# YogSothoth, how'd you get so fucking stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996 "2016-09-26T23:58:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/81 "2016-09-28T00:19:28Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> Didn’t \*\*YogSothoth \*\* claim to be an Army medic in a past thread?

I think it was a past life. A demon told me about it.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/82 "2016-09-28T00:47:57Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I think it was a past life. A demon told me about it.

I can’t find the thread, so I am likely misremembering. But there was a discussion in which people were talking about the M-16, and someone (I thought it was YogSothoth) stated he was taught in the Army that the M-16 was a “defensive weapon”. I remember the post because it was such amazing bullshit. I’m pretty sure the poster also mentioned being an Army medic. Now I’m curious who that poster was, if not YogSothoth.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/83 "2016-09-28T00:54:14Z")

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Good god, I hope not. I remember in one [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19394974#post19394974) he stated that bullets can’t ricochet off of water.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/84 "2016-09-28T01:00:44Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> I can’t find the thread, so I am likely misremembering. But there was a discussion in which people were talking about the M-16, and someone (I thought it was YogSothoth) stated he was taught in the Army that the M-16 was a “defensive weapon”. I remember the post because it was such amazing bullshit. I’m pretty sure the poster also mentioned being an Army medic. Now I’m curious who that poster was, if not YogSothoth.

To be fair, he could have played one in one of the _Call of Duty_ games. Me, I prefer _The Legend of Zelda_ so I carry this broadsword around in case I need to shoot laser beams at monsters.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/85 "2016-09-28T05:12:31Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Every time I open a thread where somebody discusses a problem, I wait for Yog to contribute his trademark tasteless turd comment.

Better a tasteless turd than a flavorful turd, I always say.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/86 "2016-09-28T06:19:05Z")

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I want to go into the “Things you’re shocked that people don’t know” thread and post that third degree burns are serious and you should seek medical treatment, but I don’t want to get a note for threadshitting.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/87 "2016-09-28T07:24:56Z")

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Did I miss it or has the target of the OP walked back his “My ignorance makes me correct” argument? Hope not. After all, that ranks pretty near another poster’s classic “My post is my cite”.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/88 "2016-09-28T14:43:12Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> So fuck your judgemental bullshit. I will continue to reply to anyone who I think I can help with medical advice based on what I know.

Perhaps if you were to actually learn something first, that might make a difference. Try going to the Red Cross and taking a basic First Aid class. Or even go on Google and look up ‘third degree burn’. Both of those actions will tell you something:

Third degree burns are Bad Shit and you need immediate medical treatment.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/89 "2016-09-28T15:22:23Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Perhaps if you were to actually learn something first, that might make a difference.

Seeing **Clothahump** lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is the height of irony.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/90 "2016-09-28T15:35:06Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Seeing **Clothahump** lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is the height of irony.

Seeing **Clothahump** _correctly_ lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is a sign of the Apocalypse.

Anyway, I’m okay to give medical advice because I am a doctor.

Okay, not a real doctor, but I’ve played one on television.

Okay, maybe I haven’t done that per se, but I’ve seen people portraying doctors on televisions.

Okay, I’ve seen a few episodes of _House_. And if I’ve learned anything valuable about the practice of medicine from watching _House_…I’ll be very surprised.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/91 "2016-09-28T15:42:41Z")

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**Yogsothoth** , didn’t you used to be called **Yogsosoth**? How/why did that change? Just curious.

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**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/92 "2016-09-28T15:59:32Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Seeing **Clothahump** lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is the height of irony.

Well yeah.

But at least in this case he brought a whole fresh new perspective to the topic, teased out nuances no one else considered, and generally provided the kind of thoughtful insight this thread had been completely devoid of.

Would read again.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/93 "2016-09-28T17:20:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Perhaps if you were to actually learn something first, that might make a difference.

Read this to yourself while looking in a mirror. You might learn something, or Bloody Mary might come. Either way, it seems like a pretty groovy option.

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**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/94 "2016-09-28T18:08:10Z")

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My favorite.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15905919&postcount=17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15905919&postcount=17)

_Kids should not be censored from porn. What a stupid decision_

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/95 "2016-09-28T19:31:35Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Seeing **Clothahump** _correctly_ lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is a sign of the Apocalypse.
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> Anyway, I’m okay to give medical advice because I am a doctor.
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> Okay, not a real doctor, but I’ve played one on television.
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> Okay, maybe I haven’t done that per se, but I’ve seen people portraying doctors on televisions.
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> Okay, I’ve seen a few episodes of _House_. And if I’ve learned anything valuable about the practice of medicine from watching _House_…I’ll be very surprised.

You obviously _didn’t_ learn it’s always lupus.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/96 "2016-09-28T19:39:40Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Seeing **Clothahump** _correctly_ lecture someone else about making ignorant remarks is a sign of the Apocalypse.
> 
> Anyway, I’m okay to give medical advice because I am a doctor.
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> Okay, not a real doctor, but I’ve played one on television.
> 
> Okay, maybe I haven’t done that per se, but I’ve seen people portraying doctors on televisions.
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> Okay, I’ve seen a few episodes of _House_. And if I’ve learned anything valuable about the practice of medicine from watching _House_…I’ll be very surprised.

I’ve seen a commercial containing many TV doctors doing doctor poses.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/97 "2016-09-29T12:40:13Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I hope to hell they didn’t get that dog.

Dear LORD, me too.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/98 "2016-09-30T14:33:30Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> If its serious, sure. If someone says they think they have an ulcer, I’ll chime in with a joke or nothing at all. But if someone says its seems like a harmless burn and it doesn’t even hurt, then I’m as qualified as anybody to give advice…

apparently, you are less qualified than everyone else in the thread.

> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> I’ve never denied I was factually wrong.

you might want to write more carefully. It seemed like you said “i don’t know any better, so i am right.” That’s kinda a factual claim. A dumb one, but hard to tell just how dumb you might be from that thread.

> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> But I deny that I didn’t have the ability to give advice. As I’ve said over and over again, if you don’t know you don’t know something, then you can’t know you’re not qualified to give advice on it. I didn’t know I had to know about exactly what a 3rd degree burn was to give advice on what may be a small and harmless burn, therefore I was perfectly fine in giving advice on what I think it is. …

You know, the advice was wrong, but not horrible. What was horrible was your doubling down. A person of normal intelligence would have read the rest of the thread, and either not posted again, or said, “gee, I guess it could be serious, ignore my previous advice, I was wrong.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/99 "2016-09-30T17:34:46Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I hope to hell they didn’t get that dog.

He burning your dog.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogsothoth-howd-you-get-so-fucking-stupid/766996/100 "2016-10-01T04:00:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Larry Borgia
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> > [@](#):
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> > You don’t need specialized knowledege to know that third degree burns are serious and require medical attention. I didn’t think it was possible not to know this.
> 
> They should usually hurt too, right? That is also common knowledge. That the OP said it didn’t hurt meant this was not your typical burn. And remember, I posted before others came in to say it could deaden the nerves, which I hadn’t taken into account.

OK, I know it’s the pit but let’s fight some ignorance. It’s not that 3rd degree burns\* sometimes _don’t hurt, it’s that the definition of a 3rd degree burn is one that is deep enough to destroy nerves and so_ by definitio\*n doesn’t hurt (although there can be some pain in surrounding areas that are less severely burned). I think that this is common knowledge-I think I learned it in Girl Scouts. In fact, when I got a severe second degree burn a couple of weeks ago, I was reassured by the fact that it hurt like hell because I knew it couldn’t be that severe. So what bothers me is the doubling down and saying that this was somehow not a typical case of a 3rd degree burn when in fact whenever somebody presents with a burn that is painless it is most likely _more_ severe than a painful burn.

Suppose somebody said “I’m having chest pains that radiate to my left arm” and was told “Well since the pain isn’t just in your chest but also goes to your arm, it probably isn’t serious so you don’t need to see a doctor”. If multiple posters than came in to point out that chest pain radiating to the left arm is absolutely classic for a heart attack and this is a well-known fact, would it be appropriate to then insist “I was justified in telling the person not to see a doctor because it’s common knowledge that heart pain shouldn’t go to the arm, and I was unaware that this could represent a heart attack”?

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