Yet another reason to Pit the NRA - no taggants in gunpowder

No. The NRA once did, back in 1999. I disagree that even that was vociferous or resolute. But since 1999, they haven’t said shit about the issue.

How can an organization that hasn’t said a blessed thing about an issue in thirteen years be at all said to “vociferously and resolutely” have any opinion on that issue?

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

You don’t know shit about gunpowder.

The ratio of ingredients used in firearms gunpowder is dramatically different from fireworks powder. It’s not just the “diverse ingredients.” It’s the basic formulation of the powder itself. It is absolutely false to say, " Fireworks are made up of gunpowder and diverse ingredients." They both use powder. But batteries and household current are both “electricity.” The comparisons that can be made between them are limited.

There is no reason the NRA would or should care about fireworks powder – the only reason you imagine they would is because of your vast ignorance on the subject and inability to understand the differences between the substances.

Wow.

You seriously imagined that fireworks use the same substance as the stuff that makes bullets fly out of a barrel, didn’t you?

According to this page:

Doesn’t sound hugely different.

But I’m not a fireworks guy and have never fired a cannon.

By the way, Bricker, since you believe that people are guilty of supporting whatever they don’t post against and decry, you should go to the Benghazi thread and take a stand on whichever side makes the most sense to you. Chop chop, otherwise we’ll assume you side with **adaher **and he’s making conservatives look even worse than you do.

Stripping away the gossamer threads of distraction in your posts: the NRA opposed taggants in gunpowder n 1998. And to say that they haven’t said anything since is lawyerese for not having changed their stance. Hence, however vociferous they may or not be, they are on record and remain so. Remain so being the operative words. As in not having changed one’s position.

And if their position was, as we aver, largely responsible for the failure of taggant laws to come to be, and that position has not changed, then it is entirely reasonable to place responsibility on that position.

Here my cite. Where’s yours?

Wouldn’t make any difference if I did, since we are talking about making bombs. Doesn’t bother me you think I’m stupid, find it rather convenient, frankly.

It may help to remember that the original impetus to gunpowder taggants was related entirely to their application as bomb material, as outlined in this article:

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950502&slug=2118763

Tag Explosives To Trace Bombs? Nra, Others Blocked Research

Why? Well what else but…

I suggest that the political clout of the NRA is very much on display here. You may wish to lay the blame elsewhere, perhaps the League of Women Voters, or ACORN. Maybe CASA.

Who is this “we”? Those who only have a case by imposing a ridiculously narrow and pointless limit on what they will deign to acknowledge as relevant? That’s a **Bricker **tactic. You should be ashamed.

All those who are discussing something. In other words, everyone but you.

I am not going to get into this argument, the only reason I’m posting is because I made corned black powder this weekend. I understand that I could refine it further, with less risk.

Waves at the HLS folks. Everything I learned was from Cowboy role players. I’m not going to refine it, but the powder worked very well in my flintlock.

Hahahaha. Yes, as far as you are concerned, cottage cheese is used in fireworks and has added taggants for safety and identification. You’re a hoot. Your limited understanding of black powder presents little threat of you being able to “educate” anyone on the subject.

*A 1980 report by congressional investigators called taggants “useful law enforcement tools against terrorists,” but also urged more study to settle the safety questions.

The report, by the Office of Technology Assessment, predicted the safety research could be completed in time to require the markers in explosives by 1984.

Instead, Congress cut off all spending on the taggant program*…

What’s this? There were “safety questions” about the use of taggants? Taggants weren’t considered safe to use? What a surprise.

Whos funding did Congress cut off? Was a government agency developing taggants using taxpayer money
or
was a private company told they couldn’t use THEIR OWN MONEY to research taggants?

FYI - No one is preventing you from developing or researching your own taggants. Not even the NRA.

According to your linked article:
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) began developing taggants in 1974. Each chip, about the size of a grain of sand, carries a microscopic color code that shows where and when the explosives were made. They can be gathered with magnets or viewed with fluorescent light.

Wow, taggants can be gathered magnets and fluorescent lights. That must come as quite a shock to you. Are you assuming that taggants that can be collected with magnets and fluorescent lights AFTER an explosion could NOT be found using magnets and fluorescent lights DURING the bomb making process? :smack: