# Yet another Star Wars thread: Best-Worst **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002 "2005-05-22T22:53:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/21 "2005-05-23T21:47:54Z")
The Revenge of the Sith Empire Strikes Back A New Hope The Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones Return of the Jedi I know, I know. But its true. Actually the first two are tied, and the second two are tied, and the last two are tied as well. I guess I’m easy to please. Either that or really indecisive. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/22 "2005-05-23T21:57:57Z")
Empire Strikes Back A New Hope Revenge of the Sith Return of the Jedi Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones I would’ve put _Menace_ last yesterday, but _Clones_ was on Fox last night; man, I forgot how bad that was. Maybe I was just spoiled from having seen _Sith_ so recently, so I should probably rewatch _Menace_ and see what I think then. Of course, that would involve watching _The Phantom Menace_. . . ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_Chuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/76d3ee/32.png) [@Patty\_Chuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_Chuck)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/23 "2005-05-25T17:12:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Jedi is my favourite. Although I keep changing my mind. I think we had this converstion before, but…in case we didn’t: Jedi suffers from far too many problems for it to be considered the best of the OT. The only saving grace is the Emperor/Vader/Luke triangle and the space battle over Endor. Anything that happens on Endor is a terrible miscalculation and a slap in the face to anyone who loves the series (I’m not implying that you don’t like the series…). If we are to believe that the Emperor’s well trained garrison of Storm troopers were defeated by freaking teddy bears…with primitive weapons to boot…it’s a sad day for the galaxy. Think about it…these are decendents of the original clone troopers. These guys are the ones who carried out “Order 66”. You mean to tell me that 100 or so Ewoks and tops 35-50 Rebel fighters could defeat a garrison of these well trained soliders?! Also along the same lines is when the Rebels blow up the shield generator for the Death Star…Han, Leia, the droids, and anyone in the blast radius would be incinerated. However, we see Han run 15 feet away and plop down behind a stump. Ugh! Besides that, Mark Hamill almost kills the entire thing by overacting once he gets hit with Force lighting. Look at Samuel L. Jackson for the proper way to act when getting nailed with Force lighting…not Hamill’s craptastic performance. Another thing that always bugs me is when Obi Wan meets with Luke on Dagobah and he sits down. Is it really that tiring to be a ghost to sit down… And don’t get me started on Luke and Leia’s chat before Luke heads off toconfront Vader… ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/24 "2005-05-25T17:24:44Z")
Apologies for hijacking. > [@Patty & Chuck](#): > > If we are to believe that the Emperor’s well trained garrison of Storm troopers were defeated by freaking teddy bears…with primitive weapons to boot…it’s a sad day for the galaxy. The Ewoks weren’t really defeating the stormtroopers, they were DISTRACTING them and getting them away from the door. > [@](#): > > Think about it…these are decendents of the original clone troopers. These guys are the ones who carried out “Order 66”. You mean to tell me that 100 or so Ewoks and tops 35-50 Rebel fighters could defeat a garrison of these well trained soliders?! We’ve got no proof that the stormtroopers are still clones. I’m personally rather disinclined to believe it. We don’t know exactly how many Ewoks there were, or how big the garrison was.l > [@](#): > > Also along the same lines is when the Rebels blow up the shield generator for the Death Star…Han, Leia, the droids, and anyone in the blast radius would be incinerated. However, we see Han run 15 feet away and plop down behind a stump. Ugh! Well, by that logic, the entire forest moon would have been consumed in the explosion of the Death Star so… > [@](#): > > And don’t get me started on Luke and Leia’s chat before Luke heads off to confront Vader… Worst. Scene. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/25 "2005-05-25T17:25:51Z")
Revenge of the Sith: 10 Attack of the Clones: 9 Empire Strikes Back : 9 The Phantom Menace: 7.1 A New Hope: 7 Return of the Jedi: 7 ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_Chuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/76d3ee/32.png) [@Patty\_Chuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_Chuck)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002/26 "2005-05-26T04:15:37Z")
> [@Orual](#): > > The Ewoks weren’t really defeating the stormtroopers, they were DISTRACTING them and getting them away from the door. We’re arguing semantics here. The Ewoks were directly responsible for the defeat of the Emperor’s “highly trained garrison”. > [@](#): > > We’ve got no proof that the stormtroopers are still clones. I’m personally rather disinclined to believe it. We don’t know exactly how many Ewoks there were, or how big the garrison was. I said “descendents”. This squad of troopers comes from a line of troopers that exterminated the Jedi. I never meant to imply that they were still all clones, although they could be. I realize there were Imperial Academies throughout the galaxy, most notably on Corellia. Yet, I still feel as if most troopers were clones, and the humans…non-clones…were put into Officer training and what not. Just a pet theory. > [@](#): > > Well, by that logic, the entire forest moon would have been consumed in the explosion of the Death Star so… Sure. Yet, all I’m saying really is the editing is sloppy on that scene. And that sloppy editing takes me out of the film. I soon am not in a galaxy far, far away…but rather fully aware that I am yawning and looking at my wrist watch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-star-wars-thread-best-worst/305002.md?page=1)