# You are hypocrites, Dopers; and don't read threads; also, fuck Bill Gates & Spielberg

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2005, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439 "2005-12-20T11:21:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/41 "2005-12-20T14:52:37Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> I know of Wikipedia, and I use it more than thou, **FaerieBeth** -  
> I didn’t bother looking up Melinda, because she’s not very important; it’s not like if she wasn’t sucking Bill’s dick (and didn’t have a pretty face to do it with) she would ever have accomplished what she has. So fuck you for thinking that I care about that bitch cunt and her role- I hardly mentioned her at all, because she’s hardly worth mentioning.

> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> (I was basing this on false rumors and assumptions).

Without name calling or shit-flinging, I made a good-faith effort to point you to an article you could have checked in order to further your information on a topic you admitted you knew nothing about.  
Please point out to me any obscenity that I used or shit I flung.

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/42 "2005-12-20T14:53:36Z")

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I haven’t read any of the posts here or, indeed, the OP.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/43 "2005-12-20T14:55:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Your response was great, but yes, I want to fling shit (said that in my OP). As you can read in past threads, I took shit without reciprocating. Now it’s time to fling shit back and forth to make me feel better.
> 
> If this is trolling, then close this thread

You know, you’re right:

> [@](#):
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> This is just a preface to a few rants, but I do this in expectation of hostility- and frankly, you can’t blame me for that. Not just expectation, but hope- I hope this doesn’t count as trolling, but I want the usual crowd to come along to shit on me, so that I can reciprocate in kind this time. Let’s do this.

:rolleyes: So, you come in here and complain about people throwing shit at you, and start a thread merely to fling shit? Well, it’s to be expected from the Pit I suppose but it sure does seem like a self-defeating prophecy. When will you complain about the shit being flung in this thread?

I will try never to post nicely in a thread started by you again. Better yet, I will try not to post in your threads anymore.

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/44 "2005-12-20T14:55:40Z")

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> [@FaerieBeth](#):
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> Without name calling or shit-flinging, I made a good-faith effort to point you to an article you could have checked in order to further your information on a topic you admitted you knew nothing about.  
> Please point out to me any obscenity that I used or shit I flung.

You didn’t, FB, but Contrapuntal called me an ass for my mistake, and **don’t ask** made a crack about me giving away 95% of my brain matter. This is shit-flinging.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/45 "2005-12-20T14:56:47Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> (I was basing this on false rumors and assumptions).

Always a valid basis for a Pit rant.

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**Author:** ![Alma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/46 "2005-12-20T14:58:09Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> See, I’m flinging back now. You fling shit, I fling shit.

Do you not see that you flung the first shit? Seriously, you were out of my radar until now, and your silly generalizations in this OP are not ingratiating you to the vast majority of dopers who don’t much care what kind of personal spats you have, but rather would read quality posts.

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/47 "2005-12-20T14:58:28Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> I haven’t read any of the posts here or, indeed, the OP.

You can be excused because you have a kangaroo to keep up with.

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/48 "2005-12-20T15:04:15Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> I haven’t read any of the posts here or, indeed, the OP.

See, this highlights something else that sucks here: SD members not only can’t read what already been written in the thread they are in, but they have never, _ever_ read another thread! (that is, except for the obviously funny ones like ‘i burning your dog’ or 1920s style death ray). They make the same joke each time they enter a Pit thread, for example, in which the OP talks about something that sucks at the SD, by doing the very thing that the OP speaks of, as if this joke had never been done in any such Pit thread before!

Actually, I think I’ve figured it out- Dopers are a strange group of individuals who are intelligent and educated, yet have short-term memory loss- so much, in fact, that they forget not only the jokes they have made in threads weeks and months and years ago, but also the OPs and subsequents posts others have made in a given thread that they are reading, so by the time they post their message, all it contains is an educated discourse that shows off their knowledge while ignoring anything anyone else has said anywhere else in the thread (except a vague concept, of course, of the topic of the thread, which they hung onto in their minds), and then they leave the thread, scurrying off to enter other threads and do the same. They have no memory of past posts they or others have made, or any memory of posts they read in a thread they enter, except a general memory of what topic they are giving a discourse on (or making a joke or comment about). That explains everything!

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/49 "2005-12-20T15:10:09Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Always a valid basis for a Pit rant.

FUCK!!!

Okay, guys, just FUCKING STOP FOR A SECOND AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LITTLE SHIT HERE NAMED **tdn** -

this shit makes this comment, basing his comment on the assumption that my entire Pit rant was about Melinda Gates. I JUST EXPLAINED HOW SHE WAS NOT EVEN WORTH RESEARCHING BECAUSE SHE WASN’T EVEN PART OF MY RANT.

Okay, so I’m overreacting, as usual. I just can’t take it anymore… no one reads OPs… they make comments about ‘always a valid basis for a pit rant’ when it was already clearly harked on that the topic I made a minor glitch on was nothing and not at all a major point of the OP… **tdn** , you exemplify the type of Doper I hate- you have shit lodged into your ears.

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**Author:** ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/50 "2005-12-20T15:12:05Z")

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Your OP that you complained about was pointlessly rude to Qadgop and you deserved to be called on it.

And Bill Gates is giving away 95% of his wealth, so you shouldn’t rag on him either.

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**Author:** ![Alma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/51 "2005-12-20T15:16:16Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> FUCK!!!

Dude, you are seriously entertaining. Keep it up.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/52 "2005-12-20T15:18:02Z")

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**andrewdt85** : I don’t think a thread like this could possibly do you any good on these boards. Instead of being treated seriously, you are just convincing more people that you are a silly and ignorant person.  
You have already been given examples about how you are actually ignorant of the Gates family commitment to the Carnegie Model or philanthropic activities.

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> Many persons of wealth have contributed to charity, but Carnegie was perhaps the first to state publicly that the rich have a moral obligation to give away their fortunes. In 1889 he wrote The Gospel of Wealth, in which he asserted that all personal wealth beyond that required to supply the needs of one’s family should be regarded as a trust fund to be administered for the benefit of the community.

Once again I give the advice to stay out of the pit and ask intelligent questions like your ones about  
[What’s the best site for looking at pictures of models/toys based on films?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=350248)[What’s the name of that Chinese food with the meat and egg surrounded by brown gravy?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=349625)  
You should calm down and stop picking fights with members of the boards or in this case most of the board.  
You risk people just tuning you out and then you will only get replies from those that enjoy making you look dumb.

Jim

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**Author:** ![andrewdt85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@andrewdt85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewdt85)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/53 "2005-12-20T15:25:27Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> **andrewdt85** : I don’t think a thread like this could possibly do you any good on these boards. Instead of being treated seriously, you are just convincing more people that you are a silly and ignorant person.  
> You have already been given examples about how you are actually ignorant of the Gates family commitment to the Carnegie Model or philanthropic activities.
> 
> Once again I give the advice to stay out of the pit and ask intelligent questions like your ones about  
> [What’s the best site for looking at pictures of models/toys based on films?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=350248)[What’s the name of that Chinese food with the meat and egg surrounded by brown gravy?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=349625)  
> You should calm down and stop picking fights with members of the boards or in this case most of the board.  
> You risk people just tuning you out and then you will only get replies from those that enjoy making you look dumb.
> 
> Jim

Indeed, I was proven wrong about Gates, what with the 95% figure- that one figure is what proves me wrong about him, and I admit it, and I’m glad to know the truth about Gates now.

But I’m not ranting about Gates now- I was just screaming about how someone thought my OP was about Melinda Gates when it wasn’t. At all. Period. Fucking period. Stop talking about Melinda.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/54 "2005-12-20T15:27:30Z")

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And I thought today was going to be a **boring** day in the Pit. We’ll miss you when you flame out, **Andrew**. You made things interesting around here.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/55 "2005-12-20T15:28:41Z")

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So, how much of his wealth is Bill Gates going to give away?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/56 "2005-12-20T15:29:30Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> First circumsize it while driving your SUV with one hand and talking on a cell phone with the other on a call to the NRA.

You think you’re funny, but you wouldn’t be so fat if only you _ate less_ and _exercised more!!_ :rolleyes:

Also, I read somewhere that Gates will be giving away 95% of his wealth.

As for the OP, I think that…

…Ooh! Shiny!

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**Author:** ![dre2xl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@dre2xl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dre2xl)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/57 "2005-12-20T15:29:57Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> Heh, I start more shit by 6 am than most Dopers do all day. 😉

Very, very, very true, but not for the reasons you think.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/58 "2005-12-20T15:34:11Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> You know, you’re right:
> 
> :rolleyes: So, you come in here and complain about people throwing shit at you, and start a thread merely to fling shit? Well, it’s to be expected from the Pit I suppose but it sure does seem like a self-defeating prophecy. When will you complain about the shit being flung in this thread?
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> I will try never to post nicely in a thread started by you again. Better yet, I will try not to post in your threads anymore.

It’s like this: I see Andrew has started another thread bitching about people flinging shit, and I tell myself NOT to read it because it’s just another train wreck. But then we all can’t help but to look at a train wreck, so what the hell I say, and I read it.

Then shock of all shocks, he wants to be shit flung upon. So now I perceive **Andrew** to be something like the geek at the carnival, just standing and asking people to throw chicken bones and what-not at him.

So I scroll and read, and marvel and wonder at what posesses someone to be so incredibly fucking hostile to everyone and everything, and the glee with which his arguments and statements are tossed back in his face by people smarter, more eloquent and not nearly so neagtive as him. And when they do so, well shit my pants, don’t you know, that wasn’t the MAIN POINT of his OP, and how dare you comment on it?

So as this goes on, I think well, they’re handling it alright, you know - the mysterious “they”, who can also be “you” or “them”. And I stay out of it.

Except for this, try saying “Feeble shit flinging feeds the flinging of shit freely” ten times really fast. If you do it in the dark into a mirror, you’ll see the ghostly image of **Andrew** insulting you in his own special “creative” way.

Seriously for a second, Andrew: What do you LIKE? We’re all pretty much versed in any number of things you hate. So what do you like? Fuzzy kittens? Snot nosed kids having a snowball fight? Sunrises? Sunsets? The smell of fresh baked bread? Sleeping in late? Come on, I bet you’re just a sentimental little fuck when it comes down to it, right? 😛

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/59 "2005-12-20T15:35:35Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> So, how much of his wealth is Bill Gates going to give away?

I heard he gave away 95% of it already. Back in the 60’s. Took him 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-hypocrites-dopers-and-dont-read-threads-also-fuck-bill-gates-spielberg/336439/60 "2005-12-20T15:36:45Z")

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Your post made me laugh, **Busy Guy**. Thanks.

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