# Yet another disparity..... \[Cheney shooting\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526 "2006-02-14T20:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/101 "2006-02-16T01:14:06Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Most probably, he only wanted peace and quiet and to let things play out in terms of his friend’s well-being and care without having to contend with what would surely become a press frenzy no matter when it was reported. Cheney has a large staff. It would have been trivial for him to give an order to put a statement together. In fact, he shouldn’t even have had to give an order. His people should have come to HIM and said: “Here boss, we’ve put together a statement for the press. If you’re happy with it, we’ll send it out.” On Sunday, after he’d had a chance to compose himself, he should have held a brief press conference where he explained his carelessness and publicly apologized to Mr. Whittington. Letting it fester for five days was irresponsible and weak. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/102 "2006-02-16T01:17:45Z")
Yep, you did. So much so that I almost emailed you with an apology for overlooking a post you made to me in the ‘Goodnight, **Zoe** ’ thread and which I didn’t see till the next day. Is that why you’re puffed at me now? Cause I’m at least as utilitarian as a fencepost, you know: I can even mow lawns…although I am expecting it to get harder once the grass starts growing again. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/103 "2006-02-16T01:38:51Z")
This is from the slightly less liberal press known as the [National Review](http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200602150911.asp), founded by Conservative bulwark William Buckley: > [@](#): > > …But a failure by the vice president to answer questions about the accident might allow such speculation to grow until it does significant damage to the administration. And if that happens, it will be the result of the vice president’s failure to be forthcoming about the issue from the very start. The author of that statement (which really should be read in context) is Byron York, author of _The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy: The Untold Story of How Democratic Operatives, Eccentric Billionaires, Liberal Activists, and Assorted Celebrities Tried To Bring Down a President – And Why They’ll Try Even Harder Next Time_. He is the White House correspondent for the NRO. Even York can see that Cheney handled this with poor judgment. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/104 "2006-02-16T01:39:03Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > Cheney has a large staff. It would have been trivial for him to give an order to put a statement together. In fact, he shouldn’t even have had to give an order. His people should have come to HIM and said: “Here boss, we’ve put together a statement for the press. If you’re happy with it, we’ll send it out.” > > On Sunday, after he’d had a chance to compose himself, he should have held a brief press conference where he explained his carelessness and publicly apologized to Mr. Whittington. > > Letting it fester for five days was irresponsible and weak. Oh, I don’t know. I think you’re giving too much credit for civilized behavior to the press. If he’d had his staff make the statement, the press would have criticized him for hiding away and letting his staff make it, and he’d have been hounded and dogged (there’s one for the Department of Redundancy Department) everywhere he went. I would imagine also that in a press conference scenario the next day he’d have been peppered with accusatory questions about not only the shooting itself, but with further accusatory questions regarding the war and the administration in general, as the press would have most likely perceived that he would be in a weakened state and that they could perhaps get him to make a careless or angry comment that they could capitalize upon. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/105 "2006-02-16T01:41:00Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Sorry, but I’m afraid I’ve been involved in so many media bias arguments around here that I’m not sure which thread you’re referring to; but the thing is, **Finn** , not everything a person may say here is cite-provable. If you can point me to a definitive cite, one way or the other, that settles unequivocally the issue of media bias, I would be happy to accept it. But you can’t, because no such cite exists. There are only examples pro and con; and to me these do not constitute a ‘cite’, as the term is intended to be used: which is as proof. Thank you. The way I will take it is that in regard to subjects like this it really makes no difference as to whether a so-called cite is offered or not; as the cite itself, not being probitive, becomes its own flamebait. When the subject of bias in the media appears it is silly not to consider the consensus from a group. In other words, you are purposely ignoring were their bias is coming from: The left considers that it has to jump through many hoops just correct the mainstream bias, as for example when dealing with left bogs: > **[Is The Washington Post Online A Tool Of The Right Wing?](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/1/21/180111/-)** > > Is my title fair and balanced? We report, you decide (Faux style, with my editorial comments in brackets and italics) -- the Editor of the Washington Post Online gives an interview to HUGH HEWITT a... > [@](#): > > Is The Washington Post Online A Tool Of The Right Wing? > > Is my title fair and balanced? We report, you decide (Faux style, with my editorial comments in brackets and italics) – the Editor of the Washington Post Online gives an interview to HUGH HEWITT about how mean the Left Blogs have been to them, via atrios: > > > [@](#): > > > > Moving from an interview with the Vice President to an interview with Jim Brady, executive editor of [Washingtonpost.com](http://Washingtonpost.com), > > > > … > > > > HH: Jim Brady, you had a meltdown…A) congrats on going online today and answering your critics, and congrats for coming here. Explain to the audience what happened yesterday. > > > > JB: This actually all started on Sunday when the ombudsman of the newsman, Deborah Howell wrote a column about the Abramoff scandal, and in that column, made a reference to both Republicans and Democrats being the beneficiary of Abramoff donations. And what she should have said, and what she put up on the blog on Thursday was that he directed…he did direct contributions to Democrats, which is undeniable. **[Note from Armando - Not only is it deniable, the record is clear that Abramoff tried to direct his Native American client to NOT give money to Democrats.]** There’s lot of documents that show that. [**Note – there are NO documents that show that.] \*\* But when she wrote it in the column, it was phrased in a way that made it seem like he was personally giving money to the Democrats**[It was a factual error that the Washington Post to this day has not corrected in proper fashion]\*\*, of which there isn’t proof of that at this point [**Because Brady knows there WILL be proof soon. Yes, Deborah Howell wrote similar words.]** > > . . . > > > [@](#): > > > > HH: The central fact which seemed to upset the critics of the column, is that the Post has reported that between 1999 and 2004, Jack Abramoff’s Indian clients contributed to 195 Republicans and 88 Democrats, tens of millions of dollars to both, correct? > > > > JB: Correct. > > > > HH: And so, why do people object to your publishing that fact? > > > > JB: Well, they…they objected originally to the fact that she…that when she stated it, she made it seem as if he personally was donating to Democrats **[She did NOT make it seem, she wrote it expressly.]** But what she meant to say was that he was directing money to Democrats **[And this too is false]**, which as I said, is beyond any kind of argument **[it is beyond any argument a falsehood.]**. . . . There’s a real…this group that has been going after Deborah all week, I don’t think, would have been happy no matter what she said. But she was clear about that, we put links up that have documents that show that **[Yet again, this is simply FALSE. The documents show that some Indian tribe clients gave to Democrats, but DO NOT SHOW that Abramoff directed the contributions. Indeed, if Brady had done even a modicum of work (and I have not paid much attention to the story and I know more about it than he does), and given the appalling string of errors, it behooved him in the most compelling fashion to STOP making errors), he would know that the contributions to Dems of many of Abramoff’s Indian tribe clients went down when they retained Abramoff, at Abramoff’s EXPRESS URGING.]** > > > > HH: Jim Brady, who do you think these people are? Because I run into them in this business, but we have a six second delay, goodness knows why. Who do you think they are? Why are they so fundamentally unhappy? > > > > JB: Well, I mean in this case, there was very much a concerted effort to…when Deborah wrote her column on Sunday, a lot of the bloggers on the left side of the spectrum really…they got together and they said let’s go to the Post blog and tell them how unhappy we are with this column. > > > > HH: Was there an epicenter of that effort? > > > > JB: It looked like it was in a bunch of different blogs. I mean, it certainly was getting a lot of attention on Atrios and Daily Kos, and some other places. **[From Armando – The Deborah Howell story was NOT front paged at daily kos until the comments were shut down. Daily Kos got together with NO ONE and did nothing to the Washington Post Online and Jim Brady . . . Until now. I call Jim Brady a liar. A bald faced liar for making up this story of a concerted effort involving daily kos. That is FALSE. So I mean there did seem to be…you know, it wasn’t a campaign in the sense of a really organized campaign, but it was kind of a grass roots campaign to…** > > …. > > > [@](#): > > > > Jim Brady goes on the program of the despicable Hugh Hewitt, makes gross errors regarding the Abramoff Scandal and then flat out lies about daily kos and implicitly agrees with Hewitt’s venomous invective against daily kos all the while whining about how mean people are to the Washington Post!!! In other words, the left does not have a mainstream source that follows their lead, or have a mainstream media company that, as a consensus from the left, is considered to be “the liberal news” As Cheney just has to say “jump” to Fox and Fox replies “how high?” with only softballs thrown at him, the bias is there all right. The right has their news. The right does know were the bias is at, and when they demand action they do get it, the mainstream in turn is shamelessly trying to emulate Fox, and many times ignores the left. There is no need for a cite on the current state of bias once you consider this: The right considers outfits like FOX fair and balanced or their news. The left considers the other mainstream outfits not fair and balanced and not their news. As the cite shows, (and you can read countless other examples at Daily Kos) the mainstream is not in tune with the left, whereas the right has a way “to catapult the propaganda”, the left can only pressure the mainstream to be more accurate, that is all. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/106 "2006-02-16T01:53:53Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Yep, you did. So much so that I almost emailed you with an apology for overlooking a post you made to me in the ‘Goodnight, **Zoe** ’ thread and which I didn’t see till the next day. Is that why you’re puffed at me now? Cause I’m at least as utilitarian as a fencepost, you know: I can even mow lawns…although I am expecting it to get harder once the grass starts growing again. :dubious: I completely forgot about that [whole thread where you pitted yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342685), fishing for a pity party - I assume that’s the one to which you are referring. The last interaction I could recall [had me humorously invoking the image of Richard Dawson on the Family Feud](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=341459&page=4&pp=40) to describe you (“Show me…tool!” BING “Tool - the number one answer”). Okay, I thought it was pretty funny. See, the problem there is that in your pity party thread, your OP described a moment of self-reflection in which you gave the impression that you regretted being a fucking moron in all your posts. Go back and read it again, and see if it at all sounds familiar. Now re-read your posts here. They are exactly the same as your posts to the other thread I linked to (“The Right and its Persecution Complex”). It’s a good example of what I was saying about there being no noticeable difference in any of your posts. Rather than having grown from your moment of reflection, you seem to be pretty much back in the role of an attention-starved partisan tool with no capacity for reason or learning. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/107 "2006-02-16T01:55:09Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > I would imagine also that in a press conference scenario the next day he’d have been peppered with accusatory questions about not only the shooting itself, but with further accusatory questions regarding the war and the administration in general, as the press would have most likely perceived that he would be in a weakened state and that they could perhaps get him to make a careless or angry comment that they could capitalize upon. You’re right! That’s exactly what happened when he made his statement to Brit Hume today! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/108 "2006-02-16T02:11:36Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > The “yardstick” for measurement has been preparing the Iraqis to stand on their own. As they take over more and more of the missions and the US forces take a smaller stance, things continue to improve. And it was also pointed out in the conference that having the Iraqis running the missions is better because they can identify the foreign insurgents better than we can. Wow, yeh, it sure does look like [the Iraqis are getting more organized and competent](http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/15/insurgency.report/index.html), for sure! > [@](#): > > A few large groups using sophisticated communications increasingly have come to dominate Iraq’s insurgency, a report released Wednesday said. > > The report from the International Crisis Group, a nongovernmental organization that tries to solve conflicts, noted the insurgency “no longer is a scattered, erratic, chaotic phenomenon.” > > “Groups are well organized, produce regular publications, react rapidly to political developments and appear surprisingly centralized,” the report said. > > It noted the insurgency, a predominately Sunni Arab movement, has grown “more confident, better organized, coordinated, information-savvy.” Oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/109 "2006-02-16T02:14:20Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > I can’t believe LHOD forced me to [learn a french word](http://www.answers.com/terrine&r=67). What the Anglo-saxon version [tureen](http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=1555&dekey=T0418300&gwp=8&curtab=1555_1&linktext=tureen) wasn’t good enough for you? > > Jim You obviously don’t know much about being a pretentious knob. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/110 "2006-02-16T02:23:44Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > :dubious: I completely forgot about that [whole thread where you pitted yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342685), fishing for a pity party - I assume that’s the one to which you are referring. Nope, wrong again. I don’t recall the exact thread but it was much more recent than that. I figure you’re just pissed now because I expressed respect to **Zoe** and **Siege** , but unintentially left you out. Fortunately now, I no longer see the need for such concern. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/111 "2006-02-16T02:37:57Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nope, wrong again. I don’t recall the exact thread but it was much more recent than that. I figure you’re just pissed now because I expressed respect to **Zoe** and **Siege** , but unintentially left you out. Fortunately now, I no longer see the need for such concern. Can you not respect me too? ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/112 "2006-02-16T02:42:05Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Kiss my ass, **rayh**. > > You lose. Hey I was only half wrong, you only get one cheek kissed, and no tongue. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/113 "2006-02-16T02:47:40Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > You obviously don’t know much about being a pretentious knob. Isnt’ that the place where that famous ground hog Phil resides? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/114 "2006-02-16T02:49:53Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > When the subject of bias in the media appears it is silly not to consider the consensus from a group. In other words, you are purposely ignoring were their bias is coming from: The left considers that it has to jump through many hoops just correct the mainstream bias, as for example when dealing with left bogs: > > [http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/21/6393/16873](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/21/6393/16873) > > In other words, the left does not have a mainstream source that follows their lead, or have a mainstream media company that, as a consensus from the left, is considered to be “the liberal news” > > As Cheney just has to say “jump” to Fox and Fox replies “how high?” with only softballs thrown at him, the bias is there all right. The right has their news. The right does know were the bias is at, and when they demand action they do get it, the mainstream in turn is shamelessly trying to emulate Fox, and many times ignores the left. I agree that the points you are making here are correct; however, the reason for this state of affairs is (IMO, okay?) is decades-long liberal bias from the mainstream news media. Regarding Cheney saying ‘jump’ to Fox, I don’t recall Clinton having any trouble getting on Larry King or David Letterman’s show, and they certainly have a greater following than [dailykos.com](http://dailykos.com). > [@GIGObuster](#): > > There is no need for a cite on the current state of bias once you consider this: > > The right considers outfits like FOX fair and balanced or their news. I’m on the right and I don’t necessarily consider them fair and balanced. I do think they serve to counterbalance to a very large degree the leftward bias that has existed for decades on the part of the mainstream press. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > The left considers the other mainstream outfits not fair and balanced and not their news. > > As the cite shows, (and you can read countless other examples at Daily Kos) the mainstream is not in tune with the left, whereas the right has a way “to catapult the propaganda”, the left can only pressure the mainstream to be more accurate, that is all. I would suggest that this is because – as has been pointed out to me quite forcefully on this very board – the left itself is far less monolithic than the right, and therefore less likely to agree across the board as to what it wants than is the right. Moreover, the press has attempted until rather recently to portray itself as unaligned and unbiased, so even though it may have been supportive of and in agreement with many of the left’s positions, it couldn’t very well be obvious about it. And like I say, it’s often difficult to get everyone on the left to agree on what it wants in the first place. There are tons of things under the liberal umbrella, yet to embrace one would be to make the others feel excluded, and IMO this is likely why many on the left feel media bias doesn’t exist. It does, it’s just that the media can’t cover all liberal bases at once. The common thread though, is that the media has almost always been in the position of trying to make the right look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/115 "2006-02-16T02:54:17Z")
I’ve heard it said that the definition of insanity is repeating an action over and over again and expecting a different result. See where this is going with regard to your Pit threads, **Clothy**? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/116 "2006-02-16T03:11:07Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Even York can see that Cheney handled this with poor judgment. Poor judgement, yes; but the media’s ridiculous behavior as a result has been way beyond the pale, and IMO it’s only going to further cement the impression of media bias against the right. I have never seen this kind of angry, accusatory and baiting type of behavior on the part of the media toward any but a Republican president. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/117 "2006-02-16T03:35:15Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > See, the problem there is that in your pity party thread, your OP described a moment of self-reflection in which you gave the impression that you regretted being a fucking moron in all your posts. Go back and read it again, and see if it at all sounds familiar. Now re-read your posts here. They are exactly the same as your posts to the other thread I linked to (“The Right and its Persecution Complex”). It’s a good example of what I was saying about there being no noticeable difference in any of your posts. While of course I would disagree with your characterization of my self-pitting, I nonetheless posted it because I had gone on a tangent of pretty much indiscriminate liberal-bashing that was all over the place and beyond the pale; and I wanted to acknowledge that and to apologize. By contrast, I believe that in this thread I’ve been pretty polite, conversational and pleasant…at least that’s been my frame of mind. I find it interesting that of the many cogent comments I feel I’ve made in this thread, the vast majority of responses haven’t addressed these points but have merely insulted me instead. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/118 "2006-02-16T03:38:08Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > By contrast, I believe that in this thread I’ve been pretty polite, conversational and pleasant…at least that’s been my frame of mind. I find it interesting that of the many cogent comments I feel I’ve made in this thread, the vast majority of responses haven’t addressed these points but have merely insulted me instead. Yeah, you _would_ think that, tardo. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/119 "2006-02-16T03:42:41Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/120 "2006-02-16T03:47:28Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > The common thread though, is that the media has almost always been in the position of trying to make the right look bad. As the example showed, the media managed to be fair to the right by contorting like a pretzel. Similar behavior can be seen in the Medicare for medicines issue, or health care in general. In cases like that, the media pretends to be fair by showing the misleading points of the right vs. the points of the moderates and some times the points of the left as if they have the same value, no matter how misleading the ponits of the right are in cases like these. And there you go again ignoring the love fest of the media with the administration on the way to the Iraq war. It looks now like the media investigating if the points of the right are true is not being fair, or the mainstream conveniently has no time to check and just follow the “vox populy”… of the right wing lobbyists. That the media are whores became evident when the subjects, that needed to be uncovered in the abuse of power that was the Plame scandal, were declared to be “sources”. This then caused the media to auto-spike the exposes that were needed. This only means that we have a media that self censors when the powers that be will be affected. The shooting case of today is only the mainstream media going back to the non political “if it bleeds it leads” mode, I see this relentless reporting on Cheney as virtually having no impact on the policies of this administration. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526.md?page=7)