# yet another bad call  -

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213>\
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**Created:** [January 18, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213 "2015-01-18T21:04:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/41 "2015-01-19T18:25:30Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I also didn’t feel that **Ibn** ’s comment warranted a warning. Or even a mod note, really. He more or less said, “People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”, with helpful quotes.

That would be an insult.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/42 "2015-01-19T18:47:24Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That would be an insult.

😕

Are you joking here? How is that an insult?

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/43 "2015-01-19T19:10:31Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> “Idiot” and “fucking stupid” go rather beyond that.

It’s a good thing that nothing like that happened in the post quoted by the OP.

I can’t believe that even needs to be pointed out.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/44 "2015-01-19T19:20:28Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> 😕
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> Are you joking here? How is that an insult?

Because it directly refers to the poster and not the post - but it would certainly be a grey area - probably deserving of a ‘lets dial it back’ or throat clearing note.

See also - pot/kettle and speck/timber references.

Context _could_ show that it was saying that the users posts are the same as the other users posts - but.

In the OP - there is very little doubt that Ibn Warraq was referring specifically to the post itself and at no time directed a personal attack.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/45 "2015-01-19T19:26:06Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> “Idiot” and “fucking stupid” go rather beyond that.

Those were quotes from the post that Ibn Warraq was talking about.

If we say using those words is a warnable offense, without any regard for context, then your post is a violation of that rule.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/46 "2015-01-19T19:30:15Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That would be an insult.

Got it - it should be “Posts in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.” **Post** not poster.

Nonetheless, I still don’t think **Ibn** deserved the warning. He was clearing quoting the **post** in question, despite my poor attempt to help out.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/47 "2015-01-20T03:40:35Z")

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Upon reconsideration, I have decided to rescind the warning issued to **Ibn Warraq**.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/48 "2015-01-20T03:43:37Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Upon reconsideration, I have decided to rescind the warning issued to **Ibn Warraq**.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it. That said, I think you may have accidentally posted this in the wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/49 "2015-01-20T03:45:32Z")

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The post in question reminds me of some kid who was told not to touch his sister and so keeps buzzing his finger an inch or so from her face. He’s not touching her, but it’s still an actionable offense.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/50 "2015-01-20T04:00:20Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I appreciate it. That said, I think you may have accidentally posted this in the wrong thread.

I did. I moved it to the right one.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/51 "2015-01-20T13:10:33Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/52 "2015-01-20T16:28:27Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Upon reconsideration, I have decided to rescind the warning issued to **Ibn Warraq**.

Correctly decided, and good on you for reconsidering. I was going to add to the list of folks posting that it was a “bad call”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bad-call/710213/53 "2015-01-20T18:41:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]

Upon reconsideration, I have decided to rescind the warning issued to Ibn Warraq.  
[/QUOTE]  
Good call. Kudoes.

Regards,  
Shodan

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