# Yes, it's another Palin thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 7, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501 "2008-09-07T17:06:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/21 "2008-09-09T13:08:52Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> There will come a time when she has to face the music.

Of course. So will Bush, someday.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/22 "2008-09-09T14:13:01Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> So you’re happy at the prospect of a person being a step away from the presidency who wants creationism taught in schools (despite SCOTUS rulings saying it may not be), who opposes equal rights on the basis of sexual orientation (vetoing a restriction of partner benefits only under threat of court order), who believes in keeping children ignorant about sex and sexuality, who lied in her acceptance speech about, among other things, opposing the “Bridge to Nowhere” (when she actually supported it), opposing earmarks (when she secured $720 million of them for Alaska in two years, including the BTN money which she didn’t return, just spent on other things), opposing Ted Stevens despite heading up a 527 in his name, who is in favor of banning books, who believes rape victims should be forced to carry to term, who is under investigation for alleged criminal abuse of power and trying to move the investigation to the jurisdiction of a board whose members are answerable to her as the governor, who bankrupted the town of which she was mayor, thinks Alaskan secession is an idea worth exploring and whose pastor wants to convert homosexuals with prayer and who believes that Alaska is a pre-destined Christian refuge for the end times?

Of course \*\*Friar Ted \*\*is happy about all those things. How long have you been a member here **Otto**? Those things all scream **Friar Ted.**

And don’t forget, **Otto** , she’s a Christian. Therefore, everything she does is ordained by god and therefore goodness and truth and light.

> [@](#):
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> You’re completely fucked up and stupid.

So of course he’s going to crow about the possibility of getting someone just as fucked up and just as stupid in the second highest office in the land. His chances of using the government to enforce his view of the bible is getting closer by the day.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/23 "2008-09-09T14:42:06Z")

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> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#):
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> Of course \*\*Friar Ted \*\*is happy about all those things. How long have you been a member here **Otto**? Those things all scream **Friar Ted.**
> 
> And don’t forget, **Otto** , she’s a Christian. Therefore, everything she does is ordained by god and therefore goodness and truth and light.  
> So of course he’s going to crow about the possibility of getting someone just as fucked up and just as stupid in the second highest office in the land. His chances of using the government to enforce his view of the bible is getting closer by the day.

Plus, she pisses off so many of the fine folks here that the meltdown if/when McCain-Palin gets elected will be a glory to behold.

Oh yeah, and she’s also hot & she obviously likes to do it. Though Jason Mewes would have put it more crudely, that still gives her a lot of leeway.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/24 "2008-09-09T14:43:52Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Plus, she pisses off so many of the fine folks here that the meltdown if/when McCain-Palin gets elected will be a glory to behold.

And how old are you? Eight?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/25 "2008-09-09T14:56:48Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> And how old are you? Eight?

Old enough to vote for President thusly-

Reagan  
Reagan  
Dad Bush  
Dad Bush  
Dole  
W  
W  
and in two months McCain  
and in four & then eight years  
Palin  
Palin  
and in twelve years  
Chelsea Clinton (she’ll have joined us by then, you see).

😃

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/26 "2008-09-09T15:06:58Z")

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ok the Chelsea thing is funny.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/27 "2008-09-09T15:08:39Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Old enough to vote for President thusly-
> 
> Reagan  
> Reagan  
> Dad Bush  
> Dad Bush  
> Dole  
> W  
> W  
> and in two months McCain  
> and in four & then eight years  
> Palin  
> Palin  
> and in twelve years  
> Chelsea Clinton (she’ll have joined us by then, you see).
> 
> 😃

Way to miss the point. At any rate, not that I care how you vote, but stating the tantrums of your opposition as a reason to vote whatever way you’re voting is stupid.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/28 "2008-09-09T15:12:12Z")

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> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#):
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> How long have you been a member here **Otto**?

Apparently not long enough to realize that Friar Toad is this much of a wingnut. He never struck me as being the fanatical type before. Maybe I’m just hanging out in the wrong threads.

> [@Hawkins](#):
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> What I don’t understand is the fear. You guys sound like she’s already in the White House waiting for McCain to choke on a pretzel.

The notion of a creature that loathsome assuming the presidency, a very real possibility given McCain’s age and health issues, should terrify everyone who isn’t a Flavor-Aid drinking moron. I don’t believe that McCain will survive a four-year term, should he be elected. If the thought of Sarah Palin’s being the most powerful person on the face of the Earth doesn’t scare the shit out of you, it ought to.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/29 "2008-09-09T15:23:21Z")

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
O h yeah, and she’s also hot & she obviously likes to do it  
[/QUOTE]

So, the new standard of qualification for female candidates is the appearance that they like to have sex?  
By their works, ye shall know them. And now we know a bit more about you, " **Friar" Ted.**

Nice Christian morals there, teddy boy.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/30 "2008-09-09T15:29:54Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> So, the new standard of qualification for female candidates is the appearance that they like to have sex?  
> By their works, ye shall know them. And now we know a bit more about you, " **Friar" Ted.**
> 
> Nice Christian morals there, teddy boy.

Gee, you used to have a sense of humor, eleanor-gee-I-think-you’re-swelleanor.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/31 "2008-09-09T15:43:04Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The front page of the local rag had a lengthy article that is an eye-opener about Palin’s religious affiliations. [Here.](http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518514.html) You may need to do a free registration to read it. Apparently, we’re a “refuge” state for the apocolypse and hundreds of thousands of Christians will be coming here for salvation. This broad is a whack job, friends and neighbors. It’s no wonder the RNC won’t allow the press to get anywhere hear her.

Keep telling yourself that. And be heartened when the chorus of SDMB voices agrees with you.

Never mind the polls.

Pay no attention to the polls. Listen to the voices of those that already agree with you. Follow these steps:

1. She’s a nutjob.
2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
3. They’re all crazy too.
4. The End.

Or – and work with me a minute, 'cause this is a whacky thought – perhaps you should reason thusly:

1. She’s a nutjob.
2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
3. They’re all crazy too.
4. But since they all vote, perhaps I should consider that some of these positions are not offensive to them.
5. Perhaps I could either:  
(a) explain why I believe these positions are unwise, or even  
(b) reconsider my opposition to them,

depending on what they are.

1. The End.

I know, I know. Who could do such a thing?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/32 "2008-09-09T15:55:54Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> 1. She’s a nutjob.
> 2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
> 3. They’re all crazy too.
> 4. But since they all vote, perhaps I should consider that some of these positions are not offensive to them.
> 5. Perhaps I could either:  
> (a) explain why I believe these positions are unwise, or even  
> (b) reconsider my opposition to them,
> 
> depending on what they are.
> 
> **4. The End.**

(Bolding mine)

Is this an example of Rupublican Arithmatic?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/33 "2008-09-09T16:05:54Z")

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**Lemming 1:** Hey, do you know where we’re going?

**Lemming 2:** No idea… but from the size of this crowd, I can tell it’s gonna be _great_!

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/34 "2008-09-09T16:16:09Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Keep telling yourself that. And be heartened when the chorus of SDMB voices agrees with you.
> 
> Never mind the polls.
> 
> Pay no attention to the polls. Listen to the voices of those that already agree with you. Follow these steps:
> 
> 1. She’s a nutjob.
> 2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
> 3. They’re all crazy too.
> 4. The End.
> 
> Or – and work with me a minute, 'cause this is a whacky thought – perhaps you should reason thusly:
> 
> 1. She’s a nutjob.
> 2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
> 3. They’re all crazy too.
> 4. But since they all vote, perhaps I should consider that some of these positions are not offensive to them.
> 5. Perhaps I could either:  
> (a) explain why I believe these positions are unwise, or even  
> (b) reconsider my opposition to them,
> 
> depending on what they are.
> 
> 1. The End.
> 
> I know, I know. Who could do such a thing?

1. Two posters (at least) have now cited her looks/sex appeal as reasons they like her. I know a woman who voted for Bush twice because he is cute.

2. People are fucking morons. One of my cowokers was all excited about Palin, said she really liked her. Then I pointed out that if she were raped, Palin would try to force her to carry the baby to term. She then flip flopped and now doesn’t like her. Let’s not put too much stock in what these sheep think.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/35 "2008-09-09T16:22:27Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> Is this an example of Rupublican Arithmatic?

1. I don’t think it is, because it doesn’t involve running up the national debt by borrowing more money that **Bricker** ’s great-grandchildren will be paying back.

2. No, because it doesn’t involve 9 billion missing dollars in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/36 "2008-09-09T16:25:20Z")

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Never underestimate the stupidity of the conservative right–they voted for Bush, twice. Most of them (the most hardcore) still do. They blame “congress” for the state of their world (and it should share some of the blame), along with some vague threat of a secular society that includes more people that don’t look like them, worship like them or talk like them.

And never underestimate the ignorance of the American public, both Reps and Dems–people vote for candidates for inexplicable reasons. I have heard more than one person say that they voted for X due to ONE speech or they didn’t vote for Y because they didn’t like his tie. (that was my mother’s neighbor, btw).

If McCain wins, he wins. IMO, the condition of the country is so bad that it will take more than Obama et al to set it right. What is needed is a change in mindset and return to the willingness that got the interstates built and the libraries constructed. That is sorely lacking on both side of the aisle at this point. If McCain dies in office and Palin is President, I think we will see the consequences of voting for someone who talks in snarky sound bites and does not know how to lead. I fully grant she knows how to win. Governance is not the same thing–as W found out.

**Ted** –it wasn’t funny. And I find it strange how no one comments upon the fuckability of male candidates. I’m sure it’s in the Bible somewhere that it’s ok to view women this way. Why don’t you tell us all about it? Fight ignorance and all that.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/37 "2008-09-09T16:25:43Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
>
> Keep telling yourself that. And be heartened when the chorus of SDMB voices agrees with you.
> 
> Never mind the polls.
> 
> Pay no attention to the polls. Listen to the voices of those that already agree with you. Follow these steps:
> 
> 1. She’s a nutjob.
> 2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
> 3. They’re all crazy too.
> 4. The End.
> 
> Or – and work with me a minute, 'cause this is a whacky thought – perhaps you should reason thusly:
> 
> 1. She’s a nutjob.
> 2. But for some reason, a substantial number of the voting public seems to like her.
> 3. They’re all crazy too.
> 4. But since they all vote, perhaps I should consider that some of these positions are not offensive to them.
> 5. Perhaps I could either:  
> (a) explain why I believe these positions are unwise, or even  
> (b) reconsider my opposition to them,
> 
> depending on what they are.
> 
> 1. The End.
> 
> I know, I know. Who could do such a thing?

1. The non-voting public are largely morons who don’t bother to read past the spam that arrives on their computers.
2. Polls are bullshit unless they support **Bricker’s** position.
3. They’re not crazy, just watching the right hand while the left hand is sticking a poker up their asses.
4. They DON’T all vote, as you well know, they just stand in the fields and howl.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/38 "2008-09-09T16:25:56Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> So, the new standard of qualification for female candidates is the appearance that they like to have sex?

Of course! Remember, we’re talking about evangelical/fundamentalist Christians here – women are good for nothing more than incubating babies, right?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/39 "2008-09-09T16:48:56Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Plus, she pisses off so many of the fine folks here that the meltdown if/when McCain-Palin gets elected will be a glory to behold.

No shit. I haven’t seen so many soiled Democrat diapers since - hell, I don’t think I’ve _ever_ seen so many soiled Democrat diapers.

People are going nucking futs over her. I’d give a lot to know if McCain knew how brilliant a choice this was, or if he just got lucky.

But if they win, the day after elections on the SDMB is going to be pure comedy gold!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-another-palin-thread/462501/40 "2008-09-09T17:07:05Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Y’know, I find picking Palin more ludicrous by the day, but I gotta agree with Hawkins here. Don’t get all riled up. There will come a time when she has to face the music. Let’s see what the Republicans think about her after the VP debate. After the press forces her to start answering questions or she gets written off as an empty suit.
> 
> This is the Republicans’ mess; let them sweat it out. Anyone who thinks that religious fanatacism is an easy sell to the American public is in for a rude awakening, methinks.

Some guy on Rachel Maddow’s new show last night pointed out how Democrats like to worry. They aren’t comfortable unless they’re wringing their hands over some impending disaster. Republicans take advantage of this by tossing out various rhetorical equivalents of “boo!”. I think Obama has the right idea: just steady as she goes.

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