# Yogsosoth, help me get a dog to neglect **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019 "2012-02-26T00:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/201 "2012-02-29T19:32:53Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > That’s why they should get a cat. For the stir-frying? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/202 "2012-02-29T19:47:43Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > :smack: > > The mature thing to do is not sink to the level of your attackers. Yes, it’s a trap I’ve fallen into myself and the natural thing is to want to lash out at someone who’s pissing you off, but all shit slinging does is get you covered in shit. It might feel good at the time but it doesn’t accomplish anything. > > :smack: Too much? I disagree but I can see your point. I don’t think it’ll help though. There’s like a dozen people who hate me now and more who think worse of me, and nothing I can really say is going to change that. Should I apologize to elbows or miss elizabeth? I doubt they’d accept, and I’m not going to do that without them doing it first. There’s immaturity, and then there’s simply sticking up for yourself. With as much 80’s training montages that I’ve seen, for this issue I need to stand and fight, have the eye of the tiger, never back down attitude! Now excuse me as I jog up some stairs 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/203 "2012-02-29T19:53:26Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Well, I can’t say as how I agree with this, either. I think sometimes it’s better for the parent-child relationship for the child to move out. My mother and I did not get along at all, and now that I am in my thirties I see what a lot of the causes are, but you bet your ass I didn’t understand it when I was eighteen! And just because we are “supposed to love” anybody doesn’t mean we actually do. Sometimes even parents don’t deserve love just for taking care of a kid. > > But then, my situation gets complicated, tho by no means unique. Of course, YMMV,I didn’t think that had to be stated. Dogs are animals, doesn’t mean they should be abused but also doesn’t mean they need to be overly pampered and have human feelings attributed to them. No one’s getting upset because goats live in barns and rarely get walked. I’ve seen goats who have at least as much personality as most dogs. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/204 "2012-02-29T19:58:49Z")
> [@](#): > > so who’s the adult now? Neener neener! 😃 Just when we think you cannot possibly be less mature, you prove us wrong. You accuse me of being a willing incest victim and then expect me to apologize to you? (Thanks for the laugh though!) You could not, if you purposely tried, make my point, (that delusion closely follows rationalization[‘There’s immaturity, and then there’s simply sticking up for yourself’]., during hyper extended teenagerhood), more apparent. You can take offense, and misinterpret every view, as an attack, all you wish, but thinking anyone in this thread owes you an apology kind of makes the word ‘delusion’ seem a tad understated now, don’t ya think? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/205 "2012-02-29T21:27:57Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Just when we think you cannot possibly be less mature, you prove us wrong. > > You accuse me of being a willing incest victim and then expect me to apologize to you? (Thanks for the laugh though!) > > You could not, if you purposely tried, make my point, (that delusion closely follows rationalization[‘There’s immaturity, and then there’s simply sticking up for yourself’]., during hyper extended teenagerhood), more apparent. You can take offense, and misinterpret every view, as an attack, all you wish, but thinking anyone in this thread owes you an apology kind of makes the word ‘delusion’ seem a tad understated now, don’t ya think? It is not for me that the apology is owed, but yourself. You are obviously suffering from a lot of emotional baggage, baggage that will only get heavier as time goes on. If not me, then it would be another innocent bystander, gobsmacked by your righteous indignation, as you burst into his topic like the Kool Aid Man, shouting that he cannot possibly be right in this debate due to his living accommodations. Because in the end, of the two of us, only one has an issue with how I choose to live my life, and that person is the one who is refusing to see the light. I feel bad for you, knowing that you must have gone through a lot. My life’s not grand, but its not bad either. I’ve never really had to suffer as you may have, so I don’t get you, I don’t get your anger. You can crow about it all you want, having made something of yourself, but like Yoda said, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering. I don’t hate you, so I don’t suffer. You, despite your denials, have a huge problem with me, and its a mystery as to where it comes from I think somebody needs a hug ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/206 "2012-02-29T22:14:18Z")
Climb down from that cross, guy! No one is attacking you.:rolleyes: I have no issue with how you live your life, I assure you. I believe you are exactly where you belong, and fit perfectly, and enjoy enormously, I could not be happier for you, truly. You were behaving like an immature child, and I simply pointed out such things happen often when people stay in an extended teenage life style for too long. That you continue to see this as a vicious personal attack on you, speaks more to issues you may have, than I, in my opinion. And speaking of vicious personal attacks, let’s not forget that you accused me of being a willing incest victim.:eek: The irony it burns. All of your verbiage and immaturity, so proudly and arrogantly displayed, on endlessly, (over a throw away comment, not even on topic, by someone you don’t even know, on the internet) seems to be only confirming my conjecture, to my eyes. I don’t need no hugs from you, I have a dog!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/207 "2012-02-29T22:55:39Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > For the stir-frying? [Right](http://spacedust.atspace.com/we_no_see_your_cat.html) ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/208 "2012-02-29T23:02:16Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I have no issue with how you live your life, I assure you. I believe you are exactly where you belong, and fit perfectly, and enjoy enormously, I could not be happier for you, truly. I don’t know if I believe you, given your invocations to the contrary, so I’ll just say I do and make up my mind later > [@elbows](#): > > You were behaving like an immature child, and I simply pointed out such things happen often when people stay in an extended teenage life style for too long. That you continue to see this as a vicious personal attack on you, speaks more to issues you may have, than I, in my opinion. And here’s where things kind of fall apart. Nothing about what I said or did was immature. I was actually trying to be super mature by getting the info and doing research, but constant posts ignoring the premise of my OP, and personal attacks do tend to wear thin. Again, I will say that while it may disagree with the rules, I feel that I am perfectly justified to attack when attacked. If you want to remove yourself from the pack, that’s fine, but tell that to the one who wished I would get mauled. My response to her was perfectly justified, and my restrained annoyance was much less than she deserved > [@elbows](#): > > And speaking of vicious personal attacks, let’s not forget that you accused me of being a willing incest victim.:eek: The irony it burns. I did that, and I felt bad saying it, but remember, only did that after you said some nasty stuff to me. Its ok to hit someone who hit you first, even if you hit them back twice as hard > [@elbows](#): > > All of your verbiage and immaturity, so proudly and arrogantly displayed, on endlessly, (over a throw away comment, not even on topic, by someone you don’t even know, on the internet) seems to be only confirming my conjecture, to my eyes. Consider the allied assault I was under, yours may have gotten lost in the mix. If so, then I overreacted. But if wasn’t, then I underreacted. If I reacted of an appropriate level, then…yeah. Plus you should probably try not to be known is that girl who comes into topics and posts about how people have problems if they live at home. > [@elbows](#): > > I don’t need no hugs from you, I have a dog!😃 If we both hug you, then you could be the meat in our sandwich! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/209 "2012-02-29T23:30:38Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > On this board, fighting back with logical and truthful answers is much more effective than trolling like a mouthbreather, Preach it. Well done. Can’t wait for the rest of the sentence! > [@](#): > > then admitting it like a retard. . . . . the fuck? Seriously, that’s twice you jumped his shit for admitting to his angertrolling. Why on earth would that be a bad thing? You’d rather he trolled and denied it? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/210 "2012-03-01T00:07:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I did that, and I felt bad saying it, but remember, only did that after you said some nasty stuff to me. Its ok to hit someone who hit you first, even if you hit them back twice as hard I think, if you look back, you’ll notice I said not one thing about you, personally, specifically, or actually, in any way. I simply conjectured about your ‘juvenile’ (your word!), or immature, behaviour, was sometimes related to such living circumstances. Again, so we’re clear, I was not speaking of you, I was generalizing about a connection I felt had validity. Apparently you took this as a vicious personal attack, hence my incest inclination. And let’s not forget the wishing death on another. They probably owe you an apology too! ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/211 "2012-03-01T00:13:58Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I think, if you look back, you’ll notice I said not one thing about you, personally, specifically, or actually, in any way. I simply conjectured about your ‘juvenile’ (your word!), or immature, behaviour, was sometimes related to such living circumstances. > > Again, so we’re clear, I was not speaking of you, I was generalizing about a connection I felt had validity. We’ll just have to disagree about disagreeing > [@elbows](#): > > Apparently you took this as a vicious personal attack, hence my incest inclination. And let’s not forget the wishing death on another. They probably owe you an apology too! Probably, but I’m fine with them sitting back and sniping at me so long as I get to snipe back ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/212 "2012-03-01T02:51:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Nothing about what I said or did was immature. I was actually trying to be super mature > [@](#): > > Its ok to hit someone who hit you first, even if you hit them back twice as hard In the same post! The comedy writes itself, truly.😃 ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/213 "2012-03-01T03:07:01Z")
But its true! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/214 "2012-03-01T03:25:07Z")
The former, maybe. The latter, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/215 "2012-03-01T03:38:23Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I don’t think people are wrong to see a possible connection between his living arrangements and the quality and quantity of immaturity he’s displayed in this thread. Go back and reread it. Comes across like an apathetic snarly 15 yr old! He’s over 30 and still rationalizing and justifying his crap like a kid, striking out at anyone, who doesn’t see things his way, in the most immature ways. He thinks Wow is a responsibility for goodness sake. > > If you can’t see it, so be it. But don’t take to task those who clearly can. If it is his posts here that make you think he is immature, then address those instead of going off on tangents about “adults don’t live with their parents”. Not that he has been significantly less mature than those who are attacking him… ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/216 "2012-03-01T04:47:02Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Not everyone has gone through the childhood you have, so you don’t need to keep attacking people to prove you’re strong. You lived through it, and that’s good enough. You should be proud of putting yourself up instead of trying to tear others down. Wait a minute, so if someone leaves home at 18 it must be because they had a horrible childhood filled with abuse? Or do you have some reason to think \*\*elbows \*\*specifically had terrible issues with his parents? ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/217 "2012-03-01T04:53:55Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > Wait a minute, so if someone leaves home at 18 it must be because they had a horrible childhood filled with abuse? There’s another reason to leave? ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/218 "2012-03-01T12:57:06Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > There’s another reason to leave? Hm. I don’t know about anyone else, but I left home to go to college (and shacked up with my SO sometime in the middle of that). My mother’ll be surprised she abused me, but it can’t be helped — I knew her forcing me to play baseball was pure evil. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/219 "2012-03-02T07:20:35Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Hm. I don’t know about anyone else, but I left home to go to college (and shacked up with my SO sometime in the middle of that). My mother’ll be surprised she abused me, but it can’t be helped — I knew her forcing me to play baseball was pure evil. 😉 Yeah, really. I left home at 18 - I had no idea my parents were such terrible people. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/220 "2012-03-02T07:40:35Z")
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