# You are unawarely worshipping the Sun. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 10, 2014, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788 "2014-04-10T08:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/41 "2014-04-10T21:31:17Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > I’m sure this question has been asked before, but, in that case, on a clear day why can’t I look up and see Europe from Australia? Dilation, of course! (Or something… karol’s incapable of responding to specific questions with specific answers.) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/42 "2014-04-10T21:49:24Z")
Ah, I read about this “inside out Earth” cult in a book years ago, by Martin Gardner I think. An old bit of hollow-Earth lunacy revitalized by some mathematician who came up with the distorted space version. > [@Grey](#): > > Of course if we’re actually inside the earth why to seismic waves propagate as if we’re on a sphere? > [@Giles](#): > > I’m sure this question has been asked before, but, in that case, on a clear day why can’t I look up and see Europe from Australia? Actually that can be explained. If spacetime was distorted the right way it would look like a heliocentric universe even while we lived inside an inverted Earth containing the universe. Our instruments would see no difference because they and whatever they are using would be just as distorted. You couldn’t see Europe from Australia because the light would have to cross the entire universe inside the Earth first. Of course the same would be true if we were all inside any other inverted-planet in the universe. It’s an example of why the Copernican Principle (assume we aren’t special) and Occam’s Razor are generally good ideas. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/43 "2014-04-10T21:59:54Z")
> [@karol](#): > > The science of the “Solar System” is the continuation of the ancient beliefs that sun was god. > What does a modern, devoted follower do ? He guards the official claims by all means. > > [The modern Solar Cult. Part 1 - Google Docs](http://ow.ly/vDaLz) Wow. Heavy. I never thought of it like that. I’m in…Where do I send the money? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/44 "2014-04-10T22:05:15Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Wow. Heavy. I never thought of it like that. > I’m in…Where do I send the money? Somewhere inside the earth. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![randompattern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@randompattern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randompattern)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/45 "2014-04-10T22:07:04Z")
I liked the Roadrunner cartoon, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/46 "2014-04-10T23:28:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Actually that can be explained. If spacetime was distorted the right way it would look like a heliocentric universe even while we lived inside an inverted Earth containing the universe. Our instruments would see no difference because they and whatever they are using would be just as distorted. You couldn’t see Europe from Australia because the **light would have to cross the entire universe inside the Earth first.** [bolding mine] This is giving me flashbacks of my favorite balls-out-crazy conspiracy thread. It was the one where the OP raved on about the universe inverting itself. That one was so crazy I didn’t even know what the hell he/she was going on about. This craziness is nothing by comparison. The ranting crazy we get these days is just disappointing, it’s like they’re not even trying. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/47 "2014-04-10T23:55:23Z")
Well, they do get burned repeatedly (especially the Sol/Ra worshipers.) It must be difficult maintaining an edge. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/48 "2014-04-11T02:07:13Z")
“unawarely” ? why do you think that? - I, for one, welcome the sunrise every morning and pay homage to the sun setting every day. Its two things I can count on without fail - I even belong to a group of people that have a day of the week named after it - and thats even a day most of us get to take off work and relax in some fashion. (even if “the man” won’t let me buy liquor on that day, I can stock up on saturn’s day and enjoy it then as well). ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/49 "2014-04-11T07:41:10Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Actually that can be explained. If spacetime was distorted the right way it would look like a heliocentric universe even while we lived inside an inverted Earth containing the universe. Our instruments would see no difference because they and whatever they are using would be just as distorted. You couldn’t see Europe from Australia because the light would have to cross the entire universe inside the Earth first. I think in that case, there would be no way to tell that it was thusly distorted and therefore, from our point of view, it wouldn’t be. Also, the proof that the universe works that way wouldn’t be determined by a lunatic with a camcorder, standing in a pond. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/50 "2014-04-11T08:20:22Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > As the ancient and sacred cheerleaders of Akhenaten said: > > There is only One God! > He is the Sun God! > Ra! Ra! Ra! > [@Marley23](#): > > There is only one god > And he is the sun god > Ra! Ra! Ra! The message is fine, but [these guys](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETHvSTT6PA8) know how to bring da funk. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/51 "2014-04-11T12:22:42Z")
Who knows how many gods we are unawarely worshipping? I just ate a bowl of soup - maybe I was worshipping the soup god (or perhaps offending him). ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/52 "2014-04-11T13:24:41Z")
The Sun? A mere pittance of a gravitational sink. I worship [The Great Attractor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor). ---
**Author:** ![JWT\_Kottekoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@JWT\_Kottekoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JWT_Kottekoe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/53 "2014-04-11T14:12:14Z")
It is easy to prove that the Earth is concave. Just look at the bottom of your shoe. After prolonged use, the sole of a shoe is always convex. QED ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/54 "2014-04-11T15:01:06Z")
> [@JWT\_Kottekoe](#): > > Just look at the bottom of your shoe. After prolonged use, the sole of a shoe is always convex. QED Funny, mine appears to be converse, instead. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/55 "2014-04-11T15:23:01Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > As the ancient and sacred cheerleaders of Akhenaten said: > > There is only One God! > He is the Sun God! > Ra! Ra! Ra! And they chanted this till they were Horus. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/56 "2014-04-11T15:57:03Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Just to let you know, **karol** , the ice is getting thin here. Last month [you were warned](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17158086&postcount=20) about starting content-free threads, and the only reason this one didn’t meet the same fate is because you gave a _slight_ amount of content in your OP this time. > > But be aware – this thread is quickly heading to a lockdown if it’s just going to degenerate into people calling you out for not giving sufficient response. > > * * * > > **Hal Briston** - MPSIMS Moderator OP, you are not giving sufficient response! 😉 In the meantime… > [@George Carlin](#): > > “I’ve begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It’s there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, and a lovely day. There’s no mystery, no one asks for money, I don’t have to dress up, and there’s no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to “God” are all answered at about the same 50% rate.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/57 "2014-04-11T16:11:23Z")
For medical reasons I am hesitant to venture too deeply into the OP’s cites, so could someone tell me how the moon (and lunar eclipses) are explained in this mad scheme? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/58 "2014-04-11T16:14:01Z")
Giant flying turtles, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/59 "2014-04-11T16:15:19Z")
[“It’s not the sun up in the sky. It’s the Son of God.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_Circuses_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)) ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788/60 "2014-04-11T16:33:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > For medical reasons I am hesitant to venture too deeply into the OP’s cites, so could someone tell me how the moon (and lunar eclipses) are explained in this mad scheme? Dilation - it’s the super cool fix-all we’ve all been waiting for. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-unawarely-worshipping-the-sun/685788.md?page=4)