# Yojimboguy, Whore Monger ... er, Mover!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 17, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599 "2016-06-17T13:57:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/21 "2016-06-17T18:40:07Z")

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So the conversation actually continues. They just messaged me again, answering ONE of my questions. I replied and reminded them of the other questions. I have also suggested an in person meeting so we can discuss whether the job is suitable for us both.

I figured that is test 1. If they have an office that’s not a secret location or the passenger seat of a car, well, that’s at least an indicator of legitimacy.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/22 "2016-06-17T18:53:23Z")

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I’ll bet the $ 60 includes that you are expected to wait while the action goes down and take her back and come to the door and rescue her if the meeting gets dicey.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/23 "2016-06-17T18:53:46Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> How about an actual answer? Apparently there are “escort services” which remain legal _enough_ to operate in full view of the law. I don’t know specifically what services are provided, what I’ve said here are my own assumptions, though perhaps pretty good ones.

Here’s a [lawyer’s blog](http://www.milwaukeecriminallawyersblog.com/2014/09/17/wisconsin-laws-regarding-escorts-versus-prostitutes/)describing the difference between prostitution and an escort service in Wisconsin.

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> I refer you to my post #10. What could I demand of this company that would at very least I made an attempt to determine their legitimacy before agreeing to work with them. Not saying I will, though.

From the blog:

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> In contrast to a prostitute who provides sexual services, an escort, by definition, does not provide sexual services in exchange for anything of value. An escort is an individual who is paid to provide company for social affairs, entertainment purposes, or any general activity. Since an escort merely provides companionship, the service is legal. However, if an escort service is a cover for prostitution, it is illegal.
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> Many local cities in Wisconsin have passed ordinances mandating that any and all escorts and escort services must obtain a license and pay a fee in order to operate within the respective city limits. A few of these cities include Milwaukee, Appleton, Grand Chute, Schofield, and Weston.

So presumably you could ask to see their escort license.

The rationale of escort services is that they are merely providing the social services of the escort, and that anything else that happens is between the escort and the client. As long as you don’t have direct knowledge that payment for sex is taking place, I would presume you would have the same degree of deniability as the escort service.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/24 "2016-06-17T18:58:48Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Here’s a [lawyer’s blog](http://www.milwaukeecriminallawyersblog.com/2014/09/17/wisconsin-laws-regarding-escorts-versus-prostitutes/)describing the difference between prostitution and an escort service in Wisconsin.
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> From the blog:
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> So presumably you could ask to see their escort license.
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> The rationale of escort services is that they are merely providing the social services of the escort, and that anything else that happens is between the escort and the client. As long as you don’t have direct knowledge that payment for sex is taking place, I would presume you would have the same degree of deniability as the escort service.

Thank you. This is just the kind of information I’m looking for.

The area code of their phone number indicates the west Chicago burbs, though of course a cell phone could be anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/25 "2016-06-17T19:01:04Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> I’ll bet the $ 60 includes that you are expected to wait while the action goes down and take her back and come to the door and rescue her if the meeting gets dicey.

I’m not going to be rescuing anybody, though I’d call 911 if I saw signs of violence or crime, just like I would for anybody.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/26 "2016-06-17T19:26:06Z")

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Having Googled it, I’m not seeing that Madison itself offers licensing to escort services, though there seem to be dozens of classified ads offering escorts who offer one or another service, sometimes with time periods as short as 15 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/27 "2016-06-17T19:45:35Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> escorts who offer one or another service, sometimes with time periods as short as 15 minutes.

Maybe it’s as a dinner companion for going to the Burger King drive-thru window. 😉

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/28 "2016-06-17T19:51:47Z")

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Oh, let’s be positive. Perhaps they’re planning the menu for the client’s next dinner party at the Burger King.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/29 "2016-06-17T19:57:53Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Having Googled it, I’m not seeing that Madison itself offers licensing to escort services, though there seem to be dozens of classified ads offering escorts who offer one or another service, sometimes with time periods as short as 15 minutes.

Well… I’m thinking they could buy a cheap beater car and hire a cash hungry college kid to chauffeur Heather around for a lot less than $ 60 a ride. Tell us how it goes.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/30 "2016-06-17T20:12:16Z")

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Well, this IS the state capital, and I can imagine a lot of legislators and government movers and shakers who won’t want to cruise around town in beaters. Maybe it is in fact a real upscale operation catering to a power elite.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/31 "2016-06-17T20:14:00Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Well, this IS the state capital, and I can imagine a lot of legislators and government movers and shakers who won’t want to cruise around town in beaters. Maybe it is in fact a real upscale operation catering to a power elite.

I’m sorry I misunderstood. I thought this was just taking the girls to clients and then taking them back not taking couples around.

If only you were in Florida you could use [this license plate.](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/assorgy-story)

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/32 "2016-06-17T20:22:40Z")

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Suddenly I’m seeing you in [a whole different light.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKbgw2aK_eU). Time to get driving.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/33 "2016-06-17T20:23:21Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> I’m sorry I misunderstood. I thought this was just taking the girls to clients and then taking them back not taking couples around.
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> If only you were in Florida you could use [this license plate.](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/assorgy-story)

It might be, I don’t know enough detail to say. But the text message conversation is continuing.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/34 "2016-06-17T20:26:51Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I’m not going to be rescuing anybody, though I’d call 911 if I saw signs of violence or crime, just like I would for anybody.

If all she needs is a ride, she could use a taxi. Escorts have a driver to take them to jobs and to at least give the appearance of muscle. If she doesn’t get paid, neither do you.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/35 "2016-06-17T20:43:23Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> If all she needs is a ride, she could use a taxi. Escorts have a driver to take them to jobs and to at least give the appearance of muscle. If she doesn’t get paid, neither do you.

Which is also why is sounds so scammy. If they are looking for a driver who can double as some kind of protection, wouldn’t they want to at least _meet_ the guy before telling him they could have him working first thing in the morning?

I’m definitely not any kind of expert on this line of business, but it just really doesn’t sound like something I’d want to pursue to the point where I was giving over my personal information.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/36 "2016-06-17T20:58:37Z")

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That guy with the same name, address, SSN and DL number as yours is loving the job.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/37 "2016-06-17T21:01:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I know that transporting them across state lines can result in a Federal charge. I’ve never heard of any laws against driving a prostitute somewhere though, so love as the payment is in cash rather than “barter”.

_Illinois Penal Code Section 11-14.3. Promoting prostitution. Any person who knowingly performs any of the following acts commits promoting prostitution: profits from prostitution by arranging or offering to arrange a situation in which a person may practice prostitution._

I’m not an Illinois lawyer or an Illinois police officer. So I can’t say for certain that driving a prostitute to her job is a violation of this law. But I certainly think it’s a likely possibility.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/38 "2016-06-17T21:13:50Z")

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“Well your honor, I though it was a legitimate escort service. I figured I was just dropping the girl off at local hotel with hourly rates so she could attend some event with the guy and then get back there less than an hour later so I could pick her up and get paid. How was I supposed to know she was a prostitute?!?”

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/39 "2016-06-17T22:17:20Z")

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Yeah… I don’t think you’re just going to be driving

[So I got this side job where I drive/guard strippers/escorts](http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000393-nonstop-gaming-social/66013652)

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yojimboguy-whore-monger-er-mover/757599/40 "2016-06-20T21:40:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Let’s say for a moment it IS a real thing, that this is a “legitimate” escort service (I’m not entirely sure that’s even possible), and they are in fact looking for a reliable driver.
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> What should I demand from THEM to demonstrate their bona fides to ME?

Absolutely nothing. Get the name of their agency, and if it isn’t an agency with a name then full stop and move on. If they give you a name(Independent Angels Escort Service for example) then YOU research the agency yourself. Don’t believe a word they say without independent corroboration.

The Internet has made it possible for many agencies selling these services to exist and review and community sites have popped up as well. There is sure to be one for your area. They’ll have reviews of this agency, talking about things like how well they take care of business. Do they promptly return phone calls, do they meet appointments on time, are there reports of their girls stealing from clients, etc.

Basically are they a business or are they a bunch of criminal thieves looking to screw people out of their money without having to do honest work. Because if they’re the latter then you want nothing to do with them because it’s only a matter of time before it goes badly for them and when it does they’ll take everyone and anyone they can down with them.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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