# Yes, Number Six a girl. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 31, 2004, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412 "2004-12-31T11:08:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/21 "2005-01-01T07:32:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Happy Birthday! šŸ™‚ My heart is like a singing bird Whose nest is in a watered shoot. My heart is like an apple tree Whose boughs are bent with thick set fruit My heart is like a rainbow shell That paddles on a halcyon sea. From _A Birthday_, one of my favorite poems. > [@Miller](#): > > Thatā€™s awesome! Congratulations, Mrs. Six! > [@encinatas](#): > > You are not a number. You are a free woman! Thank you both. This brings up something I hadnā€™t exactly considered before. Iā€™m used to referring to my wife as Mrs. Six, but that was when I was promoting the assumption that I was Mr. Six. Iā€™ve put a link in my sig to this thread, but it might help to avoid confusion if I didnā€™t have a username that referenced what I thought was an obscure British tv show with a very masculine hero. [Does a search] **Kaitlyn** isnā€™t being used, but using your real life name is a bit boring. Maybe I could adopt the name of a more feminine spy. [searches again] **Agent 99** , isnā€™t taken, nor are **Abby Chase** or **Modesty Blaise** , and Modesty fits in well with my comic obsession. ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/22 "2005-01-01T08:00:40Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Have you noticed a change in sexual experience since you removed your testicles? Has the consistancy or amount of your semen changed? Just as a point of information (keeping in mind that I have not had an orchiectomy): the consistency and character of my semen changed over time on hormone replacement; that change was more marked when antiandrogens were added to the mix. Most notably, the ā€œmuskyā€ characteristic that semen normally has has been gone for ages. My semen now more closely resembles vaginal secretions than it does normal male semen. The volume is also much smaller. If anything, my sex drive increased on hormones. ---
**Author:** ![Frankenbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@Frankenbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankenbear)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/23 "2005-01-01T08:28:40Z")
Congratulations, **Number Six**! I wish you the best. May you have a long, healthy, _happy_ life. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/24 "2005-01-01T10:44:52Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Number Six- > > First off congratulations are in order. > > Second off I want to thank all the transsexuals that post here. I find your conditions fascinating becuase frankly I donā€™t understand it worth shit. It doesnā€™t compute in my head when someone says their sex feels wrong. I am a man but I donā€™t have a ā€˜feelingā€™ that I am a man. This is because your gender matches your physical sex. Mine didnā€™t, which caused the profound sense of discomfort of gender dysphoria. > [@](#): > > Onto my questions and if they are too personal I understand and remember that I am not trying to be offensive. No offense taken. > [@](#): > > You say your wife is heterosexual and well my question is do you worry that if you get the surgery she may not find you sexually attractive any more? No. Itā€™s more complex than that. None of the conventional sexual labels really fit our situation. My penis long ago ceased to be the focus of sexual pleasure for either of us, and it never really was for her in ther first place. My wife already relates to me both emotionally and sexually as a woman. Having SRS wouldnā€™t change that. > [@](#): > > Have you noticed a change in sexual experience since you removed your testicles? Keep in mind that the results are from a combination of both orchiectomy and hormone therapy. I donā€™t need to take androgen blockers, and take a lower dose of estrogens than those who keep their testes until SRS. Emotionally, I felt relieved. Not having testicles made me feel more like a woman. My sex drive was greatly decresed, but my sexual response was similarly increased. I can still get erections, but it takes a lot longer, they arenā€™t as hard, donā€™t last as long, and more than once in a day is no longer an option, nor would I want it to be. My penis is less sexually sensitive, but by less than I expected. I no longer get involuntary erections as a result of visual stimuli. On the other hand, my sexual response was greatly increased. Every other part of my body that is capable of sexual stimulation has greatly increased in sensitivity and response, and many that never produced any sexual response at all before do so now. This more than makes up for the loss of penile response, to the point that direct stimlation of the penis is no longer necessary when engaging in sex. I get more physical pleasure out of more parts of my body for a longer time when having sex. I can engage in foreplay just for the pleasure that gives without be frustrated if it doesnā€™t lead to orgasm. However. My orgasms have improved. Male and female orgasms are related, but different experiences. My female orgasms seem to be of a little less intensity, but I often have more than one, and have on a few occasions had a sustained orgasm, which is literally an incredible experience. And my skin has cleared up completely. > [@](#): > > Has the consistancy or amount of your semen changed? The volume is much less, and cosists of a thin, clear fluid. I sometimes, though rarely, have dry orgasms. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/25 "2005-01-01T10:50:15Z")
**KellyM** : Thanks for the information on the terrible state of laws pertaining to what constitutes oneā€™s legal sex. The solution seems obvious to me, but thatā€™s really a topic for Great Debates, so Iā€™ll let it drop. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/26 "2005-01-01T11:30:07Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Can I just add that both Mrs. Sixes sound like truly awesome and wonderful people? Man, (uh, figuratively), if thereā€™s ever a case of knowing for sure that someone loves you for you and doesnā€™t care about externals, you got it! Now letā€™s not go overboard. My wife greatly appreciates certain aspects of my externals. And quite skillfully I might add. šŸ˜ƒ But you are certainly right in describing her as awesome. > [@](#): > > Iā€™m really glad the school thing got sorted out. I remember reading of your case in the newspaper and being just so put out. Like it has one whit of bearing on your teaching ability what gender you are. I can see the complete transition being weird for the kids - that is, if you started the year as Mr. Keith and came back after Winter Break as Mrs. Kaitlyn. That might have been awkward. But Iā€™m sure you had a better plan than that, and to be prematurely outed by a clerk and then suspended for it was really poor form. A plan had been worked out already with my Principal. I was to transition during the summer and come back the next year as Ms. Kaitlyn. Parents whose children were to be in the grade I was to teach would be contacted and asked if they objected to their child being placed into my class, then classes were to be assigned on that basis. Parents at that school were permitted to request a placement in or out of a certain teacherā€™s class, and these requests were honored whenever possible. I generally had eight to ten of my twenty students as requested placements. I had a reputation that I had earned through hard work and as an outstanding teacher, the kind you wanted teaching your kids basic reading and math skills. My principal and I thought this would help ease the transition. Then those idiots at insurance claims and human resources went and screwed up a situation that was already under control. But here I am, ready to step into the classroom in two days, for the first time in a year, and for the first time ever as a woman. I havenā€™t been this nervous about teaching a class in ten years. > [@](#): > > But congratulations! > > (Oh, and be a girl as long as you need to. I was born a girl and am now a woman, but about three years ago at 27, I realized I had never been an young woman, because of my early pregnancy and motherhood. So I declared myself a ā€œborn-again Maidenā€ and indugled that atrophied part of my psyche. It lasted just as long as it needed to (about 3 years) and now Iā€™m pregnant again and feel truly ready to embrace my archetypal Mother.) I envy you. The only good thing to come out of the debacle with my job was that I got to be a housewife for the past year. When and if we decide to have children, the plan is for me to be a stay at home mommy until the little ones reach school age. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/27 "2005-01-01T12:46:15Z")
Congratulations Kaitlyn! Good Luck with your first day back at work. You sound like a great teacher and a lovely lady. You and your wife seem like a wonderful couple, best wishes for you both for a peaceful and joyous New Year! ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/28 "2005-01-01T16:05:38Z")
What a great way to begin a new year. Congratulations, and best wishes on the remainder of your journey, Kaitlyn! ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/29 "2005-01-01T22:10:57Z")
Well, hot damn and hallelujah, Ms. 6! Sounds like youā€™ve got everything lined up. Happy New Year and send my love to the other missus. Weā€™re building quite the little trans community on the board, arenā€™t we? Thereā€™s you, **Eve, Johanna, KellyM, Jomo Mojo, Sterra, umop ap!sdn** ā€¦ am I forgetting anyone? ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/30 "2005-01-01T22:58:38Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > Well, hot damn and hallelujah, Ms. 6! Sounds like youā€™ve got everything lined up. Happy New Year and send my love to the other missus. > > Weā€™re building quite the little trans community on the board, arenā€™t we? Thereā€™s you, **Eve, Johanna, KellyM, Jomo Mojo, Sterra, umop ap!sdn** ā€¦ am I forgetting anyone? **Johanna** is the Poster Formerly Known As **Jomo Mojo** , no? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/31 "2005-01-02T00:11:23Z")
So youā€™re not [this poster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=36888), right? šŸ˜ƒ I kid. Congratulations. I hope things go well for you. ---
**Author:** ![Shanara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Shanara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shanara)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/32 "2005-01-02T00:38:03Z")
Go fot it, sisā€¦ Congratulations. I just got my legal sex and legal name changed 1 month ago (cannot have a female name without being female in my country), so guess I understand your hapynessā€¦ Really, congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/33 "2005-01-02T00:40:56Z")
Congrats, **Number Six**. > [@Shanara](#): > > I just got my legal sex and legal name changed 1 month ago Welcome to the SDMB! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/34 "2005-01-02T01:26:23Z")
Hail and Welcome to you too, **Shanara**! šŸ™‚ What a beautiful little community of transpeople weā€™re starting to gather here. I hope you will register as a member and help us to educate others about it. Fighting ignorance and all that. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/35 "2005-01-02T06:21:40Z")
> [@Shanara](#): > > ā€¦ (cannot have a female name without being female in my country) ā€¦ Where do you live? Hell, we have non-TG guys here in the US with female namesā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/36 "2005-01-02T07:05:05Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Where do you live? Hell, we have non-TG guys here in the US with female namesā€¦ Up until recently, that could have been Quebec, until Micheline Montreuil took them to court (among the blisteringly obviously arguments used: ā€œJeanā€ is a guyā€™s name if youā€™re French, a girlā€™s name if youā€™re English). ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/37 "2005-01-02T07:27:44Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > Up until recently, that could have been Quebec, until Micheline Montreuil took them to court (among the blisteringly obviously arguments used: ā€œJeanā€ is a guyā€™s name if youā€™re French, a girlā€™s name if youā€™re English). Any idea why the law was in existence in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/38 "2005-01-02T08:09:30Z")
No clue, except that it had something to do with the civil code and the authority it gave the registrar over names. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/39 "2005-01-02T08:11:28Z")
I should say that it wasnā€™t in the Civil Code in the first place; AFAIK, thatā€™s just the reason they gave for denying Ms. Montreuilā€™s name change, which she then had to fight. Actually, I believe the main reason the court gave for accepting her suit was that it didnā€™t, in fct, actually say anywhere that a legal male (which she is, much against her will, which is a whoooooole other story) had to have a manā€™s name. ---
**Author:** ![Shanara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Shanara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shanara)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412/40 "2005-01-02T08:31:52Z")
Wellā€¦ guess Iā€™m notjoining as a member, since I lost my credit card, soā€¦ until I recover it, probably in three or four monthsā€¦ itā€™ll be imposible. Iā€™m living in Spain, and here we can have ehmā€¦ neutral namesā€¦ but once you choose a name, you must stick to it, so, as my choosen nameā€™s not neutral, I had to wait. Anyway, itā€™s not a problem, anymore šŸ™‚ About fighting ignoranceā€¦ Yeah, I would like to help, and, while I may be not able to join as a member, Iā€™m able to ā€œrejoinā€ as guess as many times as I need while waiting for my credit card šŸ˜› [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-number-six-a-girl/282412.md?page=3)