# Yes I DO know what am doing, I know how it's MEANT to be, but I prefer it like this. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615 "2010-03-24T13:16:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/141 "2010-03-27T02:43:35Z")
I have an occasional British ale. I drink it cold. Refrigerated. Who won the bloody Revolutionary War, anyway? 😃 > [@StusBlues](#): > > [Cecil has written on this](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/679/why-is-there-no-ketchup-on-a-properly-made-hot-dog). I see his point, but, as even he says, it’s really nothing to disrupt your bodily functions about. How could you not quote some vintage Cecil snark? > [@](#): > > Ketchup smothers the flavor of the hot dog because ketchup makers add sugar to their products. That takes the edge off the highly acidic tomatoes, but it takes the edge off everything else, too. 
 > > If you go into an authentic hot dog joint and ask for ketchup on your hot dog, the counterman will pause and look you in the eye. He may or may not say, “Ketchup?” with a tone of disbelief. But you may be certain what he’s thinking: “Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants _ketchup_ on its _hot dog_.” > > But hey, if you want ketchup, by all means get it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/142 "2010-03-27T02:49:14Z")
> [@goodie](#): > > I know that you can eat tuna raw out of the can, I do in tuna salad, but I boil mine when putting it in casseroles. It just seems wrong to add uncooked meat or fish to a hot dish. Yawhatnow? Canned tuna isn’t raw. It’s been cooked to death. All you’re doing is reheating it. I can’t think of any canned food that is raw. ---
**Author:** ![FalconFinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@FalconFinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FalconFinder)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/143 "2010-03-27T03:24:47Z")
Thought of another thing: I don’t like fat in or surrounding my meat. I don’t care if it’s “marbling”, it’s fat and it’s gross. My meat must be very very lean. I can barely tolerate the fat on bacon and even then, I’ll trim off quite a bit so I am not eating greasy, fatty goo. Yuk! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/144 "2010-03-27T03:49:27Z")
Miracle Whip tastes better than mayonnaise. I know mayo is the Original Stuff that’s been untainted, but Miracle Whip is tangy and actually has some flavour, unlike mayo which tastes like white fat. I don’t think I’ve ever met a condiment that I _wouldn’t_ put on a hot dog - hot dogs are basically condiment-conveyance vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/145 "2010-03-27T13:05:49Z")
I eat my hamburgers with cream cheese, mustard, and onion when I have access to the cream cheese. I CAN eat it other ways when cream cheese is not available or offered, but when I make them at my home
cream cheese. ---
**Author:** ![pope\_hentai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@pope\_hentai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pope_hentai)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/146 "2010-03-27T14:45:52Z")
my friends all wind up appalled watching me dress my hotdog. Kraut, chili, dill relish, ketchup, mustard, carmelized onions and preferably onion rings if i got em. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/147 "2010-03-27T15:00:20Z")
Glad to see so many of us understand that runny eggs are poison. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/148 "2010-03-27T15:21:00Z")
I’ve discovered that the magic words for not getting them runny in a cafĂ© are “over hard.” They come to me perfect every time that way. ---
**Author:** ![goodie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@goodie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goodie)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/149 "2010-03-27T16:10:20Z")
The tuna is a different color after I boil it. THAT’S how I KNOW it’s cooked all the way. I KNOW that it’s wrong and unnecessary, that’s why I’m posting it on this thread. It’s the way I like it and the way that I feel comfortable serving it to my family. FULLY cooked. Yes, there are those in my life who won’t eat meats and fish that I prepare, but by God, if they did eat them, they’d be safe. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/150 "2010-03-27T16:17:49Z")
Nobody’s telling you you can’t boil them to get them the way you like. But you’re asserting as a matter of fact that they’re not “fully cooked” when, yes, they actually are, no matter how many capital letters you throw around. Canned foods are “fully cooked.” That’s how canning works. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/151 "2010-03-27T17:05:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Cecil: Ketchup smothers the flavor of the hot dog because ketchup makers add sugar to their products. That takes the edge off the highly acidic tomatoes, but it takes the edge off everything else, too. 
 > > If you go into an authentic hot dog joint and ask for ketchup on your hot dog, the counterman will pause and look you in the eye. He may or may not say, “Ketchup?” with a tone of disbelief. But you may be certain what he’s thinking: “Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.” > > But hey, if you want ketchup, by all means get it. I recall seeing something on TV about a famous hotdog place that won’t even serve ketchup at their counter. If you ask for it, they’re rude to you. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/152 "2010-03-27T17:06:48Z")
I have no problem with ketchup on hot dogs. Sometimes I’ll have it, sometimes I won’t. However, I do admire the passion and dedication to Chicago’s no-ketchup purists. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/153 "2010-03-27T17:48:25Z")
I’ve heard rumors that Pinks in LA won’t give you catsup aka ketchup but it’s not true. However, the counterman will mock you if you don’t have chili. Ask me how I know. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/154 "2010-03-27T19:49:12Z")
That’s nothing; Wrigley Field in Chicago won’t serve beer to Canadians. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/155 "2010-03-27T20:27:39Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’m one of those who will mix fish and seafood in a pasta dish. 😕 > [@StusBlues](#): > > Man, I chill PORT wine. And drink it WITH dinner. Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! > [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Of course, pretty much any “silver/white” alcohol has to be chilled. Because it’s just vile otherwise. (Even chilled it’s usually vile.) Not true with tequilas. There are some very nice aged silver tequilas. The only difference between them and most reposados is that the silver tequilas are aged in glass or metal tanks instead of oak. And some of those cheap reposados are aged in metal anyway – they just toss some oak chips in with them for tannins. > [@Staver808](#): > > Really? Was that whole article by Cecil silver tounged in cheek? Come on, ruins the complex flavors? It’s a freakin hotdog. The whole point is that the ketchup can mask the rat hairs and rodent parts. That’s what makes hot dogs “complex.” 😉 When I put REAL mustard on a hot dog (a nice brown spicy mustard with some texture to it), and some jalapeño relish, it’s doing a lot more flavor masking than the ketchup would. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/156 "2010-03-27T20:28:03Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I’ve heard rumors that Pinks in LA won’t give you catsup aka ketchup but it’s not true. However, the counterman will mock you if you don’t have chili. Ask me how I know. Persons who willingly eat hot dogs without chili do not deserve to be mocked, or even beaten. The offense itself is its own punishment. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/157 "2010-03-27T20:59:52Z")
[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:155, topic:533615”] 😕 [/QUOTE] :smack: “Cheese and seafood” not “fish and seafood.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/158 "2010-03-27T21:03:56Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I recall seeing something on TV about a famous hotdog place that won’t even serve ketchup at their counter. If you ask for it, they’re rude to you. Some of the old school places here in Chicago claim they will not put ketchup on the hot dog, and will make the customer defile it himself. I say “claim” because I’ve never had reason to test it. [Here’s on of Royko’s classic columns on it.](http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-08-04/news/1993216204_1_hot-dogs-ketchup-chicago-dog) > [@](#): > > Maurie Berman owns Superdawg, where I’ve been eating classic hot dogs for about 40 years. > > Since 1948, he has made millions of hot dogs the way nature intended: your choice of yellow mustard, relish, onions, tomato, peppers and – the subtle secret of a great Chicago dog – a dash of celery salt. > > “But now,” he says, "I see more and more desecrations of the Chicago hot dog. Yes, we provide ketchup, but we have the customer defile it himself. > > "We say, ‘Sir, the ketchup bottle is on the side. We’ll ask you to squirt that yourself.’ And regarding the chili dog: > [@](#): > > “Worse than ketchup is this cheese dog. Sacrilege. I used to turn down requests for cheese dogs, but now I have to succumb. But no chili dogs. Ain’t gonna do it. Never. No way.” ---
**Author:** ![Cassio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@Cassio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cassio)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/159 "2010-03-27T23:49:46Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > On hot days when I actually drink milk, I put ice cubes in it. What’s that you say? It dilutes the taste? That happens with every drink with ice cubes then, your reasoning is flawed if you only exclude milk. EVERY cold drink needs ice cubes, no exceptions Um, chill your drink in the fridge? Then you get it cold and undiluted. Unless you like the slightly diluted taste of milk on the rocks, then go ahead. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615/160 "2010-03-28T01:24:35Z")
Here in the South we have the almighty slaw dog. Something tells me that would lead some of those hotdog purists to faint dead away. God, now I want a slaw dog. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-do-know-what-am-doing-i-know-how-its-meant-to-be-but-i-prefer-it-like-this/533615.md?page=9)