# Yet another bimbo "wellness" blogger found to be a fraud **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 18, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331 "2015-03-18T22:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/61 "2015-03-20T03:03:50Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I may be a sceptic middle aged male who’s a little bit overweight but I have no illusions about why this is so. I eat and drink too much and don’t exercise enough. > > I also (and here’s the key point) _don’t go around telling people what they should eat or drink or how much they should exercise, and if I did I wouldn’t speak complete and utter horseshit._ > > Do you see how this might distinguish me a little from the type of blogger the OP is talking about? Just a little? See, here’s the problem with your type. You actually know very little about nutrition, much like those bloggers. And you’re loud and proud, too, like them. At least some of them recognize that there’s something severely wrong with the current allopathic model of medicine, which often ends up drugging and cutting instead of fixing things through lifestyle changes and education. Also, I’d bet a number of them (the more sincere) live quite a bit healthier than you do, and look and feel better as a result. debunking woo doesn’t get the fat off your butt, or you off your fat butt. LOL ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/62 "2015-03-20T03:12:20Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > About that claim that female nutrition skeptics are “an extremely rare breed”: this runs counter to my experience, seeing that there are a lot of women professionals in the nutrition field, who have written numerous online articles about nutrition fads and fallacies. > > One prominent female skeptic who’s made contributions on this subject is Harriet Hall\*, a retired Air Force flight surgeon and family doctor, who writes for the Skeptical Inquirer and [Science-Based Medicine](http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/diet-supplements-or-nutritional-supplements-a-ruse-by-any-other-name-is-still-a-ruse/). > > \*she used to have a column in Oprah’s magazine, but apparently her point of view didn’t go down so well with Madame Woo. The plural of anecdote is not data, dude. Just because you are either 1. Honestly ignorant of the typical nutrition skeptic’s profile and tendencies, or 2. Hoping that at least one person reading your post might believe you, out of ignorance doesn’t mean that 99 out of a hundred nutrition skeptics aren’t the usual fat white dudes. Seriously, I know the type from arguing with them online for years. They want 50 peer-reviewed studies on the health benefits of eating an apple instead of a deep-fried Oreo before they’ll actually change their diet. I’m all for skepticism, but their motivations are so transparently NOT unbiased. I feel bad for them. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/63 "2015-03-20T03:37:00Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > At least some of them recognize that there’s something severely wrong with the current allopathic model of medicine, which often ends up drugging and cutting instead of fixing things through lifestyle changes and education. Lifestyle changes can’t be made by doctors, they have to be made by the individual. You can educate people all you want, they might even listen, but at the end of the day they have to do the work. Your doctor can’t lose weight for you. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/64 "2015-03-20T03:43:54Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > The plural of anecdote is not data, dude. Speaking of which, can you please show us some of that data that you have to prove the gender divide you speak of. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/65 "2015-03-20T04:41:27Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Speaking of which, can you please show us some of that data that you have to prove the gender divide you speak of. This. You’re hilarious, **getlives**. You reach a sweeping conclusion about me and my nutritional knowledge based on one throwaway line. You tell me about my fat (200km-a-week-cycling) ass. You lecture **Jackmannii** about strong data then offer up as support of your fundamental premise a personal anecdote. Credibility you have none. Furthermore, I don’t know about where you live but around here qualified evidence based medical establishment professionals educate the population about lifestyle changes day in day out. The difference between them and woo bloggers is they aren’t so pig-ignorant as to think we ordinarily breathe pure oxygen or that you can cure cancer by squirting coffee up our ass. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/66 "2015-03-20T06:13:11Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > You reach a sweeping conclusion about me and my nutritional knowledge based on one throwaway line. In all fairness, some throwaway lines speak volumes … > [@get\_lives](#): > > the current allopathic model of medicine ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/67 "2015-03-20T11:57:09Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Speaking of which, can you please show us some of that data that you have to prove the gender divide you speak of. I’m speaking from my own personal experience. I doubt there’s been any studies done at all. But this is all irrelevant to my larger point–that skeptics on aversge probably are not as healthy as their woo counterparts. I can definitely point to some exceptions I know personally right off the bat on the woo side. However, IME, the trend exists. Instead of asking for an impossible cite on that claim (because no such study exists, or ever will, probably), why not ask yourselves the incredibly hard question of “why”? If it’s true, what would that imply? To me it implies that people who ignore the original human diet in favor of the modern American diet are doomed to fail at good health, individual exceptions aside. It also says that skeptics, while they usually understand statistics and logic fairly well, have so little background in actual unbiased nutritional research, especially of traditional/original human diets, that they wouldn’t know how to fix their diet if they WANTED to. And I know about the social pressure to eat unhealthily. I realize that’s a big part of why many people struggle. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/68 "2015-03-20T11:59:12Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > This. You’re hilarious, **getlives**. > > You reach a sweeping conclusion about me and my nutritional knowledge based on one throwaway line. You tell me about my fat (200km-a-week-cycling) ass. You lecture **Jackmannii** about strong data then offer up as support of your fundamental premise a personal anecdote. > > Credibility you have none. > > Furthermore, I don’t know about where you live but around here qualified evidence based medical establishment professionals educate the population about lifestyle changes day in day out. > > The difference between them and woo bloggers is they aren’t so pig-ignorant as to think we ordinarily breathe pure oxygen or that you can cure cancer by squirting coffee up our ass. Even if you are an avid cyclist, that doesn’t mean you are eating well. Some people, through good genetics, can get away with a lot more than the average person, while still being relatively healthy. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/69 "2015-03-20T12:37:49Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > The plural of anecdote is not data, dude. This from a person whose just _knows_ that nutrition skeptics are “the usual fat white dudes” “from arguing with them online for years”. What, the fat just seeps through your monitor? > [@get lives](#): > > They want 50 peer-reviewed studies on the health benefits of eating an apple instead of a deep-fried Oreo before they’ll actually change their diet Who has said such a thing? Can you cite a single example of a “nutrition skeptic” (whatever that entity is in your mind) who does that? Next we’ll probably get a repetition of that hoary old trope, “doctors don’t know anything about nutrition”, which translates to “doctors don’t buy my goofy theories about nutrition and supplements”. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/70 "2015-03-20T12:43:32Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I’m speaking from my own personal experience. I doubt there’s been any studies done at all. Here, let me quote somebody you may know: > [@get\_lives](#): > > The plural of anecdote is not data, dude. > [@get\_lives](#): > > But this is all irrelevant to my larger point–that skeptics on aversge probably are not as healthy as their woo counterparts. I can definitely point to some exceptions I know personally right off the bat on the woo side. However, IME, the trend exists. Cite? > [@get\_lives](#): > > Instead of asking for an impossible cite on that claim (because no such study exists, or ever will, probably), why not ask yourselves the incredibly hard question of “why”? If it’s true, what would that imply? Sorry, I have no time for hypotheticals based on some guy on the internet’s “experience”. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/71 "2015-03-20T13:04:41Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Even if you are an avid cyclist, that doesn’t mean you are eating well. Some people, through good genetics, can get away with a lot more than the average person, while still being relatively healthy. And some people just make up shit to cover the fact that they are talking out of their ass and making fools out of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/72 "2015-03-20T13:24:37Z")
You _could_ have a pure oxygen atmosphere on a plane. [You really wouldn’t want that.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1#Pure_oxygen_atmosphere) Anyone who talks about “detoxing” but cannot name any specific toxins that their “cleanse” is getting rid of is talking out of their ass. Maybe this is part of their cleanse, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/73 "2015-03-20T13:30:31Z")
Another piece of colon jewelry from the [Food Babe](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vani_Hari): > [@](#): > > In a July 2012 post (since removed), Hari quoted the ideas of Masaru Emoto, namely that microwave ovens cause water molecules to form crystals that resemble crystals exposed to negative thoughts or beliefs, such as when the words Hitler and Satan were exposed to the water.[33] Dr. Novella calls Emoto’s claims “pure pseudoscience” and states that “Hari’s conclusions about microwaves are all demonstrably incorrect and at odds with the scientific evidence.”[34] Hari has repeatedly avoided giving any scientific evidence for her claims. Be careful what you say in front of your water. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/74 "2015-03-20T13:35:05Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Be careful what you say in front of your water. Uh oh- my potty mouth is contaminating the water I drink! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/75 "2015-03-20T13:37:52Z")
So if I read _Mein Kampf_ to my microwave, it will turn into a freezer? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/76 "2015-03-20T13:39:45Z")
I don’t even think I can solve the potty mouth contamination problem by only drinking distilled water or rainwater. We’re in trouble now. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/77 "2015-03-20T14:11:58Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > I don’t even think I can solve the potty mouth contamination problem by only drinking distilled water or rainwater. We’re in trouble now. And above all, do not sing in the shower. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/78 "2015-03-20T14:28:15Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > And above all, do not sing in the shower. Good idea. My singing could probably make water curdle. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/79 "2015-03-20T14:38:02Z")
It’s OK if you then use it to make your own homemade yogurt or something. Probiotics, dontcha know. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-bimbo-wellness-blogger-found-to-be-a-fraud/715331/80 "2015-03-20T15:22:57Z")
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