# "You be rippin' and dippin'" -- Pizza Hut commercial **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 2, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055 "2003-09-02T02:26:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/41 "2003-09-09T12:10:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\*I suppose in these people’s minds, it would be o.k. to have a KFC ad with black people saying, “Ah sure does loves dis fried chicken!”:rolleyes: \*\* What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/42 "2003-09-09T13:01:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\*I suppose in these people’s minds, it would be o.k. to have a KFC ad with black people saying, “Ah sure does loves dis fried chicken!”:rolleyes: \*\* I’ve never heard anyone talk like that. I’ve never seen a KFC commercial with people talking like that. Have you? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/43 "2003-09-09T13:51:54Z")
You sho am know what he be talkin bout Dat chicken be better than me mammy’s. Mammy done go whoop my ass good if she know I be here. Come the fuck on. You know good and well what he’s talking about. Are we at the point where we can talk like little black sambo in a commercial, and a debate will ensue as to whether or not it is racist? Of course it is. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzy\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dizzy\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzy_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/44 "2003-09-09T13:57:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cardinal \* > \*\*You don’t sell over-caffeinated soda to kids by putting Victor Borge in the ads. \*\* “Diet Coke. . . just five the taste!” ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/45 "2003-09-09T14:02:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > \*\*You sho am know what he be talkin bout > > Dat chicken be better than me mammy’s. Mammy done go whoop my ass good if she know I be here. > > Come the fuck on. You know good and well what he’s talking about. Are we at the point where we can talk like little black sambo in a commercial, and a debate will ensue as to whether or not it is racist? Of course it is. \*\* I’ll repeat in case you missed it. I’ve never heard anyone talk like a sambo in real life. I go to the store, no sambo, I hang out with friends, no sambo, I go to eat out, no sambo, get it? I’ve yet to see a KFC commercial where anyone talks like a sambo. I do, however have plenty of friends that say all that “shizzle my nizzle” crap. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/46 "2003-09-09T14:47:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > \*\*You sho am know what he be talkin bout > > Dat chicken be better than me mammy’s. Mammy done go whoop my ass good if she know I be here. > > Come the fuck on. You know good and well what he’s talking about. Are we at the point where we can talk like little black sambo in a commercial, and a debate will ensue as to whether or not it is racist? Of course it is. \*\* No, actually, I stil have no idea why KFC was dragged into this. Or why I should care about someone doing a stereotypical accent for a commerical. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzy\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dizzy\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzy_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/47 "2003-09-09T16:04:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by asterion \* > \*\*No, actually, I stil have no idea why KFC was dragged into this. Or why I should care about someone doing a stereotypical accent for a commerical. \*\* Well, shet mah mouf! ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/48 "2003-09-09T18:21:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > \*\*You sho am know what he be talkin bout > > Dat chicken be better than me mammy’s. Mammy done go whoop my ass good if she know I be here. > > Come the fuck on. You know good and well what he’s talking about. Are we at the point where we can talk like little black sambo in a commercial, and a debate will ensue as to whether or not it is racist? Of course it is. \*\* Thank you. I was beginning to think I had accidentally connected to the Internet on _Mars_.:rolleyes: and World Eater: > [@](#): > > I’ve never seen a KFC commercial with people talking like that. > > Have you? Did I _say_ I had seen a commercial like that?😕 If you guys want a _real_ example, anyone remember another pizza ad a few years back featuring the “Meat Lover’s” pizza (I forget who it was for) where they tried to slam Dominos? In the ad, someone calls Dominos to order the Meat Lover’s pizza, and gets this response: “Dis Dominos - we don’t got no meat, no lovahs, no none o’ dat.” Now, I have certainly heard people who actually talk that way in real life. Does that mean it wasn’t racist? Fuck no. Of course it was fucking racist. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/49 "2003-09-09T18:47:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\*World Eater: > > Did I _say_ I had seen a commercial like that?😕\*\* No and you won’t, because KFC marketing isn’t stupid. \*\* > [@](#): > > If you guys want a _real_ example, anyone remember another pizza ad a few years back featuring the “Meat Lover’s” pizza (I forget who it was for) where they tried to slam Dominos? In the ad, someone calls Dominos to order the Meat Lover’s pizza, and gets this response: “Dis Dominos - we don’t got no meat, no lovahs, no none o’ dat.” Now, I have certainly heard people who actually talk that way in real life. Does that mean it wasn’t racist? Fuck no. Of course it was fucking racist. \*\* What made it racist? ---
**Author:** ![aaslatten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@aaslatten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aaslatten)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/50 "2003-09-09T19:20:12Z")
Pizza Hut offered meat lover’s pizza. Pepsico owns both Pizza Hut and KFC. KFC shortened its name from Kentucky Fried Chicken a few years ago to appeal to a more urban audience. This is all making sense now. Also, I beg to differ that KFC marketing isn’t stupid. What they’ve done with that poor old dead man’s image is a disgrace. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/51 "2003-09-09T19:30:31Z")
Their commercials being stupid is one thing, their marketing department be stupid is something entirely different. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/52 "2003-09-09T20:36:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > No and you won’t, because KFC marketing isn’t stupid. Did I _say_ that KFC marketing was stupid? Could you possibly miss the point in _more_ ways? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/53 "2003-09-10T11:16:29Z")
Why has this gone wildly off-track? This thread has nothing to do with kfc. It has everything to do with Pizza Hut’s “you be rippin and dippin” commercial. Blowhero made a common-sense reply comparing people who accept this commercial with people who would HYPHOTHETICALLY accept a KFC commercial where a stereotypical black family in the projects might say “I sho am loves dis fried chicken”. No, KFC has not made a racist commercial such as this. The debate is whether or not Pizza Hut has. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/54 "2003-09-10T12:29:36Z")
I though it was a pretty stupid hypothetical, as I imagine KFC would _never_ make a commercial like that. Now was the Pizza Hut commercial racist? I haven’t seen it, but to me it sounds simply like a dumb ad, and nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/55 "2003-09-10T17:51:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > \*\*Why has this gone wildly off-track? This thread has nothing to do with kfc. It has everything to do with Pizza Hut’s “you be rippin and dippin” commercial. > > Blowhero made a common-sense reply comparing people who accept this commercial with people who would HYPHOTHETICALLY accept a KFC commercial where a stereotypical black family in the projects might say “I sho am loves dis fried chicken”. No, KFC has not made a racist commercial such as this. The debate is whether or not Pizza Hut has. \*\* Thank you again for being the only sane person in this thread. It’s surprising how many people here at SDMB seem not to understand hypotheticals or analogies. Most of the time, I suspect they really do understand but are just being deliberately obtuse because they think that’s a way of being contentious. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/56 "2003-09-10T22:16:18Z")
How in the hell is it racist to show a commercial with black people talking the way some black people talk? Even if you think they’re stupid, does that make it automatically racist? Does showing stupid black people on TV make it racist? How about stupid white people? If so, then I would say that every one of those stupid 1800-COLLECT ads are racist against white people (hi Carrot Top). For God’s sake people, take it easy with the PC whipping stick. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/57 "2003-09-11T13:23:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*I though it was a pretty stupid hypothetical, as I imagine KFC would _never_ make a commercial like that. > > Now was the Pizza Hut commercial racist? > > I haven’t seen it, but to me it sounds simply like a dumb ad, and nothing more. \*\* How is it a stupid hypothetical? “You be rippin and dippin” shows, celebrates, and exploits the worst of black society’s language skills. Forgive me, I can’t help but come back to this thread. It AMAZES me that people don’t see the similarities between this, and the hypothetical “it sho am good” kfc ad. Yet AGAIN, no, kfc never made such a commercial, kfc is smart enough not to… enough about kfc. ---
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/58 "2003-09-11T16:52:36Z")
> [@](#): > > “You be rippin and dippin” shows, celebrates, and exploits the worst of black society’s language skills. You haven’t seen many rap videos, or taught in neighborhoods like Compton, CA, or Lynwood, CA, have you? I can tell you from personal experience that this is FAR from the “worst”. AND I take exception to the idea that an accent is “bad”. For this to be the worst, then it must be bad, and wrong. Note that the only thing grammatically wrong in that phrase is the lack of “will” as the second word. Other than that, it’s all accent. Belieeeeeve me, if I could show you some of the grammatical errors I find from white cow-orkers, I could beat that with a large stick. I found about a dozen errors in the official glossy promotional materials in our office when I started this job. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/59 "2003-09-11T17:22:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > \*\*How is it a stupid hypothetical? “You be rippin and dippin” shows, celebrates, and exploits the worst of black society’s language skills. Forgive me, I can’t help but come back to this thread. It AMAZES me that people don’t see the similarities between this, and the hypothetical “it sho am good” kfc ad. Yet AGAIN, no, kfc never made such a commercial, kfc is smart enough not to… enough about kfc. \*\* What windwalker said. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055/60 "2003-09-11T18:02:48Z")
With great reluctance I enter this thread: Yes some African American people talk the way that they do in the Pizza Hut commercial. But I think some of you must be a lot younger than I because back in the 70’s I used to caddy at a country club and many of the caddies were African-American and almost all of them spoke in the accent that zuma/blowero described in his hypothetical KFC commercial. I don’t hear that talk today but I sure did back then. The point being that KFCs would have been burnt to the ground if such a commercial were made back then. It would be considered utter racist shit. So saying that if would have been a stereotype back then (hence unacceptable), then using today’s stereotype is just as bad (and just as unacceptable). zuma/blowero, tell me if I have missed your point(s) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-be-rippin-and-dippin-pizza-hut-commercial/199055.md?page=4)