# Yes, dammit, one CAN prove a fucking negative

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 23, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846 "2005-07-23T21:08:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/81 "2005-07-28T03:43:02Z")

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[A bit ago, I made this thread asking the same thing.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296481)

That coming from personal experience, by the way. On another board, people were accusing me of being something I wasn’t, but with no proof. They then said that I didn’t have any proof NOT showing I wasn’t it either…and it just didn’t make sense to me.  
This has no point to the topic at hand other then just saying that it may be possible to prove a negative…but I’d think it would be pretty damn hard, if so.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/82 "2005-07-28T08:55:44Z")

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Another warm welcome back to **Spiritus**. This messsage board just improved immensely the instant he clicked ‘Submit Reply’.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/83 "2005-07-28T11:01:50Z")

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> [@SlyFrog](#):
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> As we know,  
> There are known knowns.  
> There are things we know we know.  
> We also know  
> There are known unknowns.  
> That is to say  
> We know there are some things  
> We do not know.  
> But there are also unknown unknowns,  
> The ones we don’t know  
> We don’t know.
> 
> –Donald Rumsfeld

Wow. Sheer poetry.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/84 "2005-07-28T11:11:09Z")

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> [@Spiritus Mundi](#):
>
> **Lib** (A new nick? You can’t disguise that inimitable style.)
> 
> I’ve been better; I’ve been worse; but mostly I’ve been insanely busy. I missed this place, but I had to scale back my time to necessities for a while.
> 
> Thanks for the wam welcome.

Tuba changed my username, oh, maybe six months ago. I was inspired by [this Von Mises volume](http://www.mises.org/liberal.asp).

I don’t know how exposed you’ve been to Sentient, but together you two make an utterly formidable defense of materialism/physicalism. And both of you have intellects so keen that you could even argue the opposite side compellingly. It is good to know that the best debates are still ahead.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/85 "2005-07-28T12:02:18Z")

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I look forward to regularly exposing myself to **Spiritus** whether he likes it or not.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/86 "2005-07-28T15:03:40Z")

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I’ll withhold judgment until I see the bulk of the evidence. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-dammit-one-can-prove-a-fucking-negative/313846/87 "2005-07-28T17:24:46Z")

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Wow, and I only had to pay some $8 odd dollars for this? I feel like I’m cheating the gods.

Anyway, I too, welcome the whole lot of you to future debates. I’ve enjoyed and learned a lot from this thread so far. Keep it up fellas.

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