# Yogurt is not delicious

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773 "2019-04-19T14:53:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/101 "2019-04-21T21:32:11Z")

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Think I’ll try out making yogurt in my Insta Pot. Will report back with results.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> Wow. I love yogurt. It’s the only cow milk product I eat. The only downside is that our African Grey loves yogurt also. He recognizes the container and demands his share. Some people find this disgusting, since I let him eat from my spoon and then I finish what he can’t get.

Awww, now I’m nostalgic. My mom believed yogurt was good for “all women” and therefore also for my childhood dog, a female mini poodle. But she would never be caught dead swapping germs with a dog, so Tina always got the last spoonful. A frugal type, my mother would scrape, scrape, scrape the yogurt cup clean with the spoon, then allow Tina to delicately lap that last spoonful.

In her old age, Tina became somewhat deaf\* and no longer responded much to commands. Amusingly enough, the sound of a spoon in a yogurt cup hits some magical wavelength she still could hear … from across the house, and would wake her from a dead sleep.

(\* meaning, selectively deaf, obvs)

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/102 "2019-04-22T00:19:47Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I like yogurt in almost every variation described in this thread, except for the sickeningly sweet kinds. It’s wonderful in cooking. My favorite way to make a leg of lamb is to mix yogurt with tamarind and garam masala, let the lamb marinate in this overnight, then cook the lamb until it is fall-apart tender.

That sounds awesome. Do you have a recipe, or do you just wing it?

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/103 "2019-04-22T01:06:59Z")

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nevermind.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/104 "2019-04-22T03:39:34Z")

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There are many different kinds of yogurt, with different degrees of “authenticity” – whatever the hell that even means – and perhaps the posters here who dislike it have just not had the type that appeals to them. My first reaction here would be to say that I love yogurt in its ordinary form as well as yogurt drinks, but a real yogurt connoisseur would probably scoff at the kinds I actually eat, which are sweet desert-like concoctions mixed with fruit and probably loaded with sugar and preservatives. I don’t care, it’s a nice dessert, and I like to tell myself that it’s “good for me” even if it’s not, leave me alone. 😃 I actually don’t eat all that much of it. My real weakness is Haagen-Dazs vanilla ice cream bars.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/105 "2019-04-22T06:23:31Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> Veal is a big one that a lot of people have a problem with. Also _foise gras_. Lots of things just by their method of production are entirely excluded.
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> For some products some methods are okay and others cause problems.
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> E.g., sugar from those Florida plantations that import underpaid and abused Haitian workers (lots of exemptions in US labor laws for them) is unethical to many.

Ok, so the production method may or may not be ethical, but the food itself is not unethical in and of itself.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/106 "2019-04-22T12:16:00Z")

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> [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> That sounds awesome. Do you have a recipe, or do you just wing it?

I just wing it, but something like 1 cup yogurt, 2 TBS tamarind paste, 1 TBS garam masala, and 1 TBS kosher salt is probably about right. Score the lamb a little so the marinade gets deep into the meat.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/107 "2019-04-22T18:43:12Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I just wing it, but something like 1 cup yogurt, 2 TBS tamarind paste, 1 TBS garam masala, and 1 TBS kosher salt is probably about right. Score the lamb a little so the marinade gets deep into the meat.

Thanks! And then how do you cook it? Braise in the marinade? Grill? What cut of lamb?

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/108 "2019-04-22T21:41:40Z")

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As I grew up, many of my school years included coming home each day and having yogurt as a delicious after-school snack. That was the 1970’s when stores seemed to have their own brand of dairy distributor and the offerings were [insert brand here] Yogurt with vanilla or chocolate or berries of some kind. The chocolate was always a weird taste and the rest were nice and sweet-offset-by-the-tanginess-of-yogurt. The variations were fruit-on-the-bottom or mixed and either regular or low-fat. Nobody was even bothering with non-fat back then so I assumed the fat part of milk was needed to feed the yogurt bacteria.

In the summer (between school years) Mom would fill those little fill-and-freeze popsicle molds with yogurt instead of juice. The resulting treats were delicious – though never as good as ice cream (there simply is no substitute for ice cream). I’ve noted in the Smoothie thread that I use a bit of yogurt in my smoothie concoctions.

The latest fad in high-protein yogurts (Greek, Icelandic, et cetera) is disappointing. They seem to overshadow the smooth creaminess of basic yogurt with a thick chalky goop that always feels like it’s quickly sinking to the bottom of my gut. I tried a lot of varieties and I just don’t bother buying them any more. Fortunately, some of the grocery stores still have their ‘generic’ brand of basic yogurt that I still like – and I still find them delicious!  
–G!

And if you’re complaining that yogurt is milk-gone-bad-with-age…  
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[li]Cheese = Milk gone moldy with age[/li][li]Beer = grain & hops & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Wine = fruit & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Sake = rice & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Vinegar = wine or sake (see above) gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]harder liquor = beer or wine (i.e. other stuff & water gone-bad-with-age) distilled[/li][li]Kimchee & Sauerkraut = Cabbage gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Politicians = Idealists gone-bad-with-age ;)[/li][/ul]

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/109 "2019-04-23T13:19:15Z")

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I hate yogurt. I always want it to be sour cream and it’s not!

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/110 "2019-04-23T13:56:08Z")

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I love yoghurt. in most every form - on top of my muesli, in my lassi, in the cacık with my meze. in the raita on my thali. I just don’t like the overly jellied stuff you get in Western supermarkets.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/111 "2019-04-23T14:30:18Z")

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I’ve never eaten unflavored/unsweetened yogurt. I seriously doubt that I’d like it.

I like vanilla, blueberry, strawberry, and cherry yogurt.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/112 "2019-04-23T14:46:31Z")

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Unflavored/unsweetened yogurt would be like making ice cream with only milk, heavy creme, & eggs.

Yes it’s ice cream, but a flavorless base. I don’t think it would sell. It needs some sugar, salt, and vanilla extract. Optionally, adding nuts & some kind of fruit or berries makes it even better.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/113 "2019-04-23T15:30:03Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Unflavored/unsweetened yogurt would be like making ice cream with only milk, heavy creme, & eggs.

Wouldn’t it instead be like selling plain whole milk to drink?

Lots of people drink milk and don’t find it necessary for it to have flavorings or sugar.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/114 "2019-04-23T15:40:47Z")

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I guess it’s possible to develop a taste for anything.

I’d skip yogurt altogether rather than eat it unflavored/unsweetened.

I wish yogurt manufacturers would cut the sugar by 20%. That would still be sweet enough for me.

I always request iced tea at restaurants mixed half sweet and half unsweetened. Their sweet tea always has too much sugar.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/115 "2019-04-23T18:17:05Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Yes it’s ice cream, but a flavorless base.

Have you ever actually \*had \*plain yoghurt? It is not “flavorless”.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/116 "2019-04-23T18:33:38Z")

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I used to think vanilla yogurt was plain yogurt.

I learned here a few years ago they sell a yogurt with no added flavoring.

I’ve never had any reason to try it.

I buy Stonyfield vanilla yogurt or their strawberry yogurt.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/117 "2019-04-23T18:49:17Z")

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> [@Grestarian](#):
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> And if you’re complaining that yogurt is milk-gone-bad-with-age…  
> [ul]  
> [li]Cheese = Milk gone moldy with age[/li][li]Beer = grain & hops & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Wine = fruit & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Sake = rice & water, digested & gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Vinegar = wine or sake (see above) gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]harder liquor = beer or wine (i.e. other stuff & water gone-bad-with-age) distilled[/li][li]Kimchee & Sauerkraut = Cabbage gone-bad-with-age[/li][li]Politicians = Idealists gone-bad-with-age ;)[/li][/ul]

Digested? Gone bad with age?

All of the above, save cheese, politicians and maybe sake are straight up yeast or bacterial fermentation, and in some cases both, such as vinegar. There may be an aging step, but the main thing is the fermentation.

The only ‘digestion’ I can think of in that list might be malting/mashing of the barley for beer, and the activity of the koji in sake, both of which change starch to sugars which can be fermented. But wine is just crushed and fermented, just like sauerkraut.

Yogurt is very similar to those- it’s fermented with specific bacteria.

But it’s ALL done under controlled conditions; that’s why wine isn’t just spoiled grape juice, and yogurt isn’t the same thing as cheese, buttermilk, kefir, quark, sour cream, creme fraiche, etc…

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/118 "2019-04-23T21:03:09Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I always request iced tea at restaurants mixed half sweet and half unsweetened. Their sweet tea always has too much sugar.

They don’t have sugar packets available so you can sweeten it to your taste?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/119 "2019-04-23T21:06:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> They don’t have sugar packets available so you can sweeten it to your taste?

They do. But, mixing sweet tea half and half with unsweetened is just as easy.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yogurt-is-not-delicious/832773/120 "2019-04-23T23:03:38Z")

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I can remember when I first saw yogurt advertised on TV – maybe 55-60 years ago? Knudsen brand showing a guy sitting outside a Swiss chalet eating it. I think they were going for that European ski vacation vibe. I’ve always liked yogurt in many different ways. In high school I got addicted to blueberry yogurt as a dip for Fritos. But once I’d tasted full fat Greek yogurt I haven’t eaten anything else. Love mango lassi! Yoplait is weird and kinda gross and not really yogurt.

Also, in high school a woman I worked with at the local public library gave me some of her yogurt as a starter to make my own. She was of Armenian background and either her mother or grandmother had brought the “ancestor” of my starter with her to the US. Her son told me that it would be great if every time one of these women dipped her spoon in the yogurt for starter for the next batch she got the same spoonful. How old that yogurt would be! Of course, it doesn’t really matter since the bacteria is descended from all the bacteria that was used from the beginning.

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