# Yesterday (2019 film) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 18, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769 "2019-02-18T15:45:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/41 "2019-04-24T00:50:07Z")
I’m curious to see what happens when the two men show up saying they wrote the songs. It would be so awesome if Paul did a cameo appearance in the movie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/42 "2019-04-24T17:50:02Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Sort of like _The Invention of Lying_, where the world is far, far, _far_ too similar to our own. I’d say it’s because the focus of the movie is not on an alternate history. These movies aren’t supposed to be like _The Man in the High Castle_. _The Invention of Lying_ isn’t about how a world where people don’t lie would develop. It’s about the character arc of an individual who finds himself surrounded by magically credulous people. Similarly, _Yesterday_ isn’t about what music or culture would look like without one of the most influential bands in the world existing. It’s about how an individual deals with the massive unearned fame and success that comes from having magical access to that band’s songs. I’m looking forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/43 "2019-06-18T19:26:29Z")
What came to mind for me on seeing the trailer is wondering what the theme song for _Live and Let Die_ would end up being, since I assume Ian Fleming and his novels and the subsequent film adaptations would still exist. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/44 "2019-06-18T20:29:32Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > What came to mind for me on seeing the trailer is wondering what the theme song for _Live and Let Die_ would end up being, since I assume Ian Fleming and his novels and the subsequent film adaptations would still exist. Did they say in the trailer that Wings didn’t exist either? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/45 "2019-06-18T21:10:29Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Did they say in the trailer that Wings didn’t exist either? No, I just assumed that Paul McCartney either doesn’t exist in this alternate reality or is a complete unknown unlikely to have been hired to compose a song for a successful movie franchise. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/46 "2019-06-19T01:05:02Z")
No need to assume that. Lots of very talented people never get discovered, that could have happened to the Beatles. Or maybe John dies in a car accident and Paul bounces around writing for other people or gets a solo career. I definitely could see McCartney making a cameo as some bitter old behind the scene jingle writer. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/47 "2019-06-19T04:39:42Z")
Yesterday was Sir Paul’s 77th birthday, as it happens. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/48 "2019-06-19T05:01:13Z")
I remember a series 2 twilight zone ep where this guy from the future went back in time before Elvis was famous and hitched a ride with him and Elvis died and he ended up taking his place… even to the point where he met his girlfriend as elvis … ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/49 "2019-06-19T05:44:07Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > I remember a series 2 twilight zone ep where this guy from the future went back in time before Elvis was famous and hitched a ride with him and Elvis died and he ended up taking his place… even to the point where he met his girlfriend as elvis … That was _The Once and Future King_, screenplay by George R. R. Martin. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/50 "2019-06-19T05:52:09Z")
It would be so funny seeing a unknown artist bring a song like She Loves You and have it rejected by the music publishers. They’d have a dozen suggestions to “fix” the song. 😉 Completely clueless that She Loves You would launch a bands career to super stardom. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/51 "2019-06-19T13:26:47Z")
Honest question though; do you think “She Loves You” would work today as a hit? It sounds very old, outdated if you will. It was revolutionary in 1963, but that was 56 damn years ago. The Beatles of 1963-1964 are dramatically different from the later Beatles. Their music became indescribably refined and timeless; “Yesterday” would work in any year. I don’t know that all their earlier stuff would, though. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/52 "2019-06-19T13:45:03Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It would be so funny seeing a unknown artist bring a song like She Loves You and have it rejected by the music publishers. > > They’d have a dozen suggestions to “fix” the song. ;)… Roger Ebert wrote about a prankster who, in the late Seventies, submitted the script for \*Casablanca \*to a dozen studios, with all the names changed. Most rejected it out of hand; only a few recognized it. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/53 "2019-06-19T14:35:03Z")
The Casablanca prankster was Chuck Ross. He sent it to 217 agents (not studios). 90 returned it unread for various reasons, 33 recognized it, 8 thought it was similar to Casablanca but didn’t recognize that it actually _was_ Casablanca, 38 rejected it with a variety of amusing comments (“too much dialog”, “weak story”, etc), and 3 actually got interested in representing it. [http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/casablanca\_rejected](http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/casablanca_rejected) The same guy did a similar hoax by typing up part of Jerzy Kosinski’s award winning novel _Steps_ and sending it to four book publishers. All of them rejected it, including the publisher of _Steps_ itself. Then he tried again, this time typing up the whole novel and submitting it to 14 publishers. They again all rejected it, one commenting that the style was good (“Jerzy Kosinski comes to mind”!!!) but the book as a whole was a failure. > **[The Steps Experiment](http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/the_steps_experiment/)** > > Artwork accompanying Ross's 1979 article describing the Steps Experiment. In 1975 Chuck Ross was selling cable TV door-to-door, and dreaming of becoming a writer. However, he felt the odds were stacked against him since the publishing industry... ---
**Author:** ![Helmut\_Doork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e8c25b/32.png) [@Helmut\_Doork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helmut_Doork)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/54 "2019-06-19T15:41:06Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It would be so funny seeing a unknown artist bring a song like She Loves You and have it rejected by the music publishers. > > They’d have a dozen suggestions to “fix” the song. 😉 > > Completely clueless that She Loves You would launch a bands career to super stardom. To be fair any of their early songs would have similarly launched their career, which in the early years was more based on look and other things moreso than song quality- none of their very early work holds up like the better late period stuff- Something and Yesterday would be hits if released today, I Wanna Hold Your Hand and She Loves You, probably too slight and twee to hit in 1969, let alone 2019. eta: post #51 pretty much says the same thing- sorry (hits head) ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/55 "2019-06-19T20:22:50Z")
Call me crazy but I thing She Loves You is so great it would be a hit no matter when it was made. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/56 "2019-06-19T20:55:39Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > The Casablanca prankster was Chuck Ross. He sent it to 217 agents (not studios). 90 returned it unread for various reasons, 33 recognized it, 8 thought it was similar to Casablanca but didn’t recognize that it actually _was_ Casablanca, 38 rejected it with a variety of amusing comments (“too much dialog”, “weak story”, etc), and 3 actually got interested in representing it. > [Casablanca Rejected (1982)](http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/casablanca_rejected) I’m a little dubious about the results of this study - I’d say “at least 33 recognized it” while 41 rejected it without acknowledging that it was Casablanca (if I got an obviously plagiarized work in the mail, I’d prefer not to get into a discussion with the (perhaps dangerous) guy who mailed it - a mild rejection without an accusation would seem more prudent), while only 3 give convincing evidence that they actually didn’t recognize it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/57 "2019-06-19T21:03:00Z")
I’ve already bought a ticket for opening weekend. I am curious to see how the story handles songs like Penny Lane, where the lyrics reference people and places in Liverpool. (The trailer/commercial for the movie has a funny bit in which Ed Sheeran advises the lead character to change “Hey Jude” to “Hey Dude”.) ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/58 "2019-06-19T21:23:01Z")
So, Pete Best is even less famous in this movie than in real life? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/59 "2019-06-22T17:39:24Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’ve already bought a ticket for opening weekend. Was it a ticket to ride? (d&r) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769/60 "2019-06-22T23:05:59Z")
> [@fjs1fs](#): > > Call me crazy but I thing She Loves You is so great it would be a hit no matter when it was made. I agree. It’s a perfect little pop masterpiece. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yesterday-2019-film/829769.md?page=4)