# Yet another "hate crime" revealed to be a hoax by a leftist

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 5, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957 "2017-05-05T23:01:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/101 "2017-05-09T15:41:36Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> And you know this how? As I said, the fact that there are so many hoaxes (and yes, there are SO many - a couple would be an aberration, but if I can easily google you a hundred of them, that’s systematic. And that’s a hundred that WERE found out. How many weren’t?) should give you pause. Should. Of course it doesn’t. You just handwave them away.

Yes, you’re right, I don’t _baselessly assume_ that hate crimes investigated and listed by the FBI are hoaxes. I suppose accepting the official figures and studies on the matter is “handwaving”. Then again, if your claims were made up of anything but clouds and dreams, it would be harder to wave them away. Some hate crimes are hoaxes. But you’re going from “some hate crimes are hoaxes” to “therefore every hate crime is suspect, and there are probably far more hoaxes than are reported”. Which is fucking stupid reasoning. I wonder if you feel the same way about rape. Or theft. Just for comparison, 25% of auto thefts reported are insurance scams.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/102 "2017-05-09T16:32:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Bacon without the sprouts is even more awesome.
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> BACON

Harvard did a study a while back and it turns out that you can’t just eat bacon. so what you should do is wrap a well balanced diet in bacon and eat it. It doesn’t have to be brussel sprouts, it can be donuts too.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/103 "2017-05-09T16:41:02Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> We should. But the OP doesn’t do that. He throws in a bunch of lies. The purpose of the post is not to be outraged put to spread propaganda and to attack liberals. Because that’s the only reason they are on this board.
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> If the OP was more “I don’t care which side you are on, this is bad,” I’d be inclined to agree, and I’m sure that no one would argue.
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> Hell, I’d go further and call these false flag people homophobes. They put this up without regard to how it would hurt all the other people who would think it was real.
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> It’s the same thing I claimed about Pewdiepie and his “Death to Jews” bullshit. Yeah, he may not really believe it, and was just testing to see how bad the stuff was that he could get them to say. But it still shows antisemitism, because he didn’t stop to think how it would hurt others.
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> Unfortunately, I can’t do that here. Because Okrahoma has made this a way to attack liberals, and, of course, I’m gonna defend an unfair attack on liberals.

The rationalization and excuse making started in post 2. So I am looking at the Op and I don’t see the lie. Can you point it out for me?

Or do you object to the fact that Okrahoma is pointing to dozens of false flag incidents and calling that “many” or “yet another one”? because that seems like a difference of opinion about what the word “many” means.

AFAICT, there are more false flag events since Trump became the nominee than during Obama’s entire administration. So I think its reasonable to say “Hey Leftists, stop this false flag bullshit!!!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/104 "2017-05-09T16:49:41Z")

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Pursuant to my authority as Queen of Romania, I hereby command all leftists to cease and desist this “false flag bullshit”! Tremble and obey!

There. Happy now?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/105 "2017-05-09T16:50:55Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> And you know this how? As I said, the fact that there are so many hoaxes (and yes, there are SO many - a couple would be an aberration, but if I can easily google you a hundred of them, that’s systematic. And that’s a hundred that WERE found out. How many weren’t?) should give you pause. Should. Of course it doesn’t. You just handwave them away.

Hundreds out of how many?

Can we say that hundreds of cases of police brutality against blacks means there is a systemic problem with police brutality against blacks?

Can we say that hundreds of cases of really fucking racist Republicans means that there is a systemic problem with racism among Republicans?

Can we say that Trump lying hundreds of times between winning the election and today means there is a systemic problem with Trump’s relationship with the truth?

Don’t you need some context? How many hate crimes and how many of them are hoaxes since Trump won the election and what was the proportion of hoaxes BEFORE Trump became the nominee?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-hate-crime-revealed-to-be-a-hoax-by-a-leftist/785957/106 "2017-05-09T16:52:29Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> I make a faux mashed potatoes using cauliflower. It has butter, heavy cream, and cream cheese in it. The cauliflower functions mainly as a fat delivery system. It excels in that.

I did that back when I had a blood sugar issue. It wasn’t bad and I would still eat it if it wasn’t so much trouble compared to instant mash potatoes.

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