# Yesterday (2019 film) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 18, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769 "2019-02-18T15:45:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/201 "2021-09-30T18:17:37Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The Dave Clark Five were for a brief moment as big as or even bigger than the Beatles. No reason to think they couldn’t have filled some of the role of The Beatles (except for talent 🙂 ) They even had a zany movie. DC5’s movie sounds like a better movie than Hard Day’s Night. With The Monkees, I think guitar groups would have emerged even without the Beatles. While the Beatles eventually writing all of their own songs made them more talented, I don’t think that was truly necessary to their success, and someone else could have cobbled together a hugely successful group with more outside help. There were still plenty of rock and roll songs coming out of the Brill Building et al, which the Monkees in fact used to huge success. Beatles had nothing to do with what happened in Motown or Brill Building or other places. As far as someone coming up with a clutch of Beatles songs or Beatles type songs (without the actual Beatles having existed) in 2021, I think they would fall on largely deaf ears, and be merely a cult act. Ask yourself, if Elton John or Billy Joel had the same treatment, disappear them from their 1970s-1980s timeline and plop them down today, would they be huge hits? I don’t think so. I think John and Joel did leverage a lot of what the Beatles did in producing hit friendly pop rock and roll, but I think that time has passed now. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/202 "2021-09-30T18:21:21Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I like the original concept better. I don’t think it would make nearly as good a movie. Watching a guy be bitter that he wasn’t as famous as he thought he should be certainly doesn’t make for a very likeable protagonist. Watching a guy bite off more than he can chew allows him to remain the good guy. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/203 "2021-09-30T18:32:01Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t think it would make nearly as good a movie. Watching a guy be bitter that he wasn’t as famous as he thought he should be certainly doesn’t make for a very likeable protagonist. Watching a guy bite off more than he can chew allows him to remain the good guy. I agree, it’s a better movie concept, even if I think it’s unrealistic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/204 "2021-09-30T19:08:26Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > …With The Monkees, I think guitar groups would have emerged even without the Beatles… Do you really think so?: [Beatles Rejection: We Don’t Like Their Sound. Groups of Guitars Are On Their Way Out – Quote Investigator®](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/27/guitars-out/#:~:text=Groups%20of%20guitars%20are%20on%20the%20way%20out%2C%E2%80%9D%20a%20recording,don't%20like%20their%20sound). ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/205 "2021-09-30T19:25:55Z")
“Yesterday” is one of my favourite movies. It is my most recent, and maybe my last ever (due to the death of the format), DVD purchase. Sure, it has its faults if you think too much about the alternate time line, but I love it. Richard Curtis sure knows how to write a great screenplay. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/206 "2021-09-30T19:28:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Do you really think so?: [Beatles Rejection: We Don’t Like Their Sound. Groups of Guitars Are On Their Way Out – Quote Investigator](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/27/guitars-out/#:~:text=Groups%20of%20guitars%20are%20on%20the%20way%20out%2C%E2%80%9D%20a%20recording,don't%20like%20their%20sound). Yes, I do. Seen that quote a million times now. ---
**Author:** ![Paxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Paxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paxx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/207 "2021-10-01T17:44:53Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t think it would make nearly as good a movie. Watching a guy be bitter that he wasn’t as famous as he thought he should be certainly doesn’t make for a very likeable protagonist. There’s nothing in the article that I quoted that says the guy became bitter, although it’s possible. The predominant emotion would be frustration, and the audience could root for him as he struggles to achieve mainstream success. Ultimately, he could come to peace with the lack of superstardom. There could still be a romantic interest, a money-hungry agent, and the conversation with Lennon. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/208 "2022-01-24T18:51:16Z")
Anyone can sue about anything; winning is something else again: > **[Fans sue Universal Pictures for cutting Ana de Armas from film | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/entertainment/ana-de-armas-lawsuit-intl-scli/index.html)** > > Two fans of the actress Ana de Armas are suing the studio Universal Pictures for allegedly duping them into renting a film because they believed she would be in it due to trailers and promotional material. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/209 "2022-01-24T18:56:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Anyone can sue about anything; winning is something else again It does seem deceptive to market a film as containing a particular actor, who isn’t in it. However, the damages seem de minimis > **[De Minimis | Practical Law](https://signon.thomsonreuters.com?productid=PLCUK&viewproductid=UKPL&lr=0&culture=en-US&returnto=https%3a%2f%2fuk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com%2fCosi%2fSignOn%3fredirectTo%3d%252f1-382-3382%253ftransitionType%253dDefault%2526contextData%253d%28sc.Default%29%2526firstPage%253dtrue&tracetoken=0108240144400yt1cI3S6EMy1ap3FfLnrgZ48BAf4OO37V74Ts5ZaxfUE1sPOHoc4McX7up9alSJcWCi4FKajSj1rg-tzZRvfgdv5JSAS78eyXDxdHNDpkcDqT-ucFZkANcXiTW2hUlFTDrs4GyHPPzuCv-Wj-A7btW1WtQqleJhWVTmco_e8z-CKuDWzYZGqT6_ROdm9fLZ3L_Zx6pNuW0fzBHLXvu8ri76kfSYDYLLYmzVd5C0JjYewVef75qbiOjTQUFJThs1rsVcVXpbDrEpgLEys3snRxj3vtAmMIEmjw2ehAIVdDJe7XasNj8r6EeduEtyFo5VHQ8yLvdhytDaXo10SNFdrMm79S9O_9oLxr3_0XcdZy2yWVDqHK1qSfFdo85nxkEYd)** > > De Minimis | Practical Law ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/210 "2022-01-24T19:01:44Z")
They’re seeking damages on behalf of the people who paid to see it. I watched it in theaters and rented it. I’ve never heard of this actress, but if money’s involved, can I get in on that? I could use money to repair my roof. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/211 "2022-01-26T02:25:43Z")
Is de minimus like when in the 1986 USFL antitrust lawsuit against the NFL for millions, and they won $1.00 - literally a dollar? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/212 "2022-01-26T19:03:58Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > > Already been done. > > > > [Otherworld](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667370/?ref_=ttep_ep4) > > > > “In the Centrex province, Trace and Gina introduce rock ‘n’ roll music, and record songs written by the Beatles and other classic artists.” > > > > Everything old is new again. Especially if people forget the first time. > > I’m not sure if “forget” is the right word to one episode of a very shortlived 80’s tv show. Yeah, I forgot Otherworld to the point where I thought I actually imagined it as a small boy. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/213 "2022-12-22T15:57:22Z")
An update - the judge agreed with plaintiffs: > **[Ana de Armas Fans’ Lawsuit Puts Studios at Risk Over Deceptive Trailers](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/ana-de-armas-yesterday-false-advertising-1235467419/)** > > Movie studios can be sued under false advertising laws if they release deceptive movie trailers, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday. U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson issued a ruling in a case invol… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/214 "2022-12-22T16:18:21Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > An update - the judge agreed with plaintiffs: Interesting. I agree with Universal. This opens the door to a lot of lawsuits. If you can sue over the trailer, can suing over a shitty movie be far behind? And…play the Summer Song! ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/215 "2022-12-22T16:26:26Z")
When you walk out of a shitty movie you expect to get your money back from the theatre box office, not to sue for millions of dollars in damages, ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/216 "2022-12-22T17:18:41Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > When you walk out of a shitty movie you expect to get your money back from the theatre box office,… I would not expect that. I would never even think I should ask. You buy a ticket and take tour chances. Movies don’t come with warranties. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/217 "2022-12-22T17:22:27Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Interesting. I agree with Universal The judge ruled they have a right to bring the suit, that doesn’t mean they’ll win. In fact, class certification is a long shot, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/218 "2022-12-22T19:40:57Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I would never even think I should ask. I did once. It was so stupid I walked out in the middle. They weren’t too happy, but they did. I was young, I needed the money. 🙂 I wish I could join a class action suit against The Phantom Menace… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/219 "2022-12-23T12:11:09Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > He’s a rock star to the **audience** and to the protagonist. No other reason to look up a retired seaman in that timeline To me, certainly. I screened it with my wife and burst into tears when he opened the door. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/220 "2022-12-27T02:16:21Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I watched it in theaters and rented it. I’ve never heard of this actress, At the time they made Yesterday, and created the trailer and then later cut out De Armas’s scenes, very few people HAD heard of her. She’d had some roles, but she wasn’t a star. It was around the same time she had an actual lead turn in “Knives Out,” and then she became really famous. This just bolsters Universal’s point; it’s not as if they dangled an A-list start like Taylor Swift or Tom Cruise as the star of the show and the pulled a bait and switch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769.md?page=12)