# You are wrong, fatherjohn.......

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [April 1, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405 "2001-04-01T20:26:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author: ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/1 "2001-04-01T20:26:54Z")

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(With apologies to Lewis Carroll)

“You are wrong, **fatherjohn** ,” the posters all said,  
“And it seems that you [hate SUVs.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60487)  
And now you’ve [gone after the solar-type stuff.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=65556)  
Can you say why you post this crap, please?”

“In my youth,” **fatherjohn** then replied to the board,  
“I feared it might injure the brain,  
But, now that I’m perfectly sure I have none,  
Why, I do it again and again!”

“You are wrong, **fatherjohn** ,” the teeming crowd said,  
“And all logic has been quite ignored.  
Tell us, please, why do you skip by the facts  
That refute what you you’ve said on the board?”

“I haven’t ignored it,” the **fatherjohn** said,  
“I saw as it WHOOOOOOOSHED by my head.  
The **fatherjohn** muttered [‘ground clearance’](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1228080#post1228080) again ----  
It worked SO well in the old thread.”

“You are wrong, **fatherjohn** ,” as I mentioned before,  
“I don’t see why you think as you do.  
Perhaps you could show us a cite to explain  
Or supporting facts - just one or two?”

“But I have,” **fatherjohn** then replied to the board,  
"I have given you facts quite enough.  
I have already named for you [two types of fruit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1230494#post1230494)  
Not to mention some [black kitchen stuff!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1228754#post1228754)

“You are wrong, **fatherjohn** ,” the multitudes said,  
“And your statements don’t match what you cite.  
So why do you try to insist that they do?  
Could you possibly think that you’re right?”

“I have answered three questions, and that is enough,”  
Said the **FJ** , "It’s starting to bore ----  
Do you think I have time to reply to this stuff?  
Now be off, while I post somewhere [‘SCORE!!’"](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1229869#post1229869)

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### Author: ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2001, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/2 "2001-04-01T20:31:44Z")

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[(The original)](http://home.earthlink.net/~jessliotta/william.htm)

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2001, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/3 "2001-04-01T20:42:12Z")

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Very good, but wouldn’t Jabberwocky have been more appropriate?

“Twas brillig in the SUV…”

Something like that.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/4 "2001-04-01T22:24:27Z")

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The flames were burning in the Pit  
Burning with all their might  
The heat of their invective was  
Lost in endless night  
The ignorance of **fatherjohn**  
Did suck up all their light.

Pontificating moodily  
Because he thought it fun  
The **fatherjohn** ignored the rest  
Thinking he had won.  
“It’s very rude of them,” he said,"  
To try to spoil my fun."

The Pit, it is a hostile place  
And words of scorn to fly  
Yet clueless **fatherjohn** can do  
Naught but sit and cry  
He protested he was right  
And that his words were wry.

The Pitizens did join the fray  
And battled hand-to-hand  
Some of them wondered privately,  
“Would **fatherjohn** be banned?”  
“If only he would go away,”  
They said, “It would be grand!”

“If **fatherjohn** had seven threads  
And in each was a jerk  
Do you suppose,” the posters said,  
“That we could wipe his smirk?”  
"I doubt it, " said the Pitizens,  
“He’s too large a piece of work.”

“O **fatherjohn** , come talk with us!”  
The posters did beseech.  
“A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,  
Please back up your speech!  
Perhaps we can clear these things up.  
Give us a cite to reach!”

**fatherjohn** just glared at them  
And uttered his refrain:  
“Go back and read my OP again.”  
And rolled his eyes again.  
Meaning to say he did not choose  
To deal with their disdain.

Then other posters hurried up  
To ask what did he mean?  
They thought The Putz was serious.  
What knowledge could they glean?  
And this was odd, 'cause **fatherjohn’s**  
Method has been seen.

The other posters asked again,  
To please answer their question  
“Pot and Kettle!” came the reply,  
“I scoff at your suggestion!  
I win this round, you kitchenware!  
You give me indigestion!”

The Pitizens explained to him  
That his logic was quite poor.  
They countered all his arguments,  
Provided cites and more.  
And all the while the **fatherjohn**  
Just acted like a boor.

“The time has come,” the posters said,  
“To talk of many things.  
Of [stickers on offensive cars](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=63046)  
Of [idiotic ‘zings’](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1229869#post1229869)  
Of SUVs and solar cells.  
What knowledge does he bring?”

“Wait a bit,” **fatherjohn** cried,  
“It’s clear for all to see!  
All you have to do is this:  
Understand my OP!  
For none of you can comprehend  
What I explain to thee.”

“We understand you are an ass,  
And what we chiefly need  
Is for you to make your point  
And do it with some speed!  
Your arguments are circular.  
Your case, sir, please do plead!”

**fatherjohn** replied to that,  
Turning a little blue,  
“You are a pot, I say again.  
I will not give to you  
A logical response because  
**I** win, and not you!”

“How claim you that, dear **fatherjohn**?  
Have you not heard a word?  
You say that your logic is sound,  
But your brain is from a bird!  
The poseur page you’ll have us read  
Is worth less than a turd!”

“It seems a shame,” **fatherjohn** said,  
“To play them such a trick,  
I pull the strings and buttons push,  
And they reply so quick!  
Apples and oranges  
I’ll compare until they’re sick!”

“We weep for you,” the posters said,  
“We deeply sympathize.  
It must be hard to live your life  
With a brain so small a size.  
You make an asshole of yourself  
Before the World’s eyes!”

“You are all pots, calling me black!”  
**fatherjohn** again replied.  
“All of you are sore to lose!”  
Well, at least the posters tried.  
**fatherjohn** remains a putz  
The posters can’t abide.

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### Author: ![ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2001, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/5 "2001-04-02T01:13:05Z")

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Hey, how did SUV boy get banned? I’m sort of curious about that. Not that it matters.

-L

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### Author: ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2001, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/6 "2001-04-02T01:29:28Z")

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Apparently **fatherjohn** was a sock puppet for a (twice) banned poster. Coldfire mentions it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1231479#post1231479) and Lynn Bodoni tosses him out a few posts later.

**Johnny L.A.** : Loved your poem! Especially “I win this round, you kitchenware!”

Almost a shame to lose such a inspiration…

…Naaah.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2001, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-are-wrong-fatherjohn/60405/7 "2001-04-02T01:45:30Z")

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> **Johnny L.A.** : Loved your poem!

I never would have done it without you, **YWalker**! (Oh, and Mr. Carroll, of course!) I just wish I had caught the typos before I posted it.
