# You are dead, Iceman. NOW BURN IN HELL! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381 "2006-03-07T15:33:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/1 "2006-03-07T15:33:41Z")
Richard “The Iceman” Duklinski, a Dumont, New Jersey hit man who turned raging psychosis into a string of lucrative killings died Monday in the prison wing of a Trenton hospital. Kuklinski shot, stabbed, stangled and poisoned his way into the upper echelon of mass murderers. As a Gambino crime family enforcer, he was known for killing with such ease that even “wiseguys” became timid around him. My only regret is that he died peacefully in a hospital bed. Over 100 of his victims were not so lucky. > **[NJ news from Bergen, Passaic | Bergen Record](https://www.northjersey.com/)** > > Get the latest news, information, sports, food, entertainment, real estate, video and opinion in Bergen, Passaic, Morris and Essex counties in NJ. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/2 "2006-03-07T15:59:35Z")
A man like a brush fire, leaving the ashes of the lives of others in his wake. He won’t be missed. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/3 "2006-03-07T16:09:09Z")
While I always enjoy a forced bit of poetic and emotional diarrhea, this… > [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > A man like a brush fire, leaving the ashes of the lives of others in his wake. …was lame. Jack Handy, is that you? Anyway, I’m glad the guy is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/4 "2006-03-07T16:21:55Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > While I always enjoy a forced bit of poetic and emotional diarrhea, this… > > …was lame. > > Jack Handy, is that you? > Anyway, I’m glad the guy is dead. \< slaps **Greathouse** with a Wet Trout \> ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/5 "2006-03-07T16:28:28Z")
He was 70 and could do no more harm. With his death some very bad people might escape prosecution. His burning in hell I will second, but I wish he had lived long enough to provide more testimony. Jim ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/6 "2006-03-07T16:29:12Z")
The reason this is in the news is because this psychopath’s death, under questionable circumstances, essentially collapses the case against the head of a criminal organisation who employed him. Amid all this wishful thinking about the curious fiction called “hell”, note that his continued life in order to give testimony might have had positive consequences in convicting Gravano. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/7 "2006-03-07T16:32:36Z")
> [@SentientMeat](#): > > Amid all this wishful thinking about the curious fiction called “hell”, note that his continued life in order to give testimony might have had positive consequences in convicting Gravano. Very true. In light of this, it’s actually quite a shame he’s dead. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/8 "2006-03-07T16:35:40Z")
Like other hitmen, the majority of his victims will be there in hell with him. Sounds like he killed some outsiders too, but most mob hits are on other mobsters. Not only wouldn’t I waste any time grieving over him, I wouldn’t feel too bad for most of his targets. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/9 "2006-03-07T16:57:09Z")
George Gervin is dead? And, geez, what did he ever do to you? ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/10 "2006-03-07T17:28:29Z")
And here I was expecting a savage Pitting of the Bronze Age hunter whose frozen body was found in the Italian Alps. Hey, Otzi! You suck! News flash, moron: some of your contemporaries have been experimenting with a radical new technology known as “fire.” Maybe you’ve heard of it? It helps prevent you from getting frozen in a fucking glacier. Nice hat, by the way. I see your people used every part of the bear, including its ass. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/11 "2006-03-07T17:59:51Z")
And thank you **Terrifel** , for making the joke I came to make, and doing it better than I was going to. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/12 "2006-03-07T18:16:47Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Nice hat, by the way. I see your people used every part of the bear, including its ass. And **Terrifel** is an expert on Bears’ Asses, years of experience. 😃😛😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/13 "2006-03-07T18:18:14Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > George Gervin is dead? And, geez, what did he ever do to you? That devastating finger roll hurt a LOT of people who didn’t think the Spurs were going to cover the spread. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/14 "2006-03-07T18:47:32Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Hey, Otzi! You suck! News flash, moron: some of your contemporaries have been experimenting with a radical new technology known as “fire.” Maybe you’ve heard of it? It helps prevent you from getting frozen in a fucking glacier. I know this is the pit, but I feel compelled to fight this ignorance. Otzi, if that is his real name, was actually carrying a fire starting kit. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/15 "2006-03-07T19:13:51Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > And **Terrifel** is an expert on Bears’ Asses, years of experience. 😃😛😃 Hey, at least I don’t _wear_ them. Where I hail from, sporting a hat like that is practically an invitation for people to pummel you into unconsciousness, drag you into the hills, and leave you there with an arrow in your back and your dick stuck to a glacier. > [@adam yax](#): > > I know this is the pit, but I feel compelled to fight this ignorance. Otzi, if that was his real name, was actually carrying a fire starting kit. Yeah, for all the good it did him. If only he’d had something handy like a huge, greasy hat to burn for warmth. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/16 "2006-03-07T19:46:51Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > I know this is the pit, but I feel compelled to fight this ignorance. Otzi, if that is his real name, was actually carrying a fire starting kit. So can we pit him for being a dumbass by not starting a fire with said kit? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/17 "2006-03-07T20:00:34Z")
I thought Otzi was shot in the back. Perhaps it was a hit? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/18 "2006-03-07T20:03:10Z")
I may need some clarification on his victims. If you’ve read Pileggi’s book Wiseguy, (\*GoodFellas[i/] was based on it), Jimmy Burke and Tommy DeSimone were the muscle. The guys they killed weren’t exactly angels. The deaths disrupted many innocents, but those killed knew what they were getting into for the most part. That said, I can’t automatically sympathize with some of the victims. But overall I agree he’s burning in hell. The only drawback is the info he takes with him to indict and convict the other criminals. Take it for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/19 "2006-03-07T20:53:34Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > Perhaps it was a hit? Hit! Very oggable hit! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381/20 "2006-03-07T22:04:22Z")
So, not a Pit thread about Top Gun, then. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-dead-iceman-now-burn-in-hell/347381.md?page=2)