# Yes, I am Gay.  No, I am Not Interested in Your Straight Ass.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528 "2003-11-11T02:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/41 "2003-11-12T13:07:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LaurAnge \*  
> \*\*I dunno.
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> Frankly, I feel uncomfortable in locker rooms because I **do** have an intense desire to look.
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> However, as a friend of mine pointed out when we were discussing this, people who really really didn’t want you to look wouldn’t get naked in front of you. I don’t know if this is at all different for guys. \*\*

Men, in my experience, just don’t care. I know that Dave has no modesty whatsoever, neither did my ex. Nor my brothers, nor my brother’s friends. I think this kicks in at about 15. Then it’s fine to prance your naked self in front of EVERYONE.

I don’t care who I’m naked in front of, as long as she has the same parts as I do. I won’t strip in mixed company, is what I’m saying, but a woman’s locker room even if it’s stuffed to the gills with gay and bi women? Who cares? We all have the same body parts, even if they’re in different shapes and such. Let them look, let them drool, let them throw up in their mouth a little bit; I don’t care as long as their hands aren’t on me.

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**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/42 "2003-11-12T13:21:59Z")

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Nice try, Jervoise, but I know you want me. I don’t blame you, you’re only human.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/43 "2003-11-12T14:04:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \*  
> \*\*Let them look, let them drool, let them throw up in their mouth a little bit; I don’t care as long as their hands aren’t on me. \*\*

Hm… come to think of it, I never **have** groped anyone as they walked by in the locker room!

That was basically the argument my friend was making. I am still, however, completely uncomfortable and I get out of locker rooms darn quick when there’s naked people.

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**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/44 "2003-11-12T14:20:05Z")

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**Jervoise** ,

This is an interesting thread. Because I remember reading some gay activist guy a while back making essentially the same claim - that gays are not attracted to straight people. And as this did not make sense to me, I started a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=29267) about it, and there was pretty much a consensus that orientation makes little or no difference in terms of sexual attraction, but does make a difference in terms of likelihood of pursuing a relationship. But now I see you making what appears to be the same claim as the original guy - that you have “no interest” at all in straight men.

Is this correct? And if it is, would you agree that you are not typical in this? (In which case, your buddies are possibly undeserving of this rant, as they are likely unaware of your specific proclivities).

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/45 "2003-11-12T14:34:14Z")

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No one is _ever_ interested in my straight ass. :sigh:

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/46 "2003-11-12T15:09:47Z")

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> And as this did not make sense to me, I started a thread about it, and there was pretty much a consensus that orientation makes little or no difference in terms of sexual attraction, but does make a difference in terms of likelihood of pursuing a relationship. But now I see you making what appears to be the same claim as the original guy - that you have “no interest” at all in straight men.

Sexual attraction and lack of interest are not mutually exclusive. I lust after Peter Dinklage (he may be short, but, damn, he’s sexy). He is hetero. Now if he were, say, a co-worker or a guy at the gym, I’d think he was yummy, but I’d just treat him like anybody else because there would be no point in asking him out–he’s straight.

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**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/47 "2003-11-12T15:18:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> Sexual attraction and lack of interest are not mutually exclusive. I lust after Peter Dinklage (he may be short, but, damn, he’s sexy). He is hetero. Now if he were, say, a co-worker or a guy at the gym, I’d think he was yummy, but I’d just treat him like anybody else because there would be no point in asking him out–he’s straight.

Well there might be no point in _asking_ him out, but there might be a point in _checking_ him out. Which is what makes these guys uneasy, and what Jervoise has emphatically denied.

What he seems to be saying is that beyond the fact that he will “treat [straight guys] like anybody else”, he is also uninterested in them as well. (IOW, he does not think they are “yummy”)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/48 "2003-11-12T15:32:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\* I lust after Peter Dinklage ( ]. \*\*

For a second there, I thought “Poor guy, what an unfortunate name”.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/49 "2003-11-12T15:49:31Z")

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> Well there might be no point in asking him out, but there might be a point in checking him out. Which is what makes these guys uneasy, and what Jervoise has emphatically denied

Well, speaking only for myself, I have no interest in checking out guys in the locker room because as an American male, I have been socialized Not To Stare at Other Guys in the Locker Room. In addition, most naked men are not an erotic vision–they just don’t have any clothes on.

OTOH, if an especially hot guy were to cross my line of vision, I wouldn’t avert my eyes nor would I indicate any interest in any way.

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**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/50 "2003-11-12T15:55:31Z")

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Hey, wait a minute.

You mean this message board has a poster who is a homosexual?

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**Author:** ![Teegus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Teegus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teegus)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/51 "2003-11-12T16:35:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*No one is _ever_ interested in my straight ass. :sigh: \*\*

Ah. So its a 1920s style “Death Ass” Then?  
😃  
d&r

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/52 "2003-11-12T16:36:24Z")

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**TaxGuy** : Not only that, I hear that some of the posters here are _women!_ Can you believe it?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/53 "2003-11-12T16:53:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jervoise \*  
> **I don’t want a straight guy. I have no interest in the men at my gym.**

Don’t knock it 'til you’ve had some real straight-guy ass, dahling. :-\*

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/54 "2003-11-12T17:35:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\ ***TaxGuy** : Not only that, I hear that some of the posters here are _women!_ Can you believe it? \*\*

What’re they doing out of the kitchen?

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/55 "2003-11-12T18:56:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jervoise \*  
> \*\* an all-over tan, \*\*

So is nude sunbathing or other nude recreation considered a gay thing now? Or is it just that gay men tend to be perhaps less inhibited than their straight counterparts?

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/56 "2003-11-12T19:55:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Spectre of Pithecanthropus \*  
> \*\*So is nude sunbathing or other nude recreation considered a gay thing now? Or is it just that gay men tend to be perhaps less inhibited than their straight counterparts? \*\*

What price vanity?  
Not much.

A [home model tanning bed](http://www.tanningbeds4less.com/): **$1900**.

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Having all the assets to find the perfect mate in and out of the bedroom…_Priceless_.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/57 "2003-11-12T22:21:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by JohnBckWLD \*  
> A [Wahl Pubic Hair (Moustache & Beard) Trimmer](http://www.discountshavers.com/wahl3213.html): **$36.95**.

A word of caution: Do **not** use one of these devices to shave your scrotum. I had to shave my scrotum before I got a vasectomy, and I tried using my beard trimmer on it. **OUCH!** The vasectomy itself was less painful.

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**Author:** ![nisosbar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@nisosbar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nisosbar)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/58 "2003-11-13T00:49:30Z")

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Jervoise, I totally concur with everything you say in the OP (well, most of it - it’s rather long, but I suddenly found myself giggling and nodding vigorously, so I KNOW you got most of it right)…

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**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/59 "2003-11-13T01:01:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*What’re they doing out of the kitchen? \*\*

Saving the wear and tear of smoke detectors everywhere:D

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**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-am-gay-no-i-am-not-interested-in-your-straight-ass/212528/60 "2003-11-13T01:59:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by IzzyR \*  
> \*\*This is an interesting thread. Because I remember reading some gay activist guy a while back making essentially the same claim - that gays are not attracted to straight people. And as this did not make sense to me, I started a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=29267) about it, and there was pretty much a consensus that orientation makes little or no difference in terms of sexual attraction, but does make a difference in terms of likelihood of pursuing a relationship. But now I see you making what appears to be the same claim as the original guy - that you have “no interest” at all in straight men.
> 
> Is this correct? And if it is, would you agree that you are not typical in this? (In which case, your buddies are possibly undeserving of this rant, as they are likely unaware of your specific proclivities). \*\*

Fair questions. In two parts:

**Lack of interest** : I can appreciate a fine looking straight man, but there’s no desire to jump his bones. I can consider a good looking hetero objectively – “that’s nice, BUT…”

For that matter, I can appreciate a pretty woman in the same way: “mmm, that’s aesthetically pleasing, BUT…”

The “BUT” is what cuts off any potential for attraction.

To take a crude analogy, I could quite happily share a shower or spa with naked straight men without sprouting a boner. The situation would just lack the necessary plausibility required to make me sexually interested.

**Lack of desire to ogle** : put this down lack of interest, plus respect for others. I respect my straight friends’ sensibilities and I know they wouldn’t want me looking. I don’t really want to anyway, so it’s easy not to.

(On that note, even I don’t like gay men openly looking at me while I’m changing–it’s just inappropriate in the setting.)

Are my buddies undeserving of my rant? Well, yeah. I know it must be tough on them. That’s why I tried to keep it light-hearted; I hold no real rancour towards them for being skittish around me. I find the situation pretty funny, actually–it’s good to be able to laugh about the 21st century silliness of it all, rather than get all self-righteous and angry.

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