# Yes, I'm \*sure\* I don't want kids, you moron... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2001, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509 "2001-02-07T15:45:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/21 "2001-02-07T20:27:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by essvee \* > \*\*what the fuck do you know about it, falcon? you are an only child. altho it sounds like your parents didnt have another kid cuz they were afraid youd smother it or something… \*\* And how would you know the pleasures of being an only child, dingleberry? There’s plusses and minuses, you chuzzlewit, but shades of gray seem to be past your comprehension. I pity you AND your childhood, at least as much of it as you have described. Remaining a happy only child, ---
**Author:** ![caircair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@caircair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caircair)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/22 "2001-02-07T20:29:52Z")
BRAVO, Jadis! Stick to your guns! When I hit the age of 30, with no SO in sight, I also decided it was time to give up the idea of being a mother. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve NEVER NEVER NEVER regretted that decision. I no longer have the patience for children – while I love my nieces and nephews to death, I also get tired of their company after a few hours and it’s a blessing to say “Go find Mommy”. Luckily for me, when I married last year, my husband also felt as I did. He has various health problems (epilepsy, Charcot-Marie-Tooth Syndrome) all of which are genetic, so he felt he could not pass those “challenges” on to a child of his own. As to adoption, we’re both too wrapped up in each other right now to add someone else to our lives; I doubt we’ll EVER want a child (whether biologically or not) for the simple reason we’re getting older and don’t have a lot of stamina. HECK, at this point we’re not even ready to adopt a cat! (But maybe a few years down the road. . . .) ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/23 "2001-02-07T20:29:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BunnyGirl \* > \*\ ***Jadis** , your insurance company sucks! > > Have you checked with Planned Parenthood or whatever in your area? \*\* As far as my insurance sucking the big one…yes, I agree. The thing that **really** sucks, which I don’t think that I made clear in my OP, is that my company has just changed my insurance as of 1/1/01, and the **old** plan that they abandoned **did** cover my Depo Provera shot, and may have covered IUD’s a well. My company laid off almost half of its employees in mid-December. This change to the new, crappy health plan is simply an effort to cheapen our benefits in another attempt to pinch pennies. We were **all** pissed off when we learned of the change, but short of getting a new job (which I’m trying to do anyway), there’s nothing we can do. I’ve gone the Planned Parenthood route before. Although it’s certainly more affordable, I’d prefer not to have to do it again. The people were always polite, but cold…and much more used to dealing with young kids and poor college students than an educated adult. Regardless of how nice they were, there was always a tinge of patronizing going on, as if I wouldn’t be there if I didn’t need hand-holding. It just sucks that if I want to get off hormonal BC, I’m going to have to use my tax refund to buy an IUD. \ ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/24 "2001-02-07T20:32:56Z")
oh shit, i forgot to mention: this just in! recent research proves that only children, on average, are 20% stupider, more aggressive, and liable to willfully misinterpret other’s posts than folks with siblings. ---
**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/25 "2001-02-07T20:33:37Z")
**essvee** , you’re an idiot. Just so you know. I’m not an only child, and I value the relationships that I have will all of my siblings, but to say that, by keeping a child as an only one, that you are doing “damage” to him or her…well, even though this is the Pit, I want a cite for that. So, put up or shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/26 "2001-02-07T20:37:31Z")
necros, just read my post again, huh? and call one of your brothers or sisters to help you pull your head outta your ass, while yer at it. ---
**Author:** ![caircair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@caircair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caircair)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/27 "2001-02-07T20:38:30Z")
Jadis, I just read your last post, and suggest you try Planned Parenthood again. I went to ours a few years back to check out various birth control options, and was told if you apply early enough, they MAY just cover the cost of the operation you want. Ours in Seattle has a fund they use for this purpose – I think it’s for allowing two women to have the surgery. It’s worth calling Planned Parenthood and checking it out. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/28 "2001-02-07T20:38:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by essvee \* > \*\*what the fuck do you know about it, falcon? you are an only child. altho it sounds like your parents didnt have another kid cuz they were afraid youd smother it or something… \*\* Oh, fer God’s sake- who moved the rock??? ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/29 "2001-02-07T21:01:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by essvee \* > \*\* have you ever considered that by keeping your child an only child, you are depriving him/her of a relationship, an emotional connection, that he or she will never achieve, unless you grant s/he a sibling? \*\* Yes, I have considered this. We’re also “depriving” him of potential help and support when it comes time to take care of me and Mr. Cranky as old codgers. On the other hand, if we chose to have more children, we’d also be depriving him of some things–and I’m not just talking about having less money to spend on him. It’s a tradeoff, one that all parents have to deal with whatever their decision. With siblings come problems as well as joys. No siblings also mean problems as well as joys, \* just different ones\*. Which of the drawbacks/benefits weigh more depend on the person. Obviously, we weigh these things differently than you do, and than our good friends who are having more than one. I don’t think our decision is better than theirs–it’s just more fitting for our family given our desires, values, beliefs, and parenting style. Trust me, it isn’t the kind of thing we’d take lightly. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/30 "2001-02-07T21:10:53Z")
Well, **esvee** , you already disproved the “stupider” part. :rolleyes: Anyway, my parents didn’t have another kid because I’d smother it? Oh please…I was a VERY quiet child. Almost never cried, according to my mother. Spent most of my time reading as a child. Yeah, I was REAL agressive. Whatever. I was a very happy only child. I know several OTHER very happy only children. So, as someone already asked - cite, please. Put up, or SHUT THE FUCK UP. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/31 "2001-02-07T21:15:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by essvee \* > \*\*necros, just read my post again, huh? and call one of your brothers or sisters to help you pull your head outta your ass, while yer at it. \*\* Since this is **my** party, and I’ll cuss if I want to…essvee, **SHUT THE FUCK UP!!** Not only are you not winning any points here, your hopeless blathering about how many children anyone **should** have is exactly that kind of snot-nosed intrustion I was ranting about in my OP. Pardon my French, but **butt the fuck out** of other people’s reproductive decisions and keep your proselytizing to yourself. Jeesh. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![eirroc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@eirroc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eirroc)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/32 "2001-02-07T21:20:42Z")
crankyasanoldman, I applaude your calm well reasoned post to essvee. When I saw what s/he had posted, I was boiling, but decided not to post back because it was meant for you. I’m glad I didnt because I certainly wouldent have been as calm as you. But I have to add, essvee, I thought you were an arsehole when you posted your first post, but looking at subsequent posts I realise I was wrong, YOUR A FUCKING ARSEHOLE! ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/33 "2001-02-07T21:21:40Z")
> [@](#): > > recent research proves Proves? Let’s see this proof. Post a cite or shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/34 "2001-02-07T21:25:57Z")
**essvee** , whatever point you think you’re making, please be assured, you are in fact demonstrating the opposite. By the way, “research just in!” doesn’t qualify as a cite. See, this is how it works. > [@](#): > > Research now proves that Internet users who think they’re clever by choosing a screen name composed of spelled-out initials are 28% more likely to die with their head stuck in a food processor while a pre-pubescent Sun Bear chews off their butt cheeks. It ain’t a cite unless you include the source, bozo. ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/35 "2001-02-07T21:31:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eirroc \* > \*\*crankyasanoldman, I applaude your calm well reasoned post to essvee. \*\* I suspect I’m in serious risk of having my username taken away because I don’t live up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/36 "2001-02-07T21:31:55Z")
Does anyone else find it ironic that someone who writes things such as “_outta, yer, wuz, cuz, kay, ive_” and has no comprehension of sentence structure or proper puctuation, not to mention grammar, has the gonads to imply others are stupid? What a dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/37 "2001-02-07T21:49:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jadis \* > I’ve gone the Planned Parenthood route before. Although it’s certainly more affordable, I’d prefer not to have to do it again. The people were always polite, but cold…and much more used to dealing with young kids and poor college students than an educated adult. Regardless of how nice they were, there was always a tinge of patronizing going on, as if I wouldn’t be there if I didn’t need hand-holding. Wacky. My experience with Planned Parenthood has been totally different. I go to PP even though I now have insurance and could go to a full-on gynecologist exactly because they are warm and friendly and not condescending. I guess it’s partly a matter of who’s staffing your local clinic. ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/38 "2001-02-07T22:50:30Z")
crankyasanoldman, thanks for your calm and well-reasoned response. the rest of yiz: perhaps crankyasanoldman responded in a calm and well-reasoned fashion because i merely asked him a question, with no criticism implied. i even used the word respectfully. sheesh! note to myself: next time i think about posting anything even resembling a personal opinion, try to remember the vast hordes of inflammatory morons just waiting to pounce. note to jadis: sorry for hijacking. note to diane: criticizing others’ grammar, spelling, and punctuation is the last refuge of a very small mind. note to falcon: ya know, you should rethink yer position. you really shoulda been twins, cuz the best part of you ran down yer momma’s leg, you inconsequential pissant. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/39 "2001-02-07T22:57:02Z")
> [@](#): > > note to diane: criticizing others’ grammar, spelling, and punctuation is the last refuge of a very small mind Note to Gimpy - You shouldn’t accuse people of stupidity using misspelled one syllable words. Git et, u dum dum? ---
**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509/40 "2001-02-07T23:15:36Z")
essvee: And I’m sure criticizing someone because they have no siblings isn’t the refuge of a very small mind? :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-im-sure-i-dont-want-kids-you-moron/53509.md?page=3)