# Yes, it's time for another round of "Who's the dick?" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 11, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896 "2016-04-11T17:10:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/61 "2016-04-12T18:57:31Z")
City streets aren’t freeways. People are going to stop on them. It’s unreasonable to expect otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/62 "2016-04-12T19:01:26Z")
I’m going to go with the driver being the dick here. As a bike commuter I had to deal with cars in the bike lane constantly, and it’s unsafe (mainly for the biker) and incredibly annoying. If you are actively performing a pickup (the person is on the sidewalk and you drive up and they get in) or drop off, sure, use the bike lane for a minute. If you’re waiting for someone to show up, wait somewhere else and drive over when they’re ready to be picked up. It’s not the biker’s problem that you are inconvenienced. The biker certainly didn’t cover himself in glory either, no call for reacting like that. Riding in traffic can be a frustrating time, no need to make it worse for yourself and others. But he wasn’t the cause of the incident. The passenger should be informed that he needs to either be at the curb waiting or inform the drivers where to wait. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/63 "2016-04-12T19:06:11Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > But realize, being “the one most in the right” does not exclude one from being the biggest dick in any given setting. Actually, it often encourages Bigus Dickus. Then I’ll vote for the driver as the dickiest of them all. 🙂 I hate it when cars pull this shit and block a turning lane or whatever to wait for someone, so were I a bike rider, I expect I’d be at least equally as pissed. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/64 "2016-04-12T19:06:32Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > And maybe said Cyclist has already had to ‘just move into the vehcile’ lane 1/2 dozen times in 3 blocks because drivers think that a bike lane = Free Parking. > > It might have been an overreaction, but I have been there and I get real short with people whothink that cyclists should just put up with their use of the bike lane as a parking lot. Riding out of the bike lane to get around someone has a lot of risks - you have to turn around to see if it’s clear, you get closer to cars than you’d like, and you have to deal with the occasional driver pissed off that you’re slowing him down. Some drivers know the bike lane isn’t for stopping, but they have no other (relatively) simple option, they’ll be there briefly, and they feel a little bad about it while they’re stopped. I think the OP falls under this category. Cyclists should be understanding in this case and deal with it. Complaining to this kind of driver is a little dickish. Other drivers consider the bike lane free parking and don’t give a shit if cyclists need to ride out into traffic. The problem is that a cyclist has no idea which kind of driver is blocking their way. And after swerving around the 10th car in your lane, every driver starts to seem like the latter. So yeah, the cyclist was a bit of dick, but it’s understandable. The most dickish person is the passenger who chose a bad place for a pickup and wasn’t ready when the car arrived. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/65 "2016-04-12T19:14:44Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > City streets aren’t freeways. People are going to stop on them. It’s unreasonable to expect otherwise. I expect stopped cars now and then. I also think it is also reasonable that a bike lane should not have 3-4 cars per block in it using the lane as a parking spot for their special snowflakeness. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/66 "2016-04-12T19:27:56Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > I expect stopped cars now and then. I also think it is also reasonable that a bike lane should not have 3-4 cars per block in it using the lane as a parking spot for their special snowflakeness. Your response would be more reasonable if you hadn’t just pulled it out of your ass with no evidence whatsoever that’s what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/67 "2016-04-12T19:38:16Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Your response would be more reasonable if you hadn’t just pulled it out of your ass with no evidence whatsoever that’s what happened. Ah, so obviously [I am making it up](http://bicyclecoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blocked-13th-Street-bike-lane-1024x577.jpg). [Nobody ever parks in bike lanes](http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/images/01-100515_BikeLane_Carroll.2e16d0ba.fill-1200x630-c0.jpg) [I’m obviously delusional.](http://bicyclecoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/IMG_0293-1024x768.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/68 "2016-04-12T20:34:16Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Your response would be more reasonable if you hadn’t just pulled it out of your ass with no evidence whatsoever that’s what happened. You have no evidence that it happened in this case or that it ever happened to “my” rider. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/69 "2016-04-12T20:46:30Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You have no evidence that it happened in this case or that it ever happened to “my” rider. I’ll assume you were replying to me. No, I don’t have such evidence. But I’ve been there and know how this stuff builds up. It is slightly within the realm of possibility that this cyclist woke up and said to himself “I am going to explode out of proprotion on some guy who is just waiting on a passenger”, but I doubt it. More likely he had dealt with a series of blockages that he needed to manuever around (and causing needless risk) and there you were all mopey-dopey in your vehicle looking no different from some drivers who think it is their god-given right to park right on the bike lane in front of the pizza place and go in an order a few pies. Now, quite possibly his reaction was an overreaction. But it doesn’t matter, at the end of the day it was you who parked in the lane he was required to use, not the other way 'round. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/70 "2016-04-12T20:48:29Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You have no evidence that it happened in this case or that it ever happened to “my” rider. I’ve ridden in the city, it happens all the time. Trust me, it’s annoyingly common in some streets. Whether it happened in the past 5 minutes or the past 5 days, it happened to this rider. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/71 "2016-04-12T21:57:53Z")
> [@Azeotrope](#): > > The Golden Dick Award goes to the passenger, who could have prevented all this dickery by picking a better pickup location, or being ready and waiting for the ride, but instead was dicking around holding up the whole process. Dick. > > The Silver Dick Award goes to the cyclist, because while he was understandably pissed that someone was blocking the bike lane, which I’m sure happens way too often, he needs to understand that Life Isn’t Fair and sometimes you need to just pedal along swearing under your breath instead of throwing a temper tantrum at someone. Also he deserves it for wearing those stupid shorts. > > The Bronze Dick Award goes to Boyo Jim, who really ought to have some kind of contingency plan for when stuff like this happens, which it will, because people are dicks. He probably wears stupid shorts, too. Other than the gratuitous comments about shorts I’ll go with this for $100 Alex. Imagine for a minute \*\*Boyo Jim \*\*drove a trash truck. Or a city bus. Or a FedEx truck. Or was a mailman. Stopping briefly along the curb and blocking the rightmost lane would be part and parcel of the job. All day every day. Which would be true whether that rightmost lane was reserved for cars, bikes, slow men working, wheelchairs, or nuked gay whales. In cities the rightmost lane gets blocked a lot by vehicles stopping briefly for a myriad of reasons. Get used to it. The more I think about it, I revise my scoring. The OP was a selfish dummy, \*\*Boyo Jim \*\*was unimaginative versus the standard of care for a pro driver, and the bike rider was the sole and massively throbbing dick. There is no need for civilized people to be angry. If you can’t speak and negotiate like an adult I fell free to treat you like the child you evidently are. Mr. Biker is a mere child, and a petulant spoiled one at that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/72 "2016-04-12T22:17:17Z")
There are two possibilities, here: Either the biker came along as the OP was pulling in, or the OP was already pulled in by the time the biker came along. If the former, then the biker can’t just safely pass, because he has to assume that the driver is about to open the door into him. And if the latter, then the driver is not “just stopped to pick someone up”, because he’s been there for a while (a long while, to the best of the biker’s ability to determine). In fact, the OP has already told us that he was not just stopped to pick someone up, because there was nobody waiting there to be picked up. He had no reason to pull over. Both the OP and the passenger had means available at their disposal to make this a complete non-event. The biker had no such recourse. His options were to either stop and wait for an indeterminate amount of time for a reason he had no way of knowing, or to put himself into a more dangerous situation that he had every right to avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/73 "2016-04-12T22:23:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > OImagine for a minute \*\*Boyo Jim \*\*drove a trash truck. Or a city bus. Or a FedEx truck. Or was a mailman. Stopping briefly along the curb and blocking the rightmost lane would be part and parcel of the job. All day every day. Most streets don’t have bike lanes, so it doesn’t really apply to most of the day for those vehicles. A bus _should_ pull into the bus stop, leaving the bike lane free. It doesn’t always happen but most of the time it isn’t an issue. Trash trucks have to do their job, it’s a part of life in the city. Most streets with bike lanes don’t have mailboxes on the curb. Around here the postal carriers park in legal spots and deliver mail on foot. The places with mailboxes near the curb don’t have bike lanes so it’s not an issue. Not sure that’s universal. FedEx trucks are usually pretty quick but it’s pretty annoying and dangerous especially due to their size, near intersections, commercial driveways, and when there’s snowbanks to contend with. I would like it if they took more care to pick their double parking spots. Delivery trucks have limited options as well. Not sure if there’s a realistic way to eliminate those from city life. But cars double parking to let people run into stores, or leaving a car blocking the bike lane for 15 minutes while doing errands, or cabs pulling in abruptly to pick up fares, or Ubers sitting in the bike lane for an indeterminate period of time are preventable. I would love it they would get ticketed. None of that justifies yelling at the OP but I understand the frustration. I’ve certainly yelled at my share of bad drivers who swooped into the bike lane without looking or nearly doored me and put me in danger but that wasn’t justified here. I would just have spoken to the driver if I was in the right mood. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/74 "2016-04-13T00:42:49Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > To everyone claiming that the cyclist should have just happily waited for his lane to clear, in an equivalent situation, if you were on a two lane road with no parking lane, and too much oncoming traffic to pass, and an Uber or whatever was parked in your lane so you couldn’t get by, would you just calmly twiddle your thumbs and wait? I’m not going to believe you if you say yes. Did exactly this today. With a wave and a smile to the waiting driver. In a Prius. Which may make me the biggest dick of all.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/75 "2016-04-13T13:32:45Z")
For me it comes down to the question: “why don’t the rules apply to you?” Yes, you’re just bringing 20 items into he 15 items or fewer line, what’s the big deal? Yes you’re just cutting in front of me while I was waiting my turn, but you’ll just be a few minutes? Yes, you’re stopped in the bike lane when you know you’re not supposed to, but you’re waiting to pick someone up. All of us have reasons why we should be able to ignore the rules, every single person on the planet, but if we all did it, it would really, really suck for everyone. For some reason, some people (and it seems to be growing) think that they’re special, that they shouldn’t have to follow the rule because it inconveniences them (the fact is, the rest of us are also inconvenienced by following the rules, but we do it anyway), they’re just going to be a minute, so why can’t you just wait, or go around? Because we shouldn’t have to, that’s why. You’re no more special than me, why do you think you are? ---
**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/76 "2016-04-13T14:15:58Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You have no evidence that it happened in this case or that it ever happened to “my” rider. It doesn’t matter. As has been pointed out, the police aren’t going to respond in a timely fashion to a phoned-in complaint about a car blocking a bike lane. The whole system works, if it can be said to work, by balancing interests: Every once in a while, a vehicle blocks a bike lane. This is sometimes excusable, but if there is no counter-balancing force, eventually the bike lane becomes a parking lane. However, as the tendency to park in bike lanes increases, bikers will become pissed off more frequently, and occasionally erupt in a burst of negative re-inforcement. As a result, the driver is less likely to unthinkingly park his ass in a bike lane in the future. Other people see the driver getting reamed out, and are less likely to park in bike lanes. The driver posts to message boards, where other people read about the incident, and think, “Hmm, maybe I should go move my car,” or, “I should be more prompt about meeting my Uber driver.” The bicyclist posts to bike-boards, and other bicyclists become just a little more riled up and likely to become enraged in the future. Drivers, bicyclists, and law enforcement are all a part of a big system that never quite reaches equilibrium. It doesn’t matter what happened to your biker previously; he’s just playing his part in a system that has emerged to distribute and balance dickishness among all of its participants. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/77 "2016-04-13T14:23:06Z")
I’m curious as to why people say I was “parked” in the bike lane. I was in the drive’s seat, the engine was running and my flashers were on. No reasonable person should have the expectation that I would be there indefinitely. Also, have you seen various street signs? Some say “No Parking”. Some say “No Standing”. Some say “No Stopping”. And some have a combination of some or all of the 3. Clearly the law distinguishes between all these states. The signs on my street said “No Parking.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/78 "2016-04-13T14:33:45Z")
Well, the Wisconsin law says [the following](http://www.waukeshanow.com/news/what-is-the-law-governing-cars-in-bike-lanes-b99277214z1-260494451.html): > [@](#): > > No operator of a motor vehicle may drive upon a bicycle lane or bicycle way except to enter a driveway, to merge into a bicycle lane before turning at an intersection, or to enter or leave a parking space located adjacent to the bicycle lane or bicycle way." ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896/79 "2016-04-13T15:18:51Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Well, the Wisconsin law says [the following](http://www.waukeshanow.com/news/what-is-the-law-governing-cars-in-bike-lanes-b99277214z1-260494451.html): This is interesting, so I looked up Wisconsin state laws regarding parking, stopping and standing. I am willing to be educated, but under these rules I don’t even see that I could be ticked for what I did. If I’m missing something, please cite me the rule I broke. First, it is clear that I was not “parked” – which would mean leaving my vehicle unattended. I was “stopped”. I will also acknowledge that if I was indeed “parked” it would be a ticket-able offense, as there were “No Parking This Side of Street” signs at the curb. [346.53 & 346.53](http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/346/VIII/52) \*\*Stopping Prohibited in Certain Specified Areas \*\* > [@](#): > > (1) No person may stop or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or unattended and whether temporarily or otherwise, in any of the following places: > > (a) Within an intersection. > > (b) On a crosswalk. > > (c) Between a safety zone and the adjacent curb, or within 15 feet of a point on the curb immediately opposite the end of a safety zone unless a different distance is clearly indicated by an official traffic sign, pavement marking, or parking meter. > > (d) On a sidewalk or sidewalk area, except when parking on the sidewalk or sidewalk area is clearly indicated by official traffic signs, pavement markings, or parking meters. > > (e) Alongside or opposite any highway excavation or obstruction when stopping or standing at that place would obstruct traffic or when pedestrian traffic would be required to travel in the roadway. > > (f) On the roadway side of any parked vehicle unless double parking is clearly indicated by official traffic signs or pavement markings. > > (g) Within 15 feet of the driveway entrance to a fire station or directly across the highway from a fire station entrance. > > (h) Upon any portion of a highway where, and at the time when, stopping or standing is prohibited by official traffic signs indicating the prohibition of any stopping or standing. > > (i) Within 25 feet of the nearest rail at a railroad crossing. > > (1m) Notwithstanding sub. (1) (a) and (b), if snow accumulation at the usual bus passenger loading area makes it difficult to load or discharge bus passengers, the driver may stop a motor bus to load or discharge passengers on a crosswalk at an intersection where traffic is not controlled by a traffic control signal or a traffic officer. > > (2) During the hours of 7:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. during school days, no person may stop or leave any vehicle standing, whether temporarily or otherwise, upon the near side of a through highway adjacent to a schoolhouse used for any children below the 9th grade. If the highway adjacent to the schoolhouse is not a through highway, the operator of a vehicle may stop upon the near side thereof during such hours, provided such stopping is temporary and only for the purpose of receiving or discharging passengers. This subsection shall not apply to villages, towns or cities when the village or town board or common council thereof by ordinance permits parking of any vehicle or of school buses only on the near side of specified highways adjacent to schoolhouses during specified hours, or to the parking of vehicles on the near side of highways adjacent to schoolhouses authorized by s. 349.13 (1j). > > History: 1979 c. 325; 1983 a. 59; 1989 a. 71; 1993 a. 246; 1997 a. 159; 1999 a. 85; 2015 a. 124. [346.50](http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/346/VIII/50) **Exceptions to Stopping and Parking Restrictions** > [@](#): > > (1) The prohibitions against stopping or leaving a vehicle stand contained in ss. 346.51 to 346.54 and 346.55 do not apply when: > > (a) The vehicle becomes disabled while on the highway in such a manner or to such an extent that it is impossible to avoid stopping or temporarily leaving the vehicle in the prohibited place; or > > (b) The stopping of the vehicle is necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or to comply with traffic regulations or the directions of a traffic officer or traffic control sign or signal. > > (c) The vehicle of a public utility, as defined in s. 196.01 (5), a telecommunications carrier, as defined in s. 196.01 (8m), or a rural electric cooperative is stopped or left standing and is required for maintenance, installation, repair, construction or inspection of its facilities by the public utility or a rural electric cooperative when warning signs, flags, traffic cones, or flashing yellow lights or barricades, have been placed to warn approaching motorists of any obstruction to the traveled portion of the highway. > > (1m) In subs. (2) and (2a), the terms “municipal” and “municipally” include county. > > (2) Except as provided in sub. (3m), a motor vehicle bearing a special registration plate issued under s. 341.14 (1) to a disabled veteran or on his or her behalf is exempt from any ordinance imposing time limitations on parking in any street or highway zone and parking lot, whether municipally owned or leased, or both municipally owned and leased or a parking place owned or leased, or both owned and leased by a municipal parking utility, with one-half hour or more limitation but otherwise is subject to the laws relating to parking. Where the time limitation on a metered stall is one-half hour or more, no meter payment is required. Parking privileges granted by this subsection are limited to the disabled veteran to whom or on whose behalf the special plates were issued and to qualified operators acting under the disabled veteran’s express direction with the disabled veteran present. > > (2a) Except as provided in sub. (3m), a motor vehicle bearing special registration plates issued under s. 341.14 (1a), (1e), (1m), or (1q) or a motor vehicle upon which a special identification card issued under s. 343.51 is displayed or a motor vehicle registered in another jurisdiction upon which is displayed a registration plate, a card, or an emblem issued by the other jurisdiction designating the vehicle as a vehicle used by a physically disabled person is exempt from any ordinance imposing time limitations on parking in any street or highway zone and parking lot, whether municipally owned or leased, or both municipally owned and leased or a parking place owned or leased, or both owned and leased by a municipal parking utility, with one-half hour or more limitation but otherwise is subject to the laws relating to parking. Where the time limitation on a metered stall is one-half hour or more, no meter payment is required. Parking privileges granted by this subsection are limited to the following: > > (a) A person to whom plates were issued under s. 341.14 (1a). > > (b) A qualified operator acting under the express direction of a person to whom plates were issued under s. 341.14 (1a) when such person is present. > > (c) A person to whom plates were issued under s. 341.14 (1m) when the disabled person for whom the plates were issued is present. > > (d) A person for whom plates were issued under s. 341.14 (1q). > > (e) A qualified operator acting under the express direction of a person for whom plates were issued under s. 341.14 (1q) when such person is present. > > (h) A person or organization to whom a special identification card was issued under s. 343.51. > > (j) A qualified operator acting under the express direction of a person to whom a special identification card was issued under s. 343.51 when such person is present. > > (k) A qualified operator of a motor vehicle registered in another jurisdiction upon which is displayed a registration plate, a card or an emblem issued by the other jurisdiction designating the vehicle as a vehicle used by a physically disabled person if the vehicle is transporting the disabled person for whom the plate, card or emblem was issued. > > (L) A person to whom a plate was issued under s. 341.14 (1e). > > (m) A qualified operator acting under the express direction of a person to whom a plate was issued under s. 341.14 (1e) when such person is present. > > (3) Except as provided in sub. (3m), a vehicle bearing special registration plates issued under s. 341.14 (1), (1a), (1e), (1m), or (1q) or a motor vehicle upon which a special identification card issued under s. 343.51 is displayed or a motor vehicle registered in another jurisdiction upon which is displayed a registration plate, a card or an emblem issued by the other jurisdiction designating the vehicle as a vehicle used by a person with a physical disability is exempt from s. 346.505 (2) (a) or any ordinance in conformity therewith prohibiting parking, stopping, or standing upon any portion of a street, highway, or parking facility reserved for persons with physical disabilities by official traffic signs indicating the restriction. Stopping, standing, and parking privileges granted by this subsection are limited to the persons listed under subs. (2) and (2a) (a) to (m). > > (3m) > > (a) In this subsection, “motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person” has the meaning given in s. 346.503 (1). > > (b) The city council of a 1st or 2nd class city may enact an ordinance imposing a 3-hour or less limitation on parking of a motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person upon any portion of a street, highway or parking facility reserved by the city for physically disabled persons by official traffic signs indicating the restriction if the following conditions are complied with: > > 1. Before enactment, the city council seeks the advice and recommendation of a disabled parking council of at least 7 members established by an ordinance of the city or, if the city has established a disabled parking enforcement assistance council under s. 349.145, by that council, and holds a public hearing on the proposal. The majority of the members of any disabled parking council shall be appointed by the city council from among those residents of the city to whom or on whose behalf the department has issued a special registration plate under s. 341.14 (1) to (1q) or a special identification card under s. 343.51. > > 2. The ordinance may apply to not more than one-third of the number of spaces reserved by the city for use by a motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person, and no time limitation may be imposed on a reserved space in a parking facility unless an adjacent space without any such time limitation is reserved for use by a motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person. The ordinance shall require that the disabled parking council or, if applicable, the disabled parking enforcement assistance council give advice and make a recommendation on the location of such reserved spaces. > > 3. The official traffic sign for such reserved spaces shall include information on the applicable time limitation for use by a motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person. > > 4. The ordinance may not impose a penalty for a violation of the ordinance that is greater than the penalty for violation of any ordinance of the city imposing time limitations on parking upon any portion of a street, highway or parking facility. > > 5. The ordinance shall require the city to submit a report by December 31 of each odd-numbered year to the council on physical disabilities under s. 46.29 (1) (fm) on implementation and administration of the ordinance, including an evaluation of the effectiveness of time limitations imposed by the ordinance. With respect to spaces reserved by the city for use by a motor vehicle used by a physically disabled person upon any portion of a street, highway or parking facility, the report shall include the total number of spaces; the total number of spaces in a parking facility and the number of those spaces that are subject to a time limitation, and the duration of any such limitation; and the total number of spaces upon a street or highway and the number of those spaces that are subject to a time limitation, and the duration of any such limitation. ---
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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I’m curious as to why people say I was “parked” in the bike lane. I was in the drive’s seat, the engine was running and my flashers were on. No reasonable person should have the expectation that I would be there indefinitely. Were you planning on moving your car if a biker came along? If not, then none of this matters. You were obstructing the bike lane for a non-emergency reason. To a biker who is riding by your duration stopped there doesn’t really matter. To emergency vehicles or someone trying to move their legally parked car the distinction between parked and stopped is important. To a biker it’s just another car messing up the dedicated bike lane. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-its-time-for-another-round-of-whos-the-dick/751896.md?page=5)