# Yet another disparity..... \[Cheney shooting\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526 "2006-02-14T20:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/161 "2006-02-18T02:55:30Z")
Nope. Nice try, you guys, but **Clothahump** is right on! I saw a clip of the White House press corp ridiculously going bananas over the :: shudder :: _22 hour delay_ and virtually spitting and yelling at Scott McClellan, came to the Dope to see what was being said about it and to see if anybody was ready to finally admit media bias, and lo and behold, the only person calling bullshit was a rightie… **Clothahump**. Good on ya for the OP, **Clothahump**! Couldn’t have said it better myself! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/162 "2006-02-18T03:09:29Z")
[Oh, good frickin’ grief!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/will-they-go-to-court_b_15875.html) Alec furshlugginer Baldwin says Cheney was drinking, is a terrorist, thinks Whittington is gonna sue him, and that at last his secrets will come out in court! (And people wonder why I object to this idiot telling people how to vote.) :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/163 "2006-02-18T03:48:55Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nope. Nice try, you guys, but **Clothahump** is right on! > > I saw a clip of the White House press corp ridiculously going bananas over the :: shudder :: _22 hour delay_ and virtually spitting and yelling at Scott McClellan, came to the Dope to see what was being said about it and to see if anybody was ready to finally admit media bias, and lo and behold, the only person calling bullshit was a rightie… **Clothahump**. > > Good on ya for the OP, **Clothahump**! Couldn’t have said it better myself! \_**/ {o,o} |)**) /-"-"- O RLY? The media did go bananas for Clinton delaying planes on an airport just for waiting to cut his hair (Much later it was found to be a false accusation) and then with Gore for telling people in charge of a dam to release water just for a kayaking photo shoot. (Much later found to be dubious) As for Alec, read the comments for his post, liberals do not march in lockstep but you sure march to whatever swill the right tells you. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/164 "2006-02-18T03:59:38Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Good on ya for the OP, **Clothahump**! Couldn’t have said it better myself! Well that, at least, we can agree on. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/165 "2006-02-18T04:06:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > As for Alec, read the comments for his post, liberals do not march in lockstep but you sure march to whatever swill the right tells you. That the right tells _me?_ It’s more like I’d be one of those _giving_ the orders! (They have to come from somewhere, you know.) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/166 "2006-02-18T04:18:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > \ > > …liberals do not march in lockstep but you sure march to whatever swill the right tells you. P.S.: Just to keep the record straight, I’m quite aware of this, and in fact [said so to you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7108858&postcount=114) in this very thread. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/167 "2006-02-18T04:19:18Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well that, at least, we can agree on. _snort_ ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/168 "2006-02-18T04:23:08Z")
Aaauuugghhhh… :smack: :smack: :smack: Ahem…everyone please omit the part about me marching, swill, etc., as I intended to do that myself but most embarrassingly neglected to do so. heh…heh…heh… :o ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/169 "2006-02-18T04:25:10Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > _snort_ And the award for the Most Appreciation for the Least Original and Most Predictable Insult goes to… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/170 "2006-02-18T04:27:31Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > That the right tells _me?_ It’s more like I’d be one of those _giving_ the orders! (They have to come from somewhere, you know.) 😉 “It is the fool who thinks he cannot be fooled.” -Joey Skaggs ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/171 "2006-02-18T04:38:58Z")
Oh, I can be fooled, alright! Just ask Linda, Karen, Carol… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/172 "2006-02-18T04:52:53Z")
In any case, the Cheney shooting and only wounding someone is a distraction from the most serious issues the media should be dealing with (notice how the latest Plame revelations and their connections to Cheney are conveniently buried by this?) This affair is typical for the media just going bananas for items the regular TV viewer will go for and I do think the mainstream is going all hog for this because it will not affect the policies of this administration one iota. Here is another example of what it is being ignored by the “liberal” media right now: [http://mediamatters.org/items/200601280002#1](http://mediamatters.org/items/200601280002#1) > [@](#): > > Media less assertive in covering NSA scandal than Whitewater > > …. > > The January 5, 1994, Post editorial read, in part: > > The administration has taken the position that there’s no need to name an independent counsel in the Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan case. It argues that the investigation is safely in the hands of career Justice Department attorneys, that the president and Mrs. Clinton are cooperating fully even though not directly involved and that the attorney general has no current power to appoint a fully independent counsel anyway. > > We think that’s wrong – that, murky though most aspects of this case still are, it represents precisely the kind of case in which an independent counsel ought to be appointed. We say that even though – and this should be stressed – there has been no credible charge in this case that either the president or Mrs. Clinton did anything wrong. Nevertheless, it is in the public interest – and in the president’s as well – to put the inquiry in independent hands. > > […] > > There is no way even under the best of circumstances, which don’t exist here, that a Justice Department in any administration can conduct a credible investigation involving a president to whom it is ultimately responsible. That’s what’s at issue in this matter – and why an independent figure should be named. > > Now, how has the Post’s editorial board addressed the current Bush administration domestic spying operation? > > 12/18/05: “[T]he administration appears to have taken the position that the president is entitled to ignore a clearly worded criminal law when it proves inconvenient in the war on terrorism. … FISA has been the law of the land for 2 1/2 decades. To disrupt it so fundamentally, in total secret and without seeking legislative authorization, shows a profound disregard for Congress and the laws it passes.” > 12/20/05: “The snooping appears to violate the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), but the attorney general says it doesn’t. … The administration must be forced to explain itself comprehensively, so Congress can decide how to respond.” > 1/23/06: “The most detailed legal justification to date for the National Security Agency’s warrantless domestic surveillance has emerged from the Bush administration, but the 42-page version isn’t any more convincing than its shorter predecessors. In some ways – particularly in its broad conception of presidential power in wartime – it is more disturbing.” > So, in 1994, the Post argued that there was no “credible charge … that either the president or Mrs. Clinton did anything wrong” – but called for an independent investigation anyway. > > Now, the Post argues that the Bush administration is “ignor[ing] a clearly worded criminal law,” “show[ing] a profound disregard for Congress and the laws it passes,” “appears to violate the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,” and “must be forced to explain itself comprehensively.” The Post finds the administration’s “legal justification” for the spying program unconvincing and “disturbing.” And yet the Post has not called for an independent investigation. > > Why not? > > It cannot be because the Post considers the allegations against Bush less credible than those against Clinton; the paper itself has argued exactly the opposite. It cannot be because there is no public desire for an independent investigation – there is. A January 20-22 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll found that 58 percent of Americans think a special counsel should be appointed to investigate the spying program. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/173 "2006-02-18T08:02:22Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > [Oh, good frickin’ grief!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/will-they-go-to-court_b_15875.html) Alec furshlugginer Baldwin says Cheney was drinking, is a terrorist, thinks Whittington is gonna sue him, and that at last his secrets will come out in court! > > (And people wonder why I object to this idiot telling people how to vote.) :rolleyes: Who? The actor Alec Baldwin? Why should we care what he thinks again? And has he been named the next head of NBC Nightly News? Welcome to the thread, **Starving Artist**. The topic is “OMG LIBRAL MEDIA!” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/174 "2006-02-18T14:46:06Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > Who? The actor Alec Baldwin? Why should we care what he thinks again? And has he been named the next head of NBC Nightly News? You don’t understand. **SA** is a lonely voice crying out against the Hollywood Leftist Conspiracy[sup]TM[/sup] and its nefarious plans to tell everyone what to think. No celebrities should have the unmitigated gall to use their fame in order to force their uninformed, arrogant political opinions upon an indignant public. Well, except for Charlie Daniels, he’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/175 "2006-02-18T15:02:10Z")
Now, you know I never actually said that! I hope you don’t intend to try to portray my playful jibe to you in regard to him into my actual stance, as I’ve never visited his web site nor heard anything political that he’s had to say. I did like _The Devil Went Down to Georgia_, though. 😛 P.S.: Or on second thought, did you mean to say that apart from Charlie Daniels, I’m okay? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/176 "2006-02-18T15:13:38Z")
I mean _as_ my actual stance… Must…get…shuteye…zzzzz ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/177 "2006-02-19T16:32:55Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > [Oh, good frickin’ grief!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/will-they-go-to-court_b_15875.html) Alec furshlugginer Baldwin says Cheney was drinking, is a terrorist, thinks Whittington is gonna sue him, and that at last his secrets will come out in court! > > (And people wonder why I object to this idiot telling people how to vote.) :rolleyes: Alec Baldwin? The Shadow? [Shadow tp Cheney]Did you think you’d get away with it? Did you think I wouldn’t know? Hahahahahahahahahahaha![/Shadow] Maybe Cheney had a beer or two, maybe he didn’t. The bad part is, according to what some of us read, he turned and fired without looking to make sure it was safe. That is stupid (as I said in the other Cheney thread). As an experienced hunter, he knew better than to do that. It was careless and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/178 "2006-02-20T09:16:38Z")
I’m still waiting for some Clot response to my authorative cites that prove he is talking out of his ass regarding the progress of the reconstruction effort. Either that or a formal retraction of his accusation of media bias concerning the hiding of the non-existent good news. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/179 "2006-02-20T14:36:23Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > I’m still waiting for some Clot response to my authorative cites that prove he is talking out of his ass regarding the progress of the reconstruction effort. > > Either that or a formal retraction of his accusation of media bias concerning the hiding of the non-existent good news. Would you like a pony too? Maybe a flying pig or a snowball in hades? ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526/180 "2006-02-20T14:47:57Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Would you like a pony too? Maybe a flying pig or a snowball in hades? Already got a pony, thanks. It’s somewhere in that big pile of horseshit i’m told. On my planet - the one with the blue sky and green grass - someone proven so comprehensively wrong, someone proven so incredibly stupid, someone with such a demonstrable lack of grasp on reality - would either offer a humble mea culpa or slink away for months if not years. I hear oinks and the beating of wings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-disparity-cheney-shooting/344526.md?page=10)