# Yogsosoth, help me get a dog to neglect **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019 "2012-02-26T00:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/161 "2012-02-28T18:08:40Z")
**Yog** , I’ve never liked you. I will smile when you flame out. And I pray that your sister does not listen to a word you say. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/162 "2012-02-28T18:09:37Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Eh, no. It is weird for this culture to expect 18 year olds to leave at the first crack of adulthood. I was not making the assertion that moving out is the first crack of adulthood. Some of us regard other things as more important, like holding a steady job, finishing college, paying bills, taking care of many household things. There are more barometers for adulthood than moving out Oddly, most adults I know are able to do all these things _and_ move out. In fact, moving out pretty much ensures you _have_ to hold a steady job, pay bills, take care of household things, etc. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/163 "2012-02-28T18:19:25Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Oddly, most adults I know are able to do all these things _and_ move out. In fact, moving out pretty much ensures you _have_ to hold a steady job, pay bills, take care of household things, etc. To be fair, **yog** does have a steady job. He posted a thread on advice on his resume awhile back. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/164 "2012-02-28T18:34:40Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Sorry, was trolling. When people start making assumptions about me based on what little facts they have, or attacking me inappropriately, my eyes glaze over and I start in on the snarky comments > > (snip) > > Where’d you get the idea of a cage from? We never caged our old dog. If we needed to take her somewhere, she laid down in the backseat with someone watching her. She was never in a cage, we don’t even have one You’re aware that trolling is a no-no on this board, right? And I believe the cage was in reference to the shelter where you’ve decided you can just unload this dog [del]when[/del] if things don’t work out. Because dogs at shelters are in, like, cages. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/165 "2012-02-28T18:50:16Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > **Yog** , I’ve never liked you. I will smile when you flame out. Why not? I don’t remember doing anything to you. I know a few people shouldn’t like me, but you’ve never been anything more than a blank face to me. Did we argue about something before? Or you just don’t like my wildly inappropriate jokes in topics that deserve them? Cause I really don’t remember you at all > [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Oddly, most adults I know are able to do all these things _and_ move out. In fact, moving out pretty much ensures you _have_ to hold a steady job, pay bills, take care of household things, etc. And most adults are married, have kids, etc. There’s plenty of people who are adults do only do some of those things. That’s the point, life’s different from everyone, and people want to assume certain things based on my living conditions. Its not only laughable, but ignorant. If people want to continue doing that, fine, but then I’m going to do it to them too > [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > You’re aware that trolling is a no-no on this board, right? I’m also pretty certain wishing death on people is a no-no. I’m simply taking the crap I’m getting and flinging it back some. Sure, I can stay all nice and polite, say my "excuse me"s and "I beg your pardon"s and "Please let me clarify that"s, which I do to actual normal polite people. But when you start flinging poo or shooting them out of a gun, don’t expect to stay clean. Do I prefer not to have to resort to call elbows out for her molested childhood trauma? Sure, but she wanted to bring in irrelevant details over lifestyle choices. Now she has to live with the consequences. If you have an honest question about my dog situation, ask it and I will reply honestly. If you want to assume things about my character based on what few details I’ve told people about my lifestyle, then I’m going to do the same to you. I think its only fair. It wouldn’t do me any good to simply take crap and be unable to give it back, so when people are crazy enough to wish we would get mauled, then I’m going to say I’m kicking the dog for fun. If people don’t like that, maybe they can apologize for being assholes > [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > And I believe the cage was in reference to the shelter where you’ve decided you can just unload this dog [del]when[/del] if things don’t work out. Because dogs at shelters are in, like, cages There were people in the other thread saying that a dog is better off euthanized or living in a shelter or a puppy mill than living with us. So given that’s what they believe, why should it matter if we return a dog to a shelter if we find out we can’t handle it? It would be no worse off than before, and my sister would gain a new appreciation for how difficult it is to take care of an animal, and I would get to pet it for a while. Its a win-win situation. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/166 "2012-02-28T18:51:38Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > **Yog** has been one of the weirdest posters on the Dope since I first started recognizing his username/posts about a year ago. I’ve always thought each thing I’ve read by him has been …off. Socially awkward. That’s why I wrote as neutral a post as I could in the other thread (first one after the OP), and figured y’all would take it from there. If you think I’m weird you should meet my clone! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/167 "2012-02-28T19:08:44Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > And again, as I’ve explained, I only live with my parents for the sex, something you should know a lot about having been forcefully and then willingly molested by your daddy over and over again, and now you’re doing the molesting. Does your fetish know no bounds? :dubious: That boy ain’t right. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/168 "2012-02-28T19:15:27Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > That boy ain’t right. Nope, and I felt kind of bad about it too. Then I woke up and read her responses and well, let’s just say I felt less bad. ---
**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/169 "2012-02-28T20:44:37Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Oh please, part of that was in jest. I was hoping people would get that but I guess not. I play a slightly unhealthy level of video games, but its no debilitating. Define “slightly unhealthy” for us. How many hours per day do you sit at home in front of your computer? > [@](#): > > Eh, no. It is weird for this culture to expect 18 year olds to leave at the first crack of adulthood. I was not making the assertion that moving out is the first crack of adulthood. Some of us regard other things as more important, like holding a steady job, finishing college, paying bills, taking care of many household things. There are more barometers for adulthood than moving out You are 32, not 22. You’ve had 14 years to get yourself squared away and on a path to independence, but still today you have no intention to ever move out of Mommy and Daddy’s house. You are not in some rural farmhouse helping your family with the manual labor required to run the farm. You are literally siphoning off them and reveling in the lifestyle of a spoiled teenager. > [@](#): > > Sorry, was trolling. When people start making assumptions about me based on what little facts they have, or attacking me inappropriately, my eyes glaze over and I start in on the snarky comments Assumptions born from your own words and the attitude conveyed therein. Reasonable guesses based on your direct statements of how often you play video games and your demeanor regarding the suggestion of ever moving out. We can only go by what you say, so to use a “farm” analogy: You reap what you sow. ---
**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/170 "2012-02-28T20:46:45Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > And again, as I’ve explained, I only live with my parents for the sex, something you should know a lot about having been forcefully and then willingly molested by your daddy over and over again, and now you’re doing the molesting. Does your fetish know no bounds? :dubious: Have you met our resident child molester advocate, **Starving Artist**? I think you and he would have a wonderful time discussing such fantasies in lurid detail. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/171 "2012-02-28T21:14:01Z")
> [@Apex\_Rogers](#): > > Define “slightly unhealthy” for us. How many hours per day do you sit at home in front of your computer? 3-4 > [@Apex\_Rogers](#): > > You are 32, not 22. You’ve had 14 years to get yourself squared away and on a path to independence, but still today you have no intention to ever move out of Mommy and Daddy’s house. You are not in some rural farmhouse helping your family with the manual labor required to run the farm. You are literally siphoning off them and reveling in the lifestyle of a spoiled teenager. Did you understand the different barometers I was talking about? It doesn’t matter if its 4 or 14 years. There are other achievements that scream adulthood other than moving out. Some people may never get married, or have kids, but that doesn’t make them less adults than a person who has kids, but never held a steady job, or has both those things but never moved out. This works for our financial situation, we have no desire to increase our burden by changing it. And there are a lot of bills I take care of too, its hardly a parasitic relationship. If and when I need the extra room, a decision will have to be made. But I’m very clean, I don’t mess things up, I’m quiet and stay home a lot. I don’t really need an entire apartment. Whole rooms would go to waste. And you want me to pay for that or else I’m not an adult? I’m not going to do that ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/172 "2012-02-28T21:27:23Z")
I really don’t think it’s fair to keep coming down on YS and his sister for not moving out. In some cultures, it’s just not happening, and if YS and his sister and his parents are happy, who cares? Who even cares if he spends all his time in only work or play? If his parents are fine with it? It’s different cultures and it’s not lazy or anything in their culture. I come from an Asian culture and I was expected to stay home until marriage. The fact that I didn’t relates to an emotionally abusive household as well as the fact that I have an extremely independent spirit, but really, what skin would it be off anyone’s back if I didn’t leave? That’s between me, my parents, and my future spouse - which I had married an Indian man might have expected me to be living home until marriage. Seriously, that has so little to do with the damn dog that it’s annoying it’s even being referenced over and over, like it’s pertinent in some way to be judgemental about different lifestyles. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/173 "2012-02-28T22:07:21Z")
I think they just want to find something to attack me with. Since I’m terribly handsome, a trillionaire, living a playboy lifestyle, and can do 6d20 damage with each stroke of my Great Axe, they had to pick something 😃 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/174 "2012-02-28T22:08:52Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I really don’t think it’s fair to keep coming down on YS and his sister for not moving out. But . . . but . . . it means he’s a spoiled stunted man-child leech with no social skills! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/175 "2012-02-28T22:10:30Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I think they just want to find something to attack me with. Since I’m terribly handsome, a trillionaire, living a playboy lifestyle, and can do 6d20 damage with each stroke of my Great Axe, they had to pick something 😃 No strength bonus. See? You spend too much time inside! ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/176 "2012-02-28T22:21:14Z")
> [@andros](#): > > No strength bonus. See? You spend too much time inside! I’m working on it! My +1 Shirt has extra STR attached, though it decreases my charisma. I probably should wash it, but then I wouldn’t have the additional bonus Attacking: Occasionally inflicts blind/paralyze on enemies ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/177 "2012-02-28T22:45:54Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I think they just want to find something to attack me with. Since I’m terribly handsome, a trillionaire, living a playboy lifestyle, and can do 6d20 damage with each stroke of my Great Axe, they had to pick something 😃 I think it’s more that people who had previously thought you unmemorable are trying to find something upon which to blame your incredible immaturity and stupidity. And succeeding, if I may. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/178 "2012-02-28T22:55:03Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > I think it’s more that people who had previously thought you unmemorable are trying to find something upon which to blame your incredible immaturity and stupidity. > > And succeeding, if I may. You may not! ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/179 "2012-02-29T00:25:17Z")
OK, well, he’s got us there. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019/180 "2012-02-29T01:41:00Z")
On reflection, I think the sister is on the right track and encourage her to go and get that dog, directly. I’d wager the wanting the dog ‘to keep me from partying so much’ is code for, ‘so I don’t turn into my brother’. Let’s be honest, for whatever reason, the parents aren’t exactly encouraging these two to reach for independence. So where’s that influence going to come from? Her big brother? Not! And she’s not wrong, having a dog is a responsibility, and will get you home earlier, in fact. And, who knows, once she’s flexed that muscle it could grow stronger, she may like the feeling of having responsibility and meeting it. She’s still young enough, to not yet have her ambition numbed by an extended teenagehood. And to want, for herself, what her peers have, independence from the family unit, and the confidence and maturity that comes with it. Wanting to stay in step with your peers, maturity wise is smart. I’m glad she’s getting a dog. I predict Mom won’t be afraid and Dad will come to adore the animal (unless it digs in the garden, of course!). I think she’s on the right path and give her kudos for making an effort. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsosoth-help-me-get-a-dog-to-neglect/614019.md?page=10)