# Yet another reason to Pit the NRA - no taggants in gunpowder

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 18, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031 "2013-04-18T13:03:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/481 "2013-05-05T19:49:19Z")

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> [@mske](#):
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> Spouting your usual keyboard pseudo-intellectual crap again. Offer a stance. I’ve seen this for too long.

He did. Elvis is the one clinging to the cliff by his fingernas.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/482 "2013-05-05T20:58:04Z")

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**John** , do you ever get slightly bothered by the nagging feeling that you might be missing something?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/483 "2013-05-05T22:11:48Z")

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Posting from my iPhone I misses an “il” in that last post but other than that, no. Thanks for asking, though.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/484 "2013-05-05T22:31:37Z")

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> [@mske](#):
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> Spouting your usual keyboard pseudo-intellectual crap again. Offer a stance. I’ve seen this for too long.

Don’t have to read 'em. Won’t worry me any.

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**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/485 "2013-05-06T01:06:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Don’t have to read 'em. Won’t worry me any.

True. You’re like pigeon shit on a statue. You wish it wasn’t there but accept that it is.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/486 "2013-05-06T01:31:13Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Know what? **This thread isn’t really about taggants.** It’s about seeing just how strong the reflex reactions are among the gunstroking crowd. It’s about seeing just how small an advance might be toward reducing murders, or catching murderers, before they hear the bell ringing and start yapping.
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> And it’s been illustrative - the answer is “anything at all”. There is no limit at all to their willingness to help murderers go free as long as they use anything even remotely and trivially associatable with their gun fetish. No limit whatsoever - it’s a blank spot on their moral map, the reflex reaction overcomes any such thought process they might otherwise be capable of. If you’re not saddened by that you should be.

I am returning this post to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name on it. You should take better care of your password. 😃

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/487 "2013-05-06T12:36:27Z")

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Speaking of missing something …

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/488 "2013-05-07T21:00:36Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Know what? This thread isn’t really about taggants. It’s about seeing just how strong the reflex reactions are among the gunstroking crowd. It’s about seeing just how small an advance might be toward reducing murders, or catching murderers, before they hear the bell ringing and start yapping.
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> And it’s been illustrative - the answer is “anything at all”. There is no limit at all to their willingness to help murderers go free as long as they use anything even remotely and trivially associatable with their gun fetish. No limit whatsoever - it’s a blank spot on their moral map, the reflex reaction overcomes any such thought process they might otherwise be capable of. If you’re not saddened by that you should be.

Of course it isn’t. One it was proved that taggants wouldn’t have been the tiniest help in this case, the goalposts must be moved, unless someone has the balls to say ala Emily Littela “_Never Mind_”.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/489 "2013-05-07T23:49:17Z")

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You know who else moved the goalposts?

The NFL.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/490 "2013-05-08T00:47:48Z")

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For reference, here is the OP in its entirety:

> [@](#):
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> Yet another reason to Pit the NRA - no taggants in gunpowder  
> And so it’s impossible to track the gunpowder in the Boston Marathon bombs.
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> Thanks, NRA, for freedom.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/491 "2013-05-08T04:01:03Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Know what? This thread isn’t really about taggants. It’s about seeing just how strong the reflex reactions are among the gunstroking crowd. It’s about seeing just how small an advance might be toward reducing murders, or catching murderers, before they hear the bell ringing and start yapping.
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> And it’s been illustrative - the answer is “anything at all”. There is no limit at all to their willingness to help murderers go free as long as they use anything even remotely and trivially associatable with their gun fetish. No limit whatsoever - it’s a blank spot on their moral map, the reflex reaction overcomes any such thought process they might otherwise be capable of. If you’re not saddened by that you should be.

The irony of this post is off the scale. And this is my industrial strength SDMB irony detector we are talking about. Thanks for the laugh man…this is comedy gold! 😛

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/492 "2013-05-08T12:54:08Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> taggants wouldn’t have been the tiniest help in this case

You’re still under the misapprehension that the issue is only about this case, aren’t you?

Try rereading and maybe it’ll sink in. Or maybe not.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/493 "2013-05-08T12:57:34Z")

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This thread is truly about waffles and once the rest of you realize it, you’ll apologize to Elvis.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/494 "2013-05-08T18:31:42Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> This thread is truly about waffles and once the rest of you realize it, you’ll apologize to Elvis.

I like waffles. Can I substitute strawberrys for the taggants? 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/495 "2013-05-08T19:33:23Z")

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Move quickly. Strawberries are regulated by the Ag Dept., which we are given to understand means they will be banned quite soon. Of course, if you cannot instantly tell a _fragaria virginiana_ from a _fragaria chiloensis_, you could not possibly have an opinion worth hearing.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/496 "2013-05-08T21:32:22Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Move quickly. Strawberries are regulated by the Ag Dept., which we are given to understand means they will be banned quite soon. Of course, if you cannot instantly tell a _fragaria virginiana_ from a _fragaria chiloensis_, you could not possibly have an opinion worth hearing.

It would be more like wanting to ban fragaria virginiana but not fragaria chiloensis because some crazy person used fragaria virginiana to poison little children.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/497 "2013-05-09T00:00:02Z")

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Well, that’s a pretty bad analogy, seeing as how its practically impossible to poison a child with a strawberry. So not the same sort of thing as shooting with a gun. Pretty sure we’ve established that point.

Still, i’m glad you didn’t go with “The only defense from a bad man with a strawberry is a good man with a gun.”

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/498 "2013-05-09T00:12:44Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I like waffles. Can I substitute strawberrys for the taggants? 😉

No, they change the taggants per batch. So buy up the strawberry ones, because the next batch might have the brussel sprout taggants.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/499 "2013-05-09T03:24:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, that’s a pretty bad analogy, **seeing as how its practically impossible to poison a child with a strawberry**. So not the same sort of thing as shooting with a gun. Pretty sure we’ve established that point.
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> Still, i’m glad you didn’t go with “The only defense from a bad man with a strawberry is a good man with a gun.”

How about strawberrys WITH taggants? Would they be considered safe? Would they be difficult to remove?  
“_The only defense from a bad guy with Franken Berry is a good guy with Count Chocula_.”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-reason-to-pit-the-nra-no-taggants-in-gunpowder/656031/500 "2013-05-09T03:58:48Z")

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_Fragraria vaginiana_, did you say?

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