# You are hypocrites, Dopers; and don't read threads; also, fuck Bill Gates & Spielberg

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**Created:** [December 20, 2005, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439 "2005-12-20T11:21:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/1 "2005-12-20T11:21:13Z")

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You refer to me as the one who flames others, as the troll, as the ‘bully’ in a few cases. Yet a few of you were wise enough to realize that I was the one who didn’t fling shit at others, like in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=348649), wherein **The King of Soup** remarks that although my OP is hostile and ill-conceived as hell, I did not reciprocate shit-flinging to any member (yet shit was flung at me for four pages).

**Siege** once called me a bully for insulting **Qadgop** for simply mentioning him in my OP as I did, him having done me no wrong. What’s it called when scores of users whom I have done no wrong gang up on me and insult me? You are schoolyard punks (and bitches, too ;)). I didn’t reciprocate, yet you continued. Bad form.

Not only that, but fuck you for your behavior in that thread for this reason also- as we all know, most members here just cruise along, pop into a thread, pull down their pants, and squirt out a post without having read the OP or any other post in said thread. In that thread I linked to, we see this in full effect- many, many times the same insults are used again and again, as if no one can hear anyone else talk. You people are pathetic, deaf sheep- you may be pointing and laughing at me, yet you don’t seem to realize that you are repeating the same ideas that have been said countless times in that thread; if only people realized this, and knew how

\*\*fucking god-damned, cunt-licking, exasperatingly, screamingly, blood-boilingly, mind-numbingly, fucked-up-the ass, semen jizz guzzleingly ANNOYING that was. \*\*

As an example of the worst of these, take [**Kalhoun** ’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6882347&postcount=115)- please! :rolleyes: You just pop in the thread and shit out a post as if you were the first to say those two comments, when in actuality those two were expressed 6 and 2 other times before you, respectively (I counted). For the love of fucking Christ pubic hairs on a dirty tampon with maggots, do you people think that you are impressing others with this shit!!!

## This is just a preface to a few rants, but I do this in expectation of hostility- and frankly, you can’t blame me for that. Not just expectation, but hope- I hope this doesn’t count as trolling, but I want the usual crowd to come along to shit on me, so that I can reciprocate in kind this time. Let’s do this.

[Bill Gates and wife Melinda were just named Time’s People of the Year, along with Bono](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/18/time.poy/index.html). The reason? “The Gateses, the magazine notes, “spent the year giving more money away faster than anyone ever has.”… In January, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation committed $750 million to improving access to child immunizations, accelerating introduction of new vaccines and strengthening vaccine delivery systems.” And besides this, Gates has of course given away dozens of billions of his fortune over the years-

but that doesn’t make him or his supermodel wife worthy of People of the Year. :smack: Bill Gates has 46.5 billion dollars, for fuck’s sake- he could have single-handedly paid off the 40 billion dollar debt owed by the poorest countries to the richest countries (the one that Bono had to “morally blackmail” the leaders of the richest countries into erasing) and still have had enough left over to buy everyone in Africa a Whopper with fries and then _still_ have had enough left over to provide absolute comfort and luxury for himself and his family for eons. Warren Buffet’s supposedly going to be giving away 99% of his 44 billion to his charity when he dies. It’s like the story of the widow’s mite in the New Testament (not to get religious or preachy, just to use an allusion)- the rich man who gives a huge sum doesn’t mean jack shit compared to the poor who give a significant _portion_ of their earnings- okay, so Gates has given over a third of his earnings away from what I read once, but I’m still being ungrateful and saying he’s undeserving of praise because it’s the least he could’ve done, seeing as

-he’s unfathomably wealthy (with more money than he and his family will ever need)  
-is still keeping the vast majority of that wealth  
-is a little bitch who stole other’s ideas and crushed smaller businesses on the way to where he is now

## In other words, fuck Time magazine’s choice of that little bitch Gates.

Steven Spielberg is coming out with Munich, already being hailed as a great film.

How much you wanna bet that it’s ‘great’ in the same way other Spielberg films are great- masterful directing creating a powerful, emotional experience that causes the adult viewer to take on a child-like wonder for the subject material (which is all superb, but)- NO FUCKING INTELLIGENT IDEAS OR ANY IDEAS AT ALL (_CERTAINLY_ NOT CONTROVERSIAL ONES) OR ANY SUBSTANCE BESIDES THE LITERAL ACTION AND VIOLENCE AND DRAMA; yet it will be critically acclaimed, will sweep the Academy Awards, and will win the hearts of the Americans who don’t ever stop to think for one fucking second about the fucking movies they sit their fucking asses down in front of with a big bowl of popcorn to watch in the multiplexes they shuffle off to as mindless zombies devoid of any artistic concepts when it comes to analyzing films.

I know, I sound arrogant, like some film school brat who sits around studying Godard all day or something; but for the love of Og, Saving Private Ryan is nothing but special effects and emotional action; so is Schindler’s List. Jerry Bruckheimer could do that if he wanted.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/2 "2005-12-20T11:28:43Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> Warren Buffet’s supposedly going to be giving away 99% of his 44 billion to his charity when he dies. It’s like the story of the widow’s mite in the New Testament (not to get religious or preachy, just to use an allusion)- the rich man who gives a huge sum doesn’t mean jack shit compared to the poor who give a significant _portion_ of their earnings- okay, so Gates has given over a third of his earnings away from what I read once, but I’m still being ungrateful and saying he’s undeserving of praise because it’s the least he could’ve done, seeing as …

You are aware, are you not, that Gates has promised to give away 95% of his wealth?

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/3 "2005-12-20T11:34:51Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> You are aware, are you not, that Gates has promised to give away 95% of his wealth?

No. When did he say this? It goes to his foundation? When he dies, I assume?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/4 "2005-12-20T11:38:00Z")

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Wow.

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**Author:** ![matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@matt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/5 "2005-12-20T11:39:37Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> You people are pathetic, deaf sheep- you may be pointing and laughing at me, yet you don’t seem to realize that you are repeating the same ideas that have been said countless times in that thread; if only people realized this, and knew how
> 
> \*\*fucking god-damned, cunt-licking, exasperatingly, screamingly, blood-boilingly, mind-numbingly, fucked-up-the ass, semen jizz guzzleingly ANNOYING that was. \*\*

I read somewhere that Bill Gates is going to give away 95% of his wealth, so you are wrong, hah!

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/6 "2005-12-20T11:44:04Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> No. When did he say this? It goes to his foundation? When he dies, I assume?

From a [Playboy interview](http://beginnersinvest.about.com/od/billgates/l/blbillgatesint5.htm):

> [@Bill Gates](#):
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> It’s a ridiculous number. But remember, 95 percent of it I’m just going to give away. [Smiles] Don’t tell people to write me letters. I’m saving that for when I’m in my 50s. It’s a lot to give away and it’s going to take time.

From an [interview](http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_gates.html) with Bill Moyers:

> [@Bill Gates](#):
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> So you know once you decide that over 95 percent of it’s going back to society, then you do start talking about where it will go.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/7 "2005-12-20T11:47:53Z")

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He has done a damn sight more then most in his tax bracket.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/8 "2005-12-20T11:49:03Z")

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I’ve got to know—

Do you get up early to start your day off like this? Or do you stay up late and just wind up like this?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/9 "2005-12-20T11:54:34Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> No. When did he say this? It goes to his foundation? **When he dies, I assume?**

This deserves comment all by itself. Barring an unforeseen death, he fully plans to have unloaded almost all of it before his death. He plans on leaving his children a fortune of several million when he dies.

Are you aware of how much of his one time fortune is already in the hands of his foundation?

You can attack him for his business tactics, his haircut, his taste in clothing, or just about anything, but when it comes to philanthropy, he has no peer.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/10 "2005-12-20T12:07:19Z")

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Well, **andrewdt85** … you make dizzyingly annoying posts to read. Those same posts are written at what appears to be a junior high school level. Improve your writing ability and maybe more people will take the time to read your posts.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/11 "2005-12-20T12:39:36Z")

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Baaaa. Baaaaaa. \<squirt\>

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/12 "2005-12-20T12:50:10Z")

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You know, **Andrew** , you sound like some film school brat who sits around studying Godard all day or something.

Anyway, for some reason this was running through my head after reading the OP:

_Take back  
Steven Spielberg  
Take back  
That damn Bono  
Take back  
Bill and Melinda  
Give 'em all somewhere to go  
You’re jammin me…_

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/13 "2005-12-20T12:56:55Z")

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The special effects in Schindler’s List were truly awesome. I loved it when the T1000 melted itself back together from gold fillings.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/14 "2005-12-20T13:02:57Z")

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Personally my Schindlers List highlight was when Steven Segal saved all the hostages on the Dachau train and outran the explosion to jump onto the rope ladder from the awaiting helicopter.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/15 "2005-12-20T13:05:46Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> You refer to me as the one who flames others, as the troll, as the ‘bully’ in a few cases.

Who is this ‘you’, exactly?

> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> as we all know, most members here just cruise along, pop into a thread, pull down their pants, and squirt out a post without having read the OP or any other post in said thread.

‘Most’ members is how many in your opinion?  
And what is your evidence for this wild claim?

> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> This is just a preface to a few rants, but I do this in expectation of hostility- and frankly, you can’t blame me for that. Not just expectation, but hope- I hope this doesn’t count as trolling, but I want the usual crowd to come along to shit on me, so that I can reciprocate in kind this time. Let’s do this.

**Why** do you want to do this?  
Here we have a largely intelligent, mature, sophisticated discussion board and you just want to exchange insults.

> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> I know, I sound arrogant…

Pathetic and timewasting too. 😛  
Is there **nothing** you’d rather be doing than this?

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/16 "2005-12-20T13:15:06Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> Well, andrewdt85… you make dizzyingly annoying posts to read. Those same posts are written at what appears to be a junior high school level. Improve your writing ability and maybe more people will take the time to read your posts.

A lot of the ‘writing ability’ that other Dopers yield- such as Case Sensitive, who will be showing up here eventually- is merely excellent English wielded in a pretentious way. Fuck that, I just say what I mean instead of using unnecessary and snobby wording to make verbal attacks on people in the Pit; sure, I _could_ do that, but spending time constructing sentences of a gratuitous and superflous ingenuity and afterwords exulting in the fruition of your prose WENT OUT OF STYLE IN THE 17 FUCKING HUNDREDS.

(I got ‘exult’ and ‘fruition’ from a thesaurus, honestly)

> [@DMC](#):
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> Are you aware of how much of his one time fortune is already in the hands of his foundation?

Is it the same as what I cited in my OP?:

> [@](#):
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> okay, so Gates has given over a third of his earnings away from what I read once

> [@Samclem](#):
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> I’ve got to know—
> 
> Do you get up early to start your day off like this? Or do you stay up late and just wind up like this?

I was up all night, having slept most of yesterday (having been up the night before studying for an exam the next day). Heh, I start more shit by 6 am than most Dopers do all day. 😉

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/17 "2005-12-20T13:20:58Z")

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You’ve got too much time on your hands. Howsabout a different hobby? Have you ever tried [scrimshaw](http://www.scrimshaw.com/)?

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/18 "2005-12-20T13:26:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _andrewdt85_  
> […] we see this in full effect- many, many times the same insults are used again and again, as if no one can hear anyone else talk

Fuck man, don’t knock the ostinato. From Holst’s _Mars_ (from _The Planets_ Suite to Malcom Young’s riffing with AC/DC, it’s a revered technique. A good Pit thread’s like _Mars_: da-da-dum-da-da-da-dum da-da-dum-da-da-da-dum da-da-dum-da-da-da-dum da-da-dum-da-da-da-dum Goat Cannon

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/19 "2005-12-20T13:26:33Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> You’ve got too much time on your hands. Howsabout a different hobby? Have you ever tried [scrimshaw](http://www.scrimshaw.com/)?

Have you ever tried the ancient art of[jamming a pair of scissors into your crotch?](http://www.armchair.mb.ca/~scissors/) (seriously, it will change your life!)

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/20 "2005-12-20T13:26:39Z")

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I read somewhere that Gates plans to give away 95% of his fortune.

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