# Yo! paulberserker!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 22, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436 "2005-02-22T23:56:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/81 "2005-02-26T01:21:02Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> Don’t forget the part about people in persistent vegetative states!

No, he mentioned **duffer** already.  
😉

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/82 "2005-02-26T01:30:43Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Fruit aside **Ilsa** , how you feel about your pitting me now, seeing as **Kaitlyn** ’s posts have all been exposed as a house of lies thatched with a roof of bullshit?

paulberserker,  
it’s certainly disappointing that Kaitlyn lied. However her posts were still interesting, worthwhile and polite. The complete opposite of yours, in fact. :wally

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/83 "2005-02-26T06:12:22Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No, he mentioned **duffer** already.  
> 😉

Dickhead. Now I have to respect you again. :mad:

😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/84 "2005-02-26T07:00:47Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> (IOW, I’m not trying to pretend there’s any substance left to this thread, I’m just amused that **paulie** keeps bumping it for another bite at the apple.)

No, the _tomato_, dammit!

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/85 "2005-02-26T11:48:21Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> paulberserker,  
> it’s certainly disappointing that Kaitlyn lied. However her posts were still interesting, worthwhile and polite. The complete opposite of yours, in fact. :wally

Have you ever read any of my other posts? Is this still going on with a garden ramble and a leg and a wing? Will all our questions be answered?

I don’t think I ever claimed that Kaitlyn being a liar vindicated my posts in the other thread, merely that i’m not a liar. Unlike Ilsa Lund, who doesn’t seem to able to make his mind up who he is.

(fin)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/86 "2005-02-26T13:07:01Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Have you ever read any of my other posts?

Yes (sadly).

> [@paulberserker](#):
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> I don’t think I ever claimed that Kaitlyn being a liar vindicated my posts in the other thread, merely that i’m not a liar.

Don’t you read your own posts?  
Here’s what you said:

“Fruit aside Ilsa, how you feel about your pitting me now, seeing as Kaitlyn’s posts have all been exposed as a house of lies thatched with a roof of bullshit?”

So you even contradict yourself in the same thread.

> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Unlike Ilsa Lund, who doesn’t seem to able to make his mind up who he is.

Is this another one of your bigoted sneers?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/87 "2005-02-26T14:21:13Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Is this still going on with a garden ramble and a **leg and a wing**?

When did this turn into a thread about fried chicken?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/88 "2005-02-26T17:10:06Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Unlike Ilsa Lund, who doesn’t seem to able to make his mind up who he is.

**Nurse Carmen** is another guy who posts under a woman’s name. You gonna go after him, too?

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/89 "2005-02-26T22:46:51Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> **Nurse Carmen** is another guy who posts under a woman’s name. You gonna go after him, too?

Is Carmen his first name? If so, is it exclusively used for females? I know it can’t be the Nurse part you’re referring to as it’s a profession, not a gender-specific title. 😕

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/90 "2005-02-26T22:58:05Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Dickhead. Now I have to respect you again. :mad:
> 
> 😃

Ha! I made you respect me specifically to piss you off. My scheme has worked!

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/91 "2005-02-27T11:12:37Z")

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Ilsa is a liar. Proof:  
2004/01/16: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4469716](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4469716) 16 years old  
2004/01/21: born in 1987 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4480785](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4480785)  
2004/02/10: 16 years old, and senior in college [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352)  
2004/04/02 16 years old [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4714091](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4714091)  
2005/01/31 age 26 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5785573](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5785573)

Seems to be an awfully weird joke to make to me.  
More lies:

2004/01/26 was in school ~8 years ago (implying that he isn’t in school now?)

> **[Parents of stupid children want to ban honor rolls, spelling bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4491168)**
>
> I can’t say I’m surprised… When I was in school (~8 years ago,) there really was a great deal of gloating and cliques around academic achievement rosters. The kids lacking in support for a proper education did have a hard time. But this is nothing...

2004/09/25 started college at 12

> **[Super-students -- fact or fiction?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5294357)**
>
> I started college when I was 12. To me, it wasn’t that big a deal. There was the occasional story in the local paper. I was and am humbled by the many people who were ahead of me still (though not at my school), starting at eight or ten. I also hate...

2004/02/29 IQ 150-180, another mention of starting college @ 12

> **[Question about IQ Tests](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4593123)**
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> I have taken several tests, from MENSA to online tests and have scored between 150 and 180. (I think I got a 153 on the MENSA) I started college at twelve. YMMV.

2004/04/13 homeschoold from 5-7th grade, then started college

> **[Do children who have learned to read and write before starting school turn out..](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4750739)**
>
> lissener nailed it. I had the same experience. Finding a school that is willing to treat your child as an individual and provide them with the stimulation they need is nigh impossible. Most likely, they will be bored out of their minds every single...

2004/01/26 went to poor southern school until 5th grade, then started college

> **[Parents of stupid children want to ban honor rolls, spelling bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4491954)**
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> Well, I went to a poor school in the south, and then only until the fifth grade. (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college.) The most “intelligent” (relative) kids tended to be the “popular” kids. There were the “Honor Roll” “popular kids” and there...

Apparently, Ilsa is so smart, he can travel back in time, and make himself smart enough to get into college at an even younger age!

2004/09/15 Claims to be a published herpetologist, no PhD yet

> **[Why do most poisonous animals tend to be cold-blooded?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5265416)**
>
> Thank you Desmostylus; I already knew that, but the reference helps. The problem is that there are other venomous snakes in their ranges, just not coral snakes. I didn’t know what Blake would make of that. FWIW, I am a herpetologist. I don’t have a...

Thanks to some anonymous people for the links! Let the weaseling commence!

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/92 "2005-02-27T11:26:17Z")

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> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> Ilsa is a liar. Proof:  
> 2004/01/16: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4469716](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4469716) 16 years old  
> 2004/01/21: born in 1987 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4480785](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4480785)  
> 2004/02/10: 16 years old, and senior in college [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352)  
> 2004/04/02 16 years old [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4714091](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4714091)  
> 2005/01/31 age 26 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5785573](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5785573)
> 
> Seems to be an awfully weird joke to make to me.

Reread that last thread, and it seems to be a weird joke based on her double posting. Sorry for the mistake. The rest of it stands.

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/93 "2005-02-27T11:32:12Z")

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> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> Reread that last thread, and it seems to be a weird joke based on her double posting. Sorry for the mistake. The rest of it stands.

Her as in Kyla, not Ilsa.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/94 "2005-02-27T11:52:34Z")

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Where are the discrepancies and contradictions? Those are all internally consistent and show no proof of fraudulence.

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/95 "2005-02-27T12:13:01Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Where are the discrepancies and contradictions? Those are all internally consistent and show no proof of fraudulence.

“Going to school 8 years ago.” (see first post) While being a senior in college

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352&postcount=58](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352&postcount=58)

Apparently going to college just after grade 5 (at a poor southern school). Then it is changed to him being homeschooled grades 5-7, THEN starting college. See first post.

Him apparently being a published herpetologist. See first post. While it has a chance of plausibility given his supposed intelligence, but it seems a little odd that in 7 months he went from being a senior in college to being published as a person knowledgable in a certain science. That is assuming he graduated very soon after he posted about being a senior in college.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/96 "2005-02-27T12:54:43Z")

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> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> “Going to school 8 years ago.” (see first post) While being a senior in college
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352&postcount=58](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4533352&postcount=58)

Going to school ~8 (notice the tilde… it denotes an _approximation_) years ago would have been in 1996, when he was ~10, the age someone would be in 5th grade, and began homeschooling.

> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> Apparently going to college just after grade 5 (at a poor southern school)

His exact quote is “Well, I went to a poor school in the south, and then only until the fifth grade. (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college.)” and that doesn’t preclude the possibility of his being homeschooled for two years beforehand.

The school’s financial situation is irrelevant.

> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> Him apparently being a published herpetologist. See first post. While it has a chance of plausibility given his supposed intelligence, but it seems a little odd that in 7 months he went from being a senior in college to being published as a person knowledgable in a certain science.

Admittedly suspicious but not proof of anything. All he said was that he was published. That could mean anything from an well-regarded academic essay to a magazine article.

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/97 "2005-02-27T13:28:27Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Going to school ~8 (notice the tilde… it denotes an _approximation_) years ago would have been in 1996, when he was ~10, the age someone would be in 5th grade, and began homeschooling.

One link says he started college after having done grade 5 at a school. And one said he was homeschooled for grades 5-7. Maybe he was homeschooled for part of grade 5 and went to a school for part of 5, but one version says that was homeschooled for grades 5-7, and one says that he went to college when finished with grade 5. How is that consistent?

The “~8 years ago” bit may be consistent with him being homeschooled, but since it is one of two different versions of what happend, it may be a lie.

> [@](#):
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> His exact quote is “Well, I went to a poor school in the south, and then only until the fifth grade. (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college.)” and that doesn’t preclude the possibility of his being homeschooled for two years beforehand.

Not two years beforehand, two years after. He was in grade 5 and then went college OR as one of his posts says he was homeschooled for grade 5-7 and then went to college.

Which seems like a pretty huge mistake to make to me me.

> [@](#):
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> The school’s financial situation is irrelevant.

Yes, I admit that, it was part of what I quoted from another source, and accidentally mentioned that detail again.

> [@](#):
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> Admittedly suspicious but not proof of anything. All he said was that he was published. That could mean anything from an well-regarded academic essay to a magazine article.

Yeah, I suppose that could be a possibility. Seems it would likely be an academic essay, but “published herpetologist” would seem to imply more than that. I suppose it could very well have been true, publishing an academic essay after getting a degree… Just not saying it was a magazine or a academic essay makes it seem more like it’s more than that.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/98 "2005-02-27T13:57:52Z")

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> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> One link says he started college after having done grade 5 at a school. And one said he was homeschooled for grades 5-7. Maybe he was homeschooled for part of grade 5 and went to a school for part of 5, but one version says that was homeschooled for grades 5-7, and one says that he went to college when finished with grade 5. How is that consistent?
> 
> The “~8 years ago” bit may be consistent with him being homeschooled, but since it is one of two different versions of what happend, it may be a lie.

Or it could be awkward phrasing and an honest mistake. Grammar isn’t always very precise… for example, when I said “that doesn’t preclude the possibility of his being homeschooled for two years beforehand”, I meant before college, not fifth grade.

We’re human. We make errors.

> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
>
> Yeah, I suppose that could be a possibility. Seems it would likely be an academic essay, but “published herpetologist” would seem to imply more than that. I suppose it could very well have been true, publishing an academic essay after getting a degree… Just not saying it was a magazine or a academic essay makes it seem more like it’s more than that.

Misleading, yes, but not an outright lie and it fits in perfectly with his character or what we know of it. He’s a pretentious blowhard, yes, but I don’t see any evidence that’s he’s a troll in anything that you or **Zero Gravitas** linked to as your whole case against him are these lines:

_[ol][li]I started college at twelve.[/li][li]I started college when I was 12.[/li][li]When I was in school (~8 years ago)[/li][li]I was home schooled from the fifth grade on, and started college two years later.[/li][li]Well, I went to a poor school in the south, and then only until the fifth grade. (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college.)[/li][_]FWIW, I am a herpetologist. I don’t have a PhD yet, I occasionally make mistakes, but I am published and generally know what I’m talking about RE: snakes (if little else!).[/ol]\*

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/99 "2005-02-27T14:29:56Z")

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Great. Now “expose the doper” has become the new cliche. :rolleyes:  
I miss “penis ensues.”

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yo-paulberserker/291436/100 "2005-02-27T14:37:26Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Or it could be awkward phrasing and an honest mistake. Grammar isn’t always very precise… for example, when I said “that doesn’t preclude the possibility of his being homeschooled for two years beforehand”, I meant before college, not fifth grade.
> 
> We’re human. We make errors.

It is a pretty big mistake to make. Grammatical mistakes that would give the impression you spent two/three years doing something you weren’t (being homeschooled grades 5-7) seem like a pretty big mistake to make, and one you’d probably need to clarify. Especially if you had said what your schooling situation was a few times before, and then it completely changes, from being 12 (which supports the homeschooling) and then to doing grade 5 (roughly, age 10) and then going to college. If the second part were true, he’d be a senior at 14. Just seems a little far off from what could be considered a simple mistake.

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_[ol][li]I started college at twelve.[/li][li]I started college when I was 12.[/li][li]When I was in school (~8 years ago)[/li][li]I was home schooled from the fifth grade on, and started college two years later.[/li][li]Well, I went to a poor school in the south, and then only until the fifth grade. (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college.)[/li][li]FWIW, I am a herpetologist. I don’t have a PhD yet, I occasionally make mistakes, but I am published and generally know what I’m talking about RE: snakes (if little else!).[/ol]_[/li][/QUOTE]

“And then, only until the fifth grade (No, I didn’t drop out, I started college)” says “I went to a school until 5th grade, then I went to college”. Again, very inconsistent with what he had been saying before. He had said he had started college at 12 / was a senior at 16, and kept on confirming that he was 16, why would he make such a big mistake that would implicate that it was a lie, that if the new version were true he was actually 14, and hadn’t been homeschooled and not correct/say anything about the post?

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