# Yo lezlers- if you got something to say to me, just say it.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 17, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460 "2010-04-17T16:08:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/41 "2010-04-17T23:48:08Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> In case you didn’t want to bother reading it:
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> If it bothers you that much that someone thinks this about you, maybe you should change the way you “give advice” on the boards. _shrug_

Well, since you’re going to quote me/thank me, I think I have to clarify: the only reason I don’t see anything wrong with lezler’s first response is because I assumed she was like me. You know, you say you hate someone for a bit, then you get over it and like them again. The “hate” is mostly just to get across how much it annoys you. If this is actually a grudge thing, then I do see a problem.

Neither of you should be judging the other in this way. Both of you are jerks, apparently. Blaming someone for their anxiety disorder is really, really low, **sven**. But so is carrying a grudge about someone because you don’t like their conversation style.

Oh, and sven: look at my post in that thread: I said the same thing you did, and she actually agrees with me. There’s a reason why compassionate people are the therapists. You know, the people actually qualified to deal with a social phobia.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/42 "2010-04-17T23:57:46Z")

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Maybe a little bit of a grudge. The reason I kept “digging” (and I honestly didn’t see it as that, I saw it as trying to justify why I brought the snark. I now realize that was pointless and taken wrong) was because I honestly want her to acknowledge that just because people feel differently from her, doesn’t mean those feeings are wrong or “silly”. My attempts at actually communicating what bugs me about the posts are seen as continued jabs. Not my intent.

But if everyone wants to keep coming with the personal insults we can do that too, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/43 "2010-04-18T00:04:41Z")

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You’re really holding on to this “silly” thing, huh?

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/44 "2010-04-18T00:07:06Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> She knows that’s a compliment - a lot of us have her on our “Most Improved Doper” awards list.

Oh God, how tragic.

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/45 "2010-04-18T00:10:13Z")

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She only called you silly after you changed the thread from “Is this hostess rude?” to “How rude is this hostess?” I’d have to agree. That was pretty silly.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/46 "2010-04-18T00:15:33Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> Maybe a little bit of a grudge. The reason I kept “digging” (and I honestly didn’t see it as that, I saw it as trying to justify why I brought the snark. I now realize that was pointless and taken wrong) was because I honestly want her to acknowledge that just because people feel differently from her, doesn’t mean those feeings are wrong or “silly”.

You took what she said and blew it all out of proportion.

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> It’s kind of silly to get resentful about the board games, too. I mean, it’s not really any effort at all to cart over a couple of boxes. So we are left with the wine, which falls under BYOB, a pretty common and acceptable thing for an informal party. None of this is particularly outrageous. It’s just that you expected something different.

You are reading all kinds of stuff into this that is not here. And then you demand that she “acknowledge that just because people feel differently from her, doesn’t mean those feeings are wrong or ‘silly’.” Many people told you that bringing the games is not something to get bent out of shape about. She was reasonable and logical and you were not. Who cares if she annoyed you in past threads? By your reasoning, any feelings you have are always perfectly justified, because they’re your own feelings. Well, sometimes people’s feelings ARE silly. Even if they’re you.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/47 "2010-04-18T00:17:04Z")

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> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> Alright; I’ve reported the thread and we’ll see what happens.

It was reported yesterday as well. Lot of good that did.

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**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/48 "2010-04-18T00:31:03Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> You took what she said and blew it all out of proportion.  
> You are reading all kinds of stuff into this that is not here. And then you demand that she “acknowledge that just because people feel differently from her, doesn’t mean those feeings are wrong or ‘silly’.” Many people told you that bringing the games is not something to get bent out of shape about. She was reasonable and logical and you were not. Who cares if she annoyed you in past threads? By your reasoning, any feelings you have are always perfectly justified, because they’re your own feelings. Well, sometimes people’s feelings ARE silly. Even if they’re you.

THANK you!! I was thinking this earlier and couldn’t figure out how to word it. You did it.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/49 "2010-04-18T00:33:52Z")

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> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t know what this was all about. It reminds me of when … [blah blah blah, totally zzzzzzzzzzzzzzs]

> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> Yeah, she makes me feel inadequate as well. So does **Kyla**. But it’s only because their experience highlights my own shortcomings. I’ve only got myself to blame.

> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> Alright; I’ve reported the thread and we’ll see what happens.

Holy shit: hopelessly earnest pit-copping, maudlin self-reflection, and “Reported!” all in under two hours. You sure are on a fucking roll tonight.

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**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/50 "2010-04-18T00:44:02Z")

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What’s your problem? I only reported the post because people were wondering if it warranted moderator action. They’ll decide.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/51 "2010-04-18T00:50:35Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> She knows that’s a compliment - a lot of us have her on our “Most Improved Doper” awards list.

I respect that she considers that a compliment, but if I ever earn a similar award (not likely) don’t even fucking tell me. I would feel patronized to.

As for that other thread, what the fuck did Cameroon have to do with the price of tea. People were coming at her sideways out of the blue. Not Lezlers, for the record, who I could at least see why she felt she had to respond hard (she didn’t appreciate being called silly or whatever), but random posters dropping in to bring up irrellevant shit on even sven was just baffling.

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**Author:** ![JoseArcadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@JoseArcadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseArcadio)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/52 "2010-04-18T01:03:01Z")

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As usual Nzinga, Seated; you nailed it.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/53 "2010-04-18T01:05:25Z")

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> [@JoseArcadio](#):
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> As usual Nzinga, Seated; you nailed it.

**feels patronized**

Ha. I’m just fucking with you. I love nailing it. (that’s what he said)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/54 "2010-04-18T01:17:59Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> I have a soft spot for even sven because she’s grown up here. She used to look at the world so differently, and complained and bitched and griped about the world and, if you remember, people here tore her a new one–there were multiple pile ons about her whining, her self-pity, her unwillingness to look for real solutions to her problems. _She listened and learned_.

> [@ivn1188](#):
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> I can’t imagine how one would phrase this _more_ condescendingly.

It could have been more condescending if **Manda JO** had addressed _to_ **even sven** , instead of to someone else as a list of things to be admired about her.

It also could have been more condescending if she ( **Manda JO** ) had told her off for putting this in the Pit.

No, wait, that’s not _condescending_; that’s stealing your thunder. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/55 "2010-04-18T01:19:18Z")

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Back in the day I used to play World Cup Soccer on the Nintendo. Now, Cameroon was the first team you played and they were bullshit. They wore purple and had bug-eyed idiots all over the place. God.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/56 "2010-04-18T01:41:29Z")

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Was this thread made to dismissively tell people how they should react to Lezlers and how immature and childish everyones feelings are? 😉

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/57 "2010-04-18T01:55:08Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> Your posts irritate me, I find them condescending and judgmental.

Join the club…

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/58 "2010-04-18T02:29:50Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> I learned about the “ignore” function when I was communing with the elephants in Cameroon.

It is _never_ a good idea to put an elephant on your ignore list. You won’t see them coming, and before you know it you’ll be stomped into mush.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/59 "2010-04-18T02:41:12Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It is _never_ a good idea to put an elephant on your ignore list. You won’t see them coming, and before you know it you’ll be stomped into mush.

The thing about ignoring an elephant is, you’ll still see its footprints in your butter.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-lezlers-if-you-got-something-to-say-to-me-just-say-it/536460/60 "2010-04-18T02:46:12Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It is _never_ a good idea to put an elephant on your ignore list. You won’t see them coming, and before you know it you’ll be stomped into mush.

This, btw, explains why Grouch couldn’t figure out how the elephant got into his pajamas; he had the elephant on his “Ignore” list.

Let this be a lesson for us all.

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