See, here’s the problem with your type. You actually know very little about nutrition, much like those bloggers. And you’re loud and proud, too, like them. At least some of them recognize that there’s something severely wrong with the current allopathic model of medicine, which often ends up drugging and cutting instead of fixing things through lifestyle changes and education. Also, I’d bet a number of them (the more sincere) live quite a bit healthier than you do, and look and feel better as a result.
debunking woo doesn’t get the fat off your butt, or you off your fat butt. LOL
The plural of anecdote is not data, dude. Just because you are either
Honestly ignorant of the typical nutrition skeptic’s profile and tendencies, or
Hoping that at least one person reading your post might believe you, out of ignorance
doesn’t mean that 99 out of a hundred nutrition skeptics aren’t the usual fat white dudes. Seriously, I know the type from arguing with them online for years. They want 50 peer-reviewed studies on the health benefits of eating an apple instead of a deep-fried Oreo before they’ll actually change their diet. I’m all for skepticism, but their motivations are so transparently NOT unbiased. I feel bad for them.
Lifestyle changes can’t be made by doctors, they have to be made by the individual. You can educate people all you want, they might even listen, but at the end of the day they have to do the work. Your doctor can’t lose weight for you.
You reach a sweeping conclusion about me and my nutritional knowledge based on one throwaway line. You tell me about my fat (200km-a-week-cycling) ass. You lecture Jackmannii about strong data then offer up as support of your fundamental premise a personal anecdote.
Credibility you have none.
Furthermore, I don’t know about where you live but around here qualified evidence based medical establishment professionals educate the population about lifestyle changes day in day out.
The difference between them and woo bloggers is they aren’t so pig-ignorant as to think we ordinarily breathe pure oxygen or that you can cure cancer by squirting coffee up our ass.
I’m speaking from my own personal experience. I doubt there’s been any studies done at all.
But this is all irrelevant to my larger point–that skeptics on aversge probably are not as healthy as their woo counterparts. I can definitely point to some exceptions I know personally right off the bat on the woo side. However, IME, the trend exists.
Instead of asking for an impossible cite on that claim (because no such study exists, or ever will, probably), why not ask yourselves the incredibly hard question of “why”? If it’s true, what would that imply?
To me it implies that people who ignore the original human diet in favor of the modern American diet are doomed to fail at good health, individual exceptions aside.
It also says that skeptics, while they usually understand statistics and logic fairly well, have so little background in actual unbiased nutritional research, especially of traditional/original human diets, that they wouldn’t know how to fix their diet if they WANTED to.
And I know about the social pressure to eat unhealthily. I realize that’s a big part of why many people struggle.
Even if you are an avid cyclist, that doesn’t mean you are eating well. Some people, through good genetics, can get away with a lot more than the average person, while still being relatively healthy.
This from a person whose just knows that nutrition skeptics are “the usual fat white dudes” “from arguing with them online for years”. What, the fat just seeps through your monitor?
Who has said such a thing? Can you cite a single example of a “nutrition skeptic” (whatever that entity is in your mind) who does that?
Next we’ll probably get a repetition of that hoary old trope, “doctors don’t know anything about nutrition”, which translates to “doctors don’t buy my goofy theories about nutrition and supplements”.
Anyone who talks about “detoxing” but cannot name any specific toxins that their “cleanse” is getting rid of is talking out of their ass. Maybe this is part of their cleanse, I don’t know.