# Yet Another Movie That Might Change Your Life ... or At Least Make You Think **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 7, 2001, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069 "2001-03-07T06:17:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FriendofGod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@FriendofGod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendofGod)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/1 "2001-03-07T06:17:14Z")
Not to turn Great Debates into Movie Reviews, but it just so happens that in the space of 1 month, three Christian movies have been released which is rather unheard of. And a fourth is on the way in several more weeks! I wanted to make you guys aware of what’s out there, especially for those of you who might be curious about investigating Christianity further. For the record the movies I am speaking of are as follows: Left Behind: The Movie from Cloud Ten Pictures (the subject of my last thread of a similar title) Judgment from Cloud Ten Pictures Carman the Champion from 8X Pictures Road to Redemption from WorldWide Pictures I spent the last thread on LB: The Movie, and I haven’t seen Road to Redemption (it will be out in a few weeks). I just saw Carman the Champion tonight and found it to be surprisingly good. For those who don’t know Carman is a very popular Christian artist, and to be honest I didn’t expect him to know how to act. He did a good job, and the story was interesting! I’d recommend it. But that’s not the movie I want to talk about in this thread. The one I want to talk about is “JUDGMENT”, a new movie from Cloud Ten Pictures. It’s only available on video now, but I think they plan on a theatrical release at some point in the future. It should be at video rental stores at some point too. The web address is [http://www.judgment-themovie.com](http://www.judgment-themovie.com). Why do I want to highlight and bring up this movie on this message board? One reason. The central plot is a trial set in the future in which God is the defendant. In this trial, God is accused of many of the exact same things I’ve heard Him accused of on this very message board. It is one of the better acted and thought provoking Christian films I’ve seen. It’s an intelligent film and doesn’t talk down to you. In all honestly, I like it quite a bit better than Left Behind. I think even some of you skeptics would find it interesting to see many of the arguments against God laid out in a courtroom setting, and see how those involved respond. It has several twists and turns that are good. So anyway, while I realize this isn’t really a “Great Debate”, it’s about a movie that _contains_ a great debate, and it is proselytizing 😉 so I figured this was the place for it. I hope you guys check it out, and I’d be genuinely curious what some of you think, pro or con. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/2 "2001-03-07T07:22:47Z")
Origionally I was just going to roll my eyes. But I figured I should follow the link first. Mr. T is in the movie. **Mr. T is in the movie.** **MR. T IS IN THE MOVIE.** I pity the fool who doesn’t see this movie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/3 "2001-03-07T07:31:58Z")
A synopsis from the Judgment-the-movie’s web site. (I believe this qualifies as fair use.) > [@](#): > > Good vs. Evil. It’s a colossal battle as old as eternity itself. But this time it’s going to court… > > Mitch Kendrick (Corbin Bernsen) is a respected lawyer troubled by his lost faith and haunted by the memory of his deceased father. To make matters worse, he is visited by his ex-lover and O.N.E. (One Nation Earth) Prosecotor Victoria Thorne (Jessica Steen), who makes him an offer he can’t refuse. He’s ordered to defend the Christian resister Helen Hannah (Leigh Lewis), who has been indicted on charges of hatred against humanity, or face the wrath of Franco Macalousso (Nick Mancuso), Supreme Leader of O.N.E. > > A reluctant Kendrick accepts the case only to find that the entire proceeding has been rigged and his client will be found guilty regardless of his defense. Outraged at Victoria for her deception and frustrated by Helen’s unwillingness to denounce her beliefs, he decides that the only way to uncover the real truth is to put God himself on trial! > > Kendrick proposes this to Macalousso, who likes the idea of putting his eternal nemesis on trial for all the world to see. God himself is on trial for crimes against humanity… it’s simply too good to be true. He allows Mitch to proceed even though Vicky is against the idea. > > Meanwhile, J.T. Quincy (Mr. T) rages against the unjust trial of Helen Hannah. A man of action and tried _sic_ of the passive resistence of his fellow Christians, he’s determined to strike a blow against the evil of Macalousso. Quincy plots a daring escape plan to break Helen out that is fraught with danger and enlists the help of some not-so-faithful friends. > > But as Kendrick slowly unveils the truth throughout the trial, he not only experiences a personal epiphany but is also made aware of the deceitful lies and evil machinations that Macalousso uses to control the world. > > Suspense mounts as these perilous events close in on themselves and the world waits breathlessly for the supreme court’s final JUDGMENT. ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/4 "2001-03-07T07:36:42Z")
Ok, first Kirk Cameron and now Mr. T?!? Does Cloud Ten Pictures have some sort of contract with the _Home for Retired Washed-Up Television Stars of the 1980s_? What’s next? Tina Yothers as _Mary Magdalene_? ---
**Author:** ![FriendofGod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@FriendofGod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendofGod)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/5 "2001-03-07T07:53:40Z")
Thanks for posting the synopsis flowbark! > [@](#): > > Ok, first Kirk Cameron and now Mr. T?!? Does Cloud Ten Pictures have some sort of contract with the Home for Retired Washed-Up Television Stars of the 1980s? > > What’s next? Tina Yothers as Mary Magdalene? LOL! I thought the same thing when I saw Mr. T. Hey how about Lee Majors as John the Apostle? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/6 "2001-03-07T08:03:26Z")
Boner from Family Ties as Judas Iscariot! ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/7 "2001-03-07T08:08:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*Boner from Family Ties as Judas Iscariot! \*\* Boner was from _Growing Pains_. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/8 "2001-03-07T08:11:41Z")
Ok. I’ll see it just as soon as you see “The Rapture” and “Last Temptation of Christ”. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/9 "2001-03-07T09:09:26Z")
Strangely, I am ashamed to have made that mistake. ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/10 "2001-03-07T09:14:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*Strangely, I am ashamed to have made that mistake. \*\* It’s ok, Badtz. At least you remembered the character’s name–we won’t revoke your _1980s Nostalgia Club_ membership just yet! ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/11 "2001-03-07T09:19:39Z")
Personally I’m waiting for “Dungeons & Dragons.” I’m sure it’ll change my life as well. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/12 "2001-03-07T09:50:20Z")
Well, should I ever feel the need to be witnessed to, I’ll keep this in mind. No offense, but it’s probably best if all you don’t hold your breath, though. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/13 "2001-03-07T10:37:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Personally I’m waiting for “Dungeons & Dragons.” I’m sure it’ll change my life as well. I sure hope you’re kidding… ::ahem:: Frankly, the only movie that’s changed my life has been _Star Wars_. I leave it to the reader to figure out WHY it’s changed my life, and it what manner. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/14 "2001-03-07T13:45:23Z")
Our local weekly has a [brief preview](http://www.auschron.com/film/pages/movies/22404.html) of “Carman: The Champion.” > [@](#): > > Not reviewed at press time. 8X, the makers of the Christian-themed apocalypse movie The Omega Code, follow up that indie sensation with this new inspirational film starring award-winning gospel star Carman. The story features Carman as a retired cruiserweight champion-turned-preacher who is blackmailed back into the ring to save his father’s dream of creating an inner-city youth center. It sounds like it’ll have all the heart and perserverence of Rocky, although it bills the fight sequences as “Raging Bull in color.” My guess is more like “raging bull by the shovelful.” I see the reviewer has some experience with the genre. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/15 "2001-03-07T14:54:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Personally I’m waiting for “Dungeons & Dragons.” I’m sure it’ll change my life as well. > > Esprix \*\* It sure will. It will make you blind. Because I can assure you that after watching thirty minutes of “Dungeons and Dragons,” you will be motivated to gouge your own eyes out so you don’t have to watch the rest. Getting back to “Judgement,” am I the only one who’s sick and tired of these Cloud Ten bozos and their ilk mixing “One World Government Conspiracy” (which we all know really means Evil Jews) crappola in with their religious messages? I can take a religious message, but the endless U.N./ZOG conspiracy stuff gets old fast. Maybe Cloud Ten could reach more people if they didn’t surround their religious messages with stupid conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/16 "2001-03-07T15:06:36Z")
Arnie Becker defending God? Maybe they can get Perseus and Lori Partrige for the next movie. ---
**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/17 "2001-03-07T16:22:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by FriendofGod \* > I wanted to make you guys aware of what’s out there, especially for those of you who might be curious about investigating Christianity further. Hmmm, I wasn’t aware there was a shortage of information! Where I live, everytime you turn around you smack into a church or a billboard proclaiming “Coming Soon! King Jesus!” (as an aside, in Tuscaloosa there used to be a billboard saying exactly that - with a cartoon blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus! oh it was to laugh!) > [@](#): > > For those who don’t know Carman is a very popular Christian artist, and to be honest I didn’t expect him to know how to act. He did a good job, and the story was interesting! I’d recommend it. I’d be interested in seeing how he acts, since he is certainly not a very good musician/singer/rapper. When I watched his Christian rap video while channel flipping, I cringed in absolute pain. No lie! > [@](#): > > Why do I want to highlight and bring up this movie on this message board? One reason. The central plot is a trial set in the future in which God is the defendant. In this trial, God is accused of many of the exact same things I’ve heard Him accused of on this very message board. It is one of the better acted and thought provoking Christian films I’ve seen. It’s an intelligent film and doesn’t talk down to you. You say that they use a lot of the same arguments found on this board - and apparently, in your mind, they come up with some sound rebuttals. If that’s the case, spare us all spending our $7 and just let us know what fabulous answers they came up with - somehow I’m doubting that this film is going to revolutionize Christian apologetics. > [@](#): > > I think even some of you skeptics would find it interesting to see many of the arguments against God laid out in a courtroom setting, and see how those involved respond. Geez, if money can get a criminal off the hook in court, imagine what being the Almighty can get you! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/18 "2001-03-07T16:23:18Z")
_OBSOLETE! OBSOLETE!_ Sigh… where’s Burgess Meredith when you need him. ---
**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/19 "2001-03-07T16:31:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Tim \* > Mr. T is in the movie. > **Mr. T is in the movie.** > **MR. T IS IN THE MOVIE.** > > I pity the fool who doesn’t see this movie. 😃 \*\* The Tim, damn you! Damn you to hell! You know I got a weakness for [the T](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=61125). FriendofGod, with all due respect, I highly doubt any of these movies you are promoting will “change the lives” of anyone who is not already conditioned to endure this pap in the name of their faith. I’m still giggling over Washington Post critic Desson Howe’s review of “Left Behind”, so I can’t wait to see what he does with this one. Only 9 spots left on his Worst Movie of the Year list! Can Cloud Ten productions take all the top spots? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2001, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069/20 "2001-03-07T18:21:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by magdalene \* > FriendofGod, with all due respect, I highly doubt any of these movies you are promoting will “change the lives” of anyone who is not already conditioned to endure this pap in the name of their faith. Oh, I disagree with that – I’m sure that if I were to see any of the movies that **FoG** has been advocating, _my_ life would definitely change; I’d be _even more determined_ that my atheistic lifestyle is the right one, because I wouldn’t be supporting poorly-written tripe like _Left Behind_ etc. But I’m trying to stay civil whenever I meet moroni^H^H^H^H^H^H Christian fundamentalists, so I better not go see those movies… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-movie-that-might-change-your-life-or-at-least-make-you-think/57069.md?page=2)