# You are a bunch of losers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 2, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781 "2003-07-02T14:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/1 "2003-07-02T14:56:00Z")
[http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/07/02/popsci.stereo.kill/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/07/02/popsci.stereo.kill/index.html) How much time must one have on their hands to come up with this? My mind is boggled by this. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/2 "2003-07-02T15:00:32Z")
Thats about the most specialist hobby i’ve ever come across, and I have to say [size = 10]What’s the freaking point?!?!?[/size] ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/3 "2003-07-02T15:11:07Z")
Aw, they’re not losers! They’re just…different. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/4 "2003-07-02T15:11:08Z")
Why not just join the artillery? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/5 "2003-07-02T15:14:05Z")
These guys even make ricers look good. What the hell is the point? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/6 "2003-07-02T15:15:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Carl\_A\_Norris \* > [size = 10]What’s the freaking point?!?!?[/size] WHAT?! ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/7 "2003-07-02T15:32:24Z")
> [@](#): > > **As Troy Irving’s partner, Jason Bradley, explains, “You start out with a nice stereo in your everyday car, and it grows and grows and eventually gets out of control. The sad thing is, I don’t even have a stereo in my daily driver anymore,” he says, laughing. "Every dime I have goes into this equipment."** Kind of ironic. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/8 "2003-07-02T15:33:50Z")
Such waste, especially considering all those poor kids in Africa with nothing but AM. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/9 "2003-07-02T15:35:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by friedo \* > \*\*WHAT?! \*\* go easy on me it was my first attempt to use size. I was aiming for What’s the freaking point?!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/10 "2003-07-02T15:35:53Z")
I’m still stunned that they “reinforce” their car doors with cement! Shouldn’t these guys be pulling down a living putting in car stereos or something? ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/11 "2003-07-02T15:42:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Carl\_A\_Norris \* > \*\*go easy on me it was my first attempt to use size. I was aiming for > > What’s the freaking point?!?!?! \*\* [color]You’ll have to speak up Carl! I still can’t hear you and my heart is starting to beat erratically from the bass![/color] ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/12 "2003-07-02T15:42:50Z")
Well, if they could generate that low frequency tone that either neil young or the army is working on that forces contractions in the colon causing unintended defecation in ones trousers, I might just sponsor one of these decibel dunderheads myself. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/13 "2003-07-02T16:10:42Z")
[Wired article](http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.10/stereocar.html) from 2000 on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/14 "2003-07-02T16:12:39Z")
I remember seeing some program on this sort of thing a few years ago. there were two groups of people… I fogret the names they had given themselves. One lot wanted to make as much noise with their car sterios as possible, the other lot wanted the best possible sound quality from their car sterio. Either way, both groups were going out spending stupid amounts of money on their cars. I was just left wondering if all of that is covered under their insurance… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/15 "2003-07-02T16:58:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > Well, if they could generate that low frequency tone that either neil young or the army is working on that forces contractions in the colon causing unintended defecation in ones trousers, I might just sponsor one of these decibel dunderheads myself.\*\* Perhaps they are the descendents of Throbbing Gristle? ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/16 "2003-07-02T17:21:30Z")
I have a friend who has **three farads** of capacitance on the power supply for his car audio. His amp can deliver **1800** watts RMS and _double that for peaks_ if he feels like rewiring it. He had to get a special **150 Amp** high output alternator because when he drove while playing music, his battery would be dead when he got home. To solve that issue, he installed a deep cycle marine grade sealed battery with Absorbed Glass Mat technology. It delivers **1,400** cold cranking amps via the high discharge from the glass mat’s massive surface area. It has a 120 Amp hour reserve at a 20 Amp hour delivery rate. It can cycle down to an 8 Volt baseline 500 times before deteriorating. Before he changed batteries, his car lights would dim during night driving if he turned up the music too loud. He also installed a 15 amp standard AC outlet in his car. Currently, he’s migrating over to compact server based MP3 file storage to eliminate any need for CDs. Half a gigabyte of RAM will augment 40 gigs of mass storage. The hard drives will short cycle for file shunting and then shut off to avoid head touchdowns while driving. And, yes, your ears do bleed when he cranks up the volume while you’re in the car. To be fair, he carries high quality industrial ear plugs in his car at all times and refuses to expose small children to such sound levels. ---
**Author:** ![confiteor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@confiteor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confiteor)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/17 "2003-07-02T17:23:12Z")
Hah, fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/18 "2003-07-02T17:53:07Z")
Zenster, at least that systems **plays music** , right? ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/19 "2003-07-02T17:54:41Z")
Welcome aboard(s), **confiteor**! ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781/20 "2003-07-02T18:02:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > **I have a friend who has three farads of capacitance on the power supply for his car audio. His amp can deliver 1800 watts RMS and _double that for peaks_ if he feels like rewiring it. He had to get a special 150 Amp high output alternator because when he drove while playing music, his battery would be dead when he got home. To solve that issue, he installed a deep cycle marine grade sealed battery with Absorbed Glass Mat technology. It delivers 1,400 cold cranking amps via the high discharge from the glass mat’s massive surface area. It has a 120 Amp hour reserve at a 20 Amp hour delivery rate. It can cycle down to an 8 Volt baseline 500 times before deteriorating. Before he changed batteries, his car lights would dim during night driving if he turned up the music too loud.** Egads :eek: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-a-bunch-of-losers/185781.md?page=2)