# YesAllWomen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 26, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277 "2014-05-26T11:09:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277/161 "2014-06-19T20:45:27Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> . . . The problem is that #YesAllWomen does not in any way address the issue that men are bringing up when they say “Not all men…” The issue is not that we believe that women have not felt sexism, even the most extreme kinds. The issue is that we don’t think you should take your bad experience with a small percentage of the population and treat everyone like potential rapists. . . .

Not to hear my dad tell it, rest his soul. Be aware. Take precautions. You never know. With a subtext of: you know I worry and I’d be devastated if anything happened to you. It left me in the odd position of feeling obliged to treat everyone with suspision (that translates as not going anyplace ‘unsafe’) and of resenting having to, because I was doing it more to protect my dad’s feelings than to protect myself.

Question: Do you feel that every sitcom that shows Dad in a tizzy about his daughter dating or shows him threatening the date when he shows up is insulting all men? Because if women are being insulting when they admit publicly that its uncomfortable having to be on guard against abuse, then it should be insulting when men are similarly on guard, right?

> [@BigT](#):
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> But that’s the problem. Deliberately making people uncomfortable makes you an asshole. . . . .

We should just assume that you don’t want to know? That you already know, but don’t want to feel it? Sorry. We assumed that if we could handle it, you could handle the echo of it.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277/162 "2014-06-19T23:08:45Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Or maybe, in fact all men do think its ok to ogle women in the workplace? In which case, it shouldn’t be at all surprising that the YesAllWomen tag got traction.

That’s odd. Your first sentence is one of those cases where “not all men” seems to be an appropriate response.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277/163 "2014-06-20T00:13:12Z")

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Saw a cartoon recently where a man was lying on the road bleeding. Someone comes up and asks what happened. The man on the road says “Some driver just ran over me and didn’t even stop to help.” The other guy replies angrily, “Not all drivers are like that, asshole!” and stomps off.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277/164 "2014-06-20T00:19:17Z")

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Guys.

GUYS.

When, through no fault of your own, and one of your fellow human beings seems fearful or nervous around you for no reason you can see, what is the compassionate thing to do?

Of course this will differ from situation to situation (though there are likely thematic similarities across the board). But the question is, are you doing that compassionate thing?

1. You are? Go to two. Else go to three.

2. You’re good then. If the fellow human being doesn’t seem to realize this, continue acting compassionately. Nice work. Thumbs up and good job.

3. You’re not? Go to four.

4. Why the hell not?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesallwomen/689277/165 "2014-06-20T00:23:04Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> I don’t understand why this is concept is so hard to grasp.
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> You are claiming that “men need to be taught not to rape” should not be offensive to men.

Don’t be a dunderhead. Think the next thought. Why does no one just think the next thought?

It’s a response to what it is said “women need to be taught,” as a class. Whatever you want to say about how _that_ isn’t sexist, an exactly parallel and exactly as valid argument will be available for how the “men need to be taught” statement also isn’t sexist.

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