# Yes, I know we've done the Pat Buchanan is a fucking racist thing before. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601 "2009-10-21T13:59:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/21 "2009-10-21T17:44:58Z")
> [@](#): > > His autobiography is set in Washington D.C. in the pre-civil rights era Is this the book in which he gloats about assulting a police officer? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/22 "2009-10-21T18:04:54Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > He’s taken it one step further since then. Rooting for the poor, oppressed White majority to get ready with their guns. If I saw that bigoted bastard walking down the street, I’d be another minority statistic sitting in a jail cell because I don’t know if I could restrain myself from cockpunching the assclown. > > I mean, it’s not like I’m white and good and real or anything. He’d be expecting that, right? Didn’t see a thing. I don’t know nothin’. He just fell down - a lot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/23 "2009-10-21T18:28:26Z")
Pat’s genteel expression of racism (hey, he didn’t say the n word or anything) is getting tiresome. As a very white guy I am much happier at the racial prospects for this country’s future. There are few things much more annoying than some right winger white guy complaining about how he or some relative couldn’t get a job due to affirmative action and unions. There are plenty of minimum wage jobs out there and you can offer to work for less pay than others at these skilled jobs as long as it isn’t less than minimum wage. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/24 "2009-10-21T18:29:32Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I think y’all have missed the point of this game. If we played by your rules we’d just need to attach an IV. The point is to pick a commonly held buzzword or two so that you drink regularly but not so common that you cannot take a breath. Maybe the rules should be reversed. If you find a sentence that _doesn’t_ use one of the buzzwords, take a drink. Nah, who wants to stay sober during a drinking game? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/25 "2009-10-21T19:02:20Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Maybe the rules should be reversed. If you find a sentence that _doesn’t_ use one of the buzzwords, take a drink. > > Nah, who wants to stay sober during a drinking game? Hard to play the game if you get smashed within the first two minutes though. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/26 "2009-10-21T19:03:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Neither they nor their kids ever benefited from affirmative action, unlike Barack and Michelle Obama. I can’t tell if he’s excluded white women from his analysis of Traditional American angst, or if he’s under the impression that Affirmative Action is a negroid thing. But regardless of how you slice this piece of fruitcake, you get a bunch of nuts. Gotta say that MSNBC has a lot of nerve handing this fool a mic everyday and treating him as though he’s source of reason rather than the reptile that he is. If he has to be on TV, why can’t he be on FOX news where all the rest of his paranoid klansmen congregate? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/27 "2009-10-21T19:03:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The Oath Keepers are funny. > > I almost hope the government _does_ try some of that stuff, just so we can laugh at the oath keepers when they band together to express their outrage by blogging about it. I’d agree that officials should refuse to obey many of those orders. It’s a shame they haven’t in the past and that it is only with a Democrat, supposedly liberal administration that people think such an oath is necessary. Some are just poorly thought out, though. > [@](#): > > 1. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people I’d bet the majority of legitimate searches are warrantless, whether done with the consent of the searched, or otherwise legal searches such as those under a _Terry_ stop. Are the Oath Keepers saying that cops should refuse to perform _Terry_ stops? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/28 "2009-10-21T19:20:51Z")
> [@villa](#): > > I’d agree that officials should refuse to obey many of those orders. It’s a shame they haven’t in the past and that it is only with a Democrat, supposedly liberal administration that people think such an oath is necessary. So would I. I just find it telling that they didn’t bother to do so during the Bush Administration, when some of the things they refuse to participate in were, you know, actually happening. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/29 "2009-10-21T19:21:49Z")
Wait a second here. Maybe y’all can help me with something here. There’s this quote: > [@Pat Buchanon](#): > > They watch on cable TV as illegal aliens walk into their country, are rewarded with free educations and health care and take jobs at lower pay than American families can live on – then carry Mexican flags in American cities and demand U.S. citizenship. > > They see Wall Street banks bailed out as they sweat their next paycheck, then read that bank profits are soaring, and the big bonuses for the brilliant bankers are back. _\_ > > America was once their country. They sense they are losing it. And they are right. Um, did Pat just blame undeserved Wall Street bonuses on illegal immigrants? 'cause you got to admit that leap is pretty fucking impressive. It’s the “Evel Kneivel jumps the Snake River Canyon” of right wing punditry. And Pat wasn’t even wearing a helmet. I think I’m actually impressed. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/30 "2009-10-21T19:28:48Z")
> [@villa](#): > > I’d bet the majority of legitimate searches are warrantless, whether done with the consent of the searched, or otherwise legal searches such as those under a _Terry_ stop. Are the Oath Keepers saying that cops should refuse to perform _Terry_ stops? Man, get it through your head. These people are dumber than shit. If you told them that Obama was going to force everyone to get gay married and that he would send members of the death panels into your bedroom to make sure you and your partner are really buttfucking eachother and not just faking it, I’m sure they would believe that as well. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/31 "2009-10-21T19:29:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > So would I. I just find it telling that they didn’t bother to do so during the Bush Administration, when some of the things they refuse to participate in were, you know, actually happening. Exactly my point. Though it wasn’t just the Bush Administration - Dems weren’t immune (Katrina and disarming populations springing to mind…). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/32 "2009-10-21T19:50:12Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Wait a second here. Maybe y’all can help me with something here. There’s this quote:Um, did Pat just blame undeserved Wall Street bonuses on illegal immigrants? 'cause you got to admit that leap is pretty fucking impressive. It’s the “Evel Kneivel jumps the Snake River Canyon” of right wing punditry. And Pat wasn’t even wearing a helmet. I think I’m actually impressed. A helmet’s primary function is to prevent brain trauma. Let’s not assume facts not in evidence wrt whatever Mr. Buchanan might be able to protect with a helmet. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/33 "2009-10-21T20:10:45Z")
I thought Buchanan’s inclination toward racism was pretty clearly delineated by his frequent appearances on the [Political Cesspool](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool) show. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/34 "2009-10-21T21:26:08Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [But that fucker keeps pissing me off.](http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=113463#) > > The last sentence is really cool. Take a look: > > I’m sorry Real Americans[sup]TM[/sup], I’ll try not to usurp your power too stridently with my brown skin of awesomeness. Please don’t shoot me down in the street. I prefer these: > [@](#): > > Yet, they cannot comprehend what would motivate Middle America to distrust its government, for it surely does, as Ron Brownstein reports in the National Journal: > > “Whites are not only more anxious, but also more alienated. Big majorities of whites say the past year’s turmoil has diminished their confidence in government, corporations and the financial industry. … Asked which institution they trust most to make economic decisions in their interest, a plurality of whites older than 30 pick ‘none’ – a grim statement.” > > \ > > Moreover, the alienation and radicalization of white America began long before Obama arrived. He acknowledged as much when he explained Middle Pennsylvanians to puzzled progressives in that closed-door meeting in San Francisco. Note how smoothly, and without even saying it expressly, he equates “Middle America” to “white America” – **and at the same time distinguishes it from “progressives,”** most of whom, in fact, **look** white, but I guess that’s only skin-deep. (Or maybe it’s that so many “progressives” are Jews, who are **technically** white, but . . .) Yet, just a bit later: > [@](#): > > In their lifetimes, they have seen their Christian faith purged from schools their taxes paid for, and mocked in movies and on TV. What religion are most nonwhite Americans, Pat? Hint: It ain’t Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/35 "2009-10-21T21:38:52Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > … (Or maybe it’s that so many “progressives” are Jews, who are **technically** white, but . . .) … No, it’s worse than that: some of those progressives are atheists. Or even worse again: some are Jewish atheists. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/36 "2009-10-21T22:21:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I thought Buchanan’s inclination toward racism was pretty clearly delineated by his frequent appearances on the [Political Cesspool](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool) show. What an unintentionally perfect name . . . ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/37 "2009-10-22T00:10:27Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > His autobiography is set in Washington D.C. in the pre-civil rights era. It just drips with sentiment about how the happy darkies didn’t want rights at all nosiree bob and women were just happy to be in the kitchen all day cooking up good meals for the menfolk. So, Pat Buchanan is **Starving Artist**? :eek: Has anyone ever seen them together? I rest my case. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/38 "2009-10-22T00:19:08Z")
Dear God don’t drag him in here. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/39 "2009-10-22T00:22:10Z")
The day the “Oath Takers” have anything positive to contribute to the national political discourse, I’ll go over to Pat Buchanan’s house and personally fellate him while humming Dixie. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601/40 "2009-10-22T03:47:03Z")
Not a big fan of the Patster myself, but the column doesn’t seem racist to me. Has the meaning of the word “racist” changed to mean “hates and blames liberals” without anybody telling me? Cuz recently I’ve come to think maybe it has. We have race issues in this country, and have had them for a while. Assuming that all parties agree that everyone should be treated equally, does disagreement concerning how we go about attaining that goal constitute racism? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-i-know-weve-done-the-pat-buchanan-is-a-fucking-racist-thing-before/514601.md?page=3)