# Yet Another Vote & Run Coward **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 9, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551 "2010-04-09T16:53:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/21 "2010-04-09T18:33:47Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Actually, it doesn’t, potentially in a few different ways. Yes, it makes for a different Congressional race. But if what **flickster** wants is for Stupak to face the infuriated voters and lose, his retirement has the same net result: no more Stupak. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/22 "2010-04-09T19:33:13Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > Qualifier; the GOP may be spent politically, but there is a serious conservative groundswell in this country that the left side of the aisle would do well to pay attention to. You can call them nutters if you want, and you may even be right, but don’t discount them; doing so could have disasterous consequences. This crap just annoys me. This idea of a “groundswell” is just silly. There are over 300 million people in this country and for the tea party “movement” to actually be a movement i would expect at least 10% of the population to be involved. Are their 30million TP’ers? Uh, no. A few thousand people yelling about shit they dont understand isn’t a movement to me. And any attempt to call them that lends them a legitimacy they dont deserve. fuck em all. racists dumbasses the lot of 'em. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/23 "2010-04-09T21:25:20Z")
**Dob** , I agree with you somewhat but also agree that these people should not be ignored – because the Republicans sure won’t in their attempts to use anything the can the rouse the rabble in November, and we already know they (TPs & Rs) belong in using fear. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/24 "2010-04-09T22:48:08Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > Clueless as to who this is, and care less. So you’re clueless about the content of your own OP, and you don’t care to know. Gotcha. I will treat you with the appropriate respect in the future. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/25 "2010-04-09T23:13:10Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So you’re clueless about the content of your own OP, and you don’t care to know. > > Gotcha. > > I will treat you with the appropriate respect in the future. My Link was the this headlined article > [@](#): > > Rep. Bart Stupak won’t seek reelection If you wants to cry about me not being able to focus on the following paragraph buried within, let me get a towel for you > [@](#): > > “After selling his soul to Nancy Pelosi, it appears that Bart Stupak finally found the courage to tell her no," said Ken Spain, communications director of the National Republican Congressional Committee. “The political fallout over the Democrats’ government takeover of health care has put the political careers of many Democrats in jeopardy, thanks in part to Stupak’s decision to abandon his alleged pro-life principles.” In reality, Stupak just happens to be today’s poster child. My beef is with Congressmen who somehow think they are insulated from having to justify their actions/voting records to their constituents. I’m all for Obama’s directive for Congress to return home and sell the program during recess. Instead, the vast majority have done anything but. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/26 "2010-04-09T23:33:10Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > I’m all for Obama’s directive for Congress to return home and sell the program during recess. Instead, the vast majority have done anything but. How many is a ‘vast majority’ in this case: 2/3, 1/3, 7/8, 3/16ths, 10? ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/27 "2010-04-09T23:42:43Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How many is a ‘vast majority’ in this case: 2/3, 1/3, 7/8, 3/16ths, 10? [Recess Activities](http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100408/D9EUO7801.html) While not exactly from a MSM source, it appears to me to fair assessment of how recess has gone ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/28 "2010-04-09T23:50:50Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > [Recess Activities](http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100408/D9EUO7801.html) > [@](#): > > Your link: > Tough votes for Obama’s health care plan have further complicated the re-election prospects of dozens of already vulnerable freshman and second-term Democrats so maybe 3 dozen, or 36 Democrats. [House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote](http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/21/health.care.main/index.html) 36/219 = 0.164 3/16 = 0.1875 So generously, 3/16ths is your idea of a ‘vast majority’. I like my vast majorities a little larger than that, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/29 "2010-04-09T23:58:28Z")
I’m rather baffled by this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/30 "2010-04-10T00:01:26Z")
> [@Dob](#): > > This crap just annoys me. This idea of a “groundswell” is just silly. There are over 300 million people in this country and for the tea party “movement” to actually be a movement i would expect at least 10% of the population to be involved. Are their 30million TP’ers? Uh, no. A few thousand people yelling about shit they dont understand isn’t a movement to me. And any attempt to call them that lends them a legitimacy they dont deserve. > > fuck em all. racists dumbasses the lot of 'em. Furthermore, trying to “work with” them won’t help, as they won’t be satisfied by anything other than complete submission by the dems, and they’re not stupid enough to be taken by “I feel your pain” platitudes. So marginalization seems the best solution for now. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/31 "2010-04-10T00:41:16Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Ok. But (I suppose in theory) politicians vote on legislation every single term they’re in office. Well, unless they’re Abstain & Run cowards. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/32 "2010-04-10T00:53:28Z")
I suspect his retirement has a lot to do with upcoming ethics investigations for his involvement in the C street house. Spotlight has been burning bright on him lately. He has plenty of reason to go hide in the shadows. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/33 "2010-04-10T00:56:31Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > I suspect his retirement has a lot to do with upcoming ethics investigations for his involvement in the C street house. > > Spotlight has been burning bright on him lately. He has plenty of reason to go hide in the shadows. Ooh, linkies? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/34 "2010-04-10T00:59:53Z")
Complaints about C street have been mounting here is a recent story on it. > **[Conservative 'C Street House' Residents Face Ethics Complaints For...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/c-street-house-ethics_n_521672)** > > Conservative 'C Street House' Residents Face Ethics Complaints For Below-Market Rent ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/35 "2010-04-10T01:04:00Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Complaints about C street have been mounting here is a recent story on it. > > [Conservative 'C Street House' Residents Face Ethics Complaints For Below-Market Rent | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/01/c-street-house-ethics_n_521672.html) Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/36 "2010-04-10T01:51:55Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How many is a ‘vast majority’ in this case: 2/3, 1/3, 7/8, 3/16ths, 10? I’m curious about that, too. My own congressman John Hall (NY-19) was in the paper today having spoken to a retirees association about the health care bill. This isn’t a sure-win district for a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/37 "2010-04-10T02:10:12Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How many is a ‘vast majority’ in this case: 2/3, 1/3, 7/8, 3/16ths, 10? I think the number of Congressmen out there actively meeting with their constituents and selling the program is far outweighed by the ones painting themselves invisible and marking time till they can flee back to DC - hence the vast majority comment. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/38 "2010-04-10T02:52:06Z")
So the OP is pissed that a congressman he doesn’t like is not running for re-election? Is that about right? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/39 "2010-04-10T03:02:33Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > I think… far outweighed … hence the vast majority comment. So you’ve got no numbers, just a ‘gut feeling’ on the same level as Bush’s assessment of the grave and gathering threat posed by Saddam’s WMD’s. Did you fall for that one? I never did. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551/40 "2010-04-10T03:07:04Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > So the OP is pissed that a congressman he doesn’t like is not running for re-election? Is that about right? Nope, you’re missing the point. I’m pissed that they have the gall to act surprised that their constituents are upset with their performance/voting record and then instead of defending their actions paint themselves invisible while on their home turf or as in this case, just decide they don’t have a chance and quit. As I said before, Stupak is merely today’s poster child. Does it sadden me that he’s quitting - NO. I would like to see Most of them routed (both parties). With Congressional approval polls at only 11%, I’m not alone [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-another-vote-run-coward/535551.md?page=3)