# Yes, I'm back. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 14, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410 "2005-03-14T04:15:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/61 "2005-03-14T22:28:22Z")
> [@WeRSauron](#): > > But . . . but . . . pontificating is so _cool_! > > WRS - His Holiness Sauron I Pontifex Maximus Well, give me a ring sometime and we can discuss it! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/62 "2005-03-14T22:40:27Z")
Heeey Tuba. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/63 "2005-03-14T23:04:58Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > I donā€™t agree with you. But for reasons I think youā€™ll honor. Youā€™re right, I do honor your reasons, and I respect your opinion. Butā€¦ > [@](#): > > First, the key point behind what happened was a perceived breach of confidentiality. For her to discuss her motivations, then or now, would simply aggravate the above breach. I agree that it would be difficult (to the point of tippy-toeing) to get into much here. I guess I should have been clearer: Often times folks say ā€œI regretā€¦ā€ without actually saying why it is they ā€œregretā€ it or expressing remorse for their actions. (Do they regret being caught? Do they regret the ensuing shitstorm? Or do they regret acting badly?) Without clarification that, to me, is either a way around actually taking responsiblity for their screw ups or being too proud to face the music. It would be so simple for her to say something along the lines of, ā€œI regret my actions and take full responsibility for my poor judgment. I am very sorry for that. Rest assured, it wonā€™t happen again.ā€ > [@](#): > > Second, it should be obvious to anyone who has been here more than a few months (and Iā€™m explicitly excluding folks who checked in and became familiar with the SDMB as this whole incident was brewing, for what I think are obvious reasons) that the SDMB is important and dear to Jenny. To have endangered its continued existence, even for what she may have thought the best of motivations, must be a severe burden on her. I agree. But until I know what sheā€™s feeling ā€“ by her words, not by my or your assumptions ā€“ I canā€™t see whether she really understands the seriousness of her actions. You clearly know her much better than I, so youā€™re giving her the benefit of the doubt. Iā€™m not. Frankly, considering how many people around here have been sticking up for her ā€“ people whoā€™s opinions I respect, like yours ā€“ I was quite surprised at the manner in which she has handled her mea culpa. For some reason, IMHO, mods around here are terrible at this sort of thing ā€“ standing up, apologizing and taking responsibility for their actions. Itā€™s like they think theyā€™ll lose face or something. Which to me is foolish, cause they lose more when they donā€™t. > [@](#): > > And finally, it is precisely the sort of vigilante justice being bandied ain posts regarding Jenny that elicited the original problem. We are not members of a democratically chosen board here; we are the paying guests of the Chicago Reader, Inc., which sets the rules for the establishment. We can choose to abide by their decisions or go elsewhere. In a combination of justice and mercy, they decided a monthā€™s suspension was the appropriate call. Jenny has served that and is now back on duty. To suggest that she needs to be permanently on a Confidentiality Breachers Registry or something of the sort is deeply ironic to me, given the circumstances. I wonā€™t dispute that ā€“ but again, what Iā€™m trying to say is that it appears little responsibility has been taken, and little remorse shown. Until that happens Iā€™m afraid a lot of respect and credibility will be gone. Which is a damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/64 "2005-03-14T23:10:07Z")
Welcome back, **TD**. ---
**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/65 "2005-03-14T23:30:15Z")
What will be the response to the threads started after every post **TubaDiva** makes from now on pointing out how her actions show that she continues to be unfit as an admin or mod? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/66 "2005-03-14T23:38:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, give me a ring sometime and we can discuss it! It isnā€™t the ring, itā€™s the chair. ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/67 "2005-03-14T23:54:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > It isnā€™t the ring, itā€™s the chair. _Sancta Sedes_! WRS - S PP. I P.M. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/68 "2005-03-15T00:00:09Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Samuel Johnson may or may not have said it first, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions. > > Having had some time to reconsider the path I walked a little over a month ago, I can clearly see my intentions took me where I did not intend to go. Sigh. Another apology for the results, but not the actions. Sad really. Just one more negative in the ā€œdonā€™t renewā€ column. ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/69 "2005-03-15T00:19:27Z")
Good to see you back. This canā€™t be easy for you, and I appreciate your courage in being willing to face it. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/70 "2005-03-15T00:22:18Z")
Hey Tuba, Iā€™m really glad that you are back on the Boards and continuing as an Administrator. You have my respect for your past efforts, and my confidence for the future. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/71 "2005-03-15T00:32:47Z")
What she said! Sometimes decisions you make or things you say that you think are right turn out in retrospect to have been wrong, and you have to take your lumps. You did, quite graciously. Iā€™ll be happy to ā€˜seeā€™ you around again, Jenny. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/72 "2005-03-15T01:19:20Z")
> [@Brynda](#): > > I appreciate your courage in being willing to face it. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/73 "2005-03-15T01:48:20Z")
I actually meant facing people like you who canā€™t forgive and forget, but I also refer you to the OPā€“ā€œI deeply regret my intemperate actions.ā€ Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/74 "2005-03-15T01:52:26Z")
> [@Brynda](#): > > I actually meant facing people like you who canā€™t forgive and forget, but I also refer you to the OPā€“ā€œI deeply regret my intemperate actions.ā€ > > Sheesh. Itā€™s not about ā€œforgive and forgetā€, but the fact that trust, once broken, is not something thatā€™s easy to repair. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/75 "2005-03-15T01:57:10Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > It isnā€™t the ring, itā€™s the chair. For John Paul, yeah, the chair is the big deal. But I was talking to **WeRSauron** , and you **know** where **his** authority rests! šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/76 "2005-03-15T01:58:16Z")
Whereā€™s my lousy T-shirt? Welcome home! ---
**Author:** ![peri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@peri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peri)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/77 "2005-03-15T02:16:26Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > And finally, it is precisely the sort of vigilante justice being bandied about in posts regarding Jenny that elicited the original problem. Yes, TubaDivaā€™s attempts at inciting vigilante justice. ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/78 "2005-03-15T02:33:27Z")
Welcome Back, Tuba. I was fortunate to not have been in the middle of the initial shitstorm and only read the subsequent threads. Iā€™m afraid there are some that will simply not be satisfied unless your head was delivered to them personally on a silver platter. I can only say ā€œThank Youā€ for your years of exemplary service to the SDMB and may you have many more! ---
**Author:** ![Oat1957](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Oat1957](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oat1957)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/79 "2005-03-15T02:54:27Z")
Welcome back!! ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410/80 "2005-03-15T03:20:56Z")
Though some folks itch From knickers fulla starch Others chafe while hiding on the porch The **TubaDiva** returns Just in time for The Ides of March. Long live a tolerant SDMB. Cartooniverse, whoā€™s known The **Diva** since the AOL days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-back/294410.md?page=5)