then folks were a little more careful about what they said lest it be the last talking they do. Maybe senators should start carrying side arms.

So are you _nostalgic_ for duel? Man, I’d much prefer having little old ladies tell me to stick it up my ass than guys shooting at each other over a little “go fucketh thyself” here or there. Hollywood glorified the duel with sixguns at twenty paces, and so forth, but real gentlemanly duels were kind of pathetic. Men meet at the agreed-upon time and place, would walk some distance away from one another, wait for a referee, and, on the ref’s mark, shoot volley after volley in a most chillingly methodical and banal manner until one or both was hit. Often the loser would linger for days in excruciating pain until internal bleeding and sepsis finally claimed them, while the “winner” might suffer guilt, ignominy, reprisals, even suicide on occasion for the torment of breaking a commandment.

Yeah, those were the good old days.

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**Author:** ![Mottpot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Mottpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mottpot)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-co-president-cheney-profanity-befits-you/252098/100 "2004-06-25T23:41:06Z")

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[CU Pres Elizabeth Hoffman] People people people . . . . I’ve actually heard “Go fuck yourself” used as a term of endearment [/ Elizabeth Hoffman]

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