# You Beat Another Person?  How Yoooooooooooooooou Doin?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 1, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049 "2004-07-01T14:26:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/181 "2004-07-02T02:39:25Z")

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You know, all this thread needs to be the perfect storm of train wrecks is to turn into a “fat” thread (bonus points if someone can work in an SUV). Keep up the good work people.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/182 "2004-07-02T02:41:40Z")

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Or is that not what some of you folks are alluding to?

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/183 "2004-07-02T02:54:08Z")

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This thread has convinced me that it’s perfectly OK to assault another person as long as that person is way, way bigger than you.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/184 "2004-07-02T02:56:05Z")

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**catsix** -don’t faint-I’m in COMPLETE agreement with you also! ([sub]this is reading like some Ms sob fest![/sub])  
Even if it was the case of a weak little girl hitting at a big strong man, if that’s the way she deals with anger, it’s dangerous. Yeah, she may not have hurt HIM. But the next time someone pisses her off, and she beats on them? They may not be able to withstand the blows.

Plus, some men ARE weaker than some women, or in different ways. Take my neighbor. Tall, skinny guy. His ex wife is this HUGE woman, who jousts at Ren fairs (or at least she used to). She was also a psycho hose beast. If she had “beat them hell out of him”, I would imagine she could have very easily put him in the hospital.

Or you have guys who have it so ingrained that men do NOT hit women, they don’t fight back-and even small skinny girls may actually be tough and strong. Size matters not, as Master Yoda would say.  
I haven’t seen anything to suggest her boyfriend is emotionally abusive. At the very least, he may be a little bit insensitive. But he wanted to go out with the guys and simply said, “Hey, why can’t you just pick up your OWN laundry?” I don’t see that as justifying “beating the hell out of him.” It sounds like you both may have had your own issues.

**Torie** , I’m gonna say it, and you’re not going to like hearing this: you’re NOT okay. At least right now. You’re NOT fine. You need help. That does not mean you are a BAD person. It means you need help. That’s all.

Right now, you don’t need flirting. You need to get your life together. I do sympathize, but I’m not going to coddle you and offer you hugs. If a slap in the face is what it takes to help someone, that’s what I’ll do.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/185 "2004-07-02T02:57:29Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> This thread has convinced me that it’s perfectly OK to assault another person as long as that person is way, way bigger than you.

I’m curious to see the quote where someone stated that. I mean, really.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/186 "2004-07-02T03:07:56Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> …If a slap in the face is what it takes to help someone, that’s what I’ll do.

So, would that slap be ok for a man or a woman? Or are we still saying that hitting is bad? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/187 "2004-07-02T03:11:30Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> … **Torie** , I’m gonna say it, and you’re not going to like hearing this: you’re NOT okay. At least right now. You’re NOT fine. You need help. That does not mean you are a BAD person. It means you need help. That’s all.
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> Right now, you don’t need flirting. You need to get your life together. I do sympathize, but I’m not going to coddle you and offer you hugs. If a slap in the face is what it takes to help someone, that’s what I’ll do.

More to the point, she is already getting help and (I would guess) doesn’t need this sort of sanctimonious bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/188 "2004-07-02T03:12:24Z")

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I know you’re being sarcastic, but just in case someone wants to nitpick, I mean a metaphorical slap.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/189 "2004-07-02T03:15:29Z")

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Good grief, what is this, selective amnesia?

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Even if it was the case of a weak little girl hitting at a big strong man, if that’s the way she deals with anger, it’s dangerous.

Gee golly, you’re right! Which is why **torie** is seeking counseling. Because she was alarmed by her behavior and doesn’t want to repeat the behavior. She seems quite aware of the fact that hitting ain’t cool.

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> **Torie** , I’m gonna say it, and you’re not going to like hearing this: you’re NOT okay. At least right now. You’re NOT fine. You need help. That does not mean you are a BAD person. It means you need help. That’s all.

Yeah, **torie** , you need help! Hey, I have this really brilliant and insightful suggestion: I think that you should get into counseling to deal with your anger issues. Oh wait—what’s that? You are already doing that, aren’t you? And, like, you made a point of telling us that way back at the start, didn’t you?

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/190 "2004-07-02T03:22:10Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> …Yeah, **torie** , you need help! Hey, I have this really brilliant and insightful suggestion: I think that you should get into counseling to deal with your anger issues. Oh wait—what’s that? You are already doing that, aren’t you? And, like, you made a point of telling us that way back at the start, didn’t you?
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> :rolleyes:

Blood in the water. Nothing else is getting through except that the hyenas have prey to bring down.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/191 "2004-07-02T03:23:14Z")

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Most of what I saw as a bunch of “Oh, you poor thing-you’re FINE!”

Telling someone to get help in the midst of huggles and smilies, in a situation like this?

I know not EVERYONE is doing it. But I think it bears repeating as it doesn’t seem to be sinking in.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/192 "2004-07-02T03:47:13Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> I just ran over some squirrels with my truck…tell me I’m lovable!

_snork_  
I love you even if you haven’t run over any vermin

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/193 "2004-07-02T03:49:44Z")

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> [@Aries28](#):
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> Magically delicious. 😉

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red hearts, green clover, purple and blue ex-boyfriend.

\*it took me a few minutes, but I got it.

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**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/194 "2004-07-02T04:19:21Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> You know, all this thread needs to be the perfect storm of train wrecks is to turn into a “fat” thread (bonus points if someone can work in an SUV). Keep up the good work people.

Good Christ, **Binarydrone**. You’re the one bringing the ‘fat’ word into this. Listen, when **nyctea** was thinking that **torie** was this wee, tiny girl beating against a brick wall of an ex-boyfriend, perhaps she had a point. But, the pictures that **Green Bean** was referencing pretty much says that **torie** isn’t a tiny girl. We’re not saying she’s fat–hell, I’d say we were of the similar build (I’m 5’5", dress size 16, and I wouldn’t say I’m fat, but I’m definitely a big girl), but that she’s not a petite girl, and could possibly be strong enough to hurt someone.

Listen, **torie** , if you’re still following this, just let me say that I’m really glad you’re going to counselling. It sounds like you have a long, hard path in getting things straight in your life, and that you do have quite a bit of learning and growing up to do. I hope you walk away with a few lessons from this experience.

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/195 "2004-07-02T04:57:01Z")

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Guy kicks girl out, breaks up relationship.

Girl gets rid of some frustration by pounding guy’s arms and chest while he’s thinking: “Ok, if it makes you feel better…yawn”.

Girl asks friends on message board for a cyber hug.

It results in _ **THIS???** _

Snort! **torie** may or may not need to see a shrink for other reasons, but a one time minor outburst doesn’t call for counseling.

And the above situation sure doesn’t call for all the offederati drama queen shit we’ve been exposed to in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/196 "2004-07-02T05:02:56Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> You know, all this thread needs to be the perfect storm of train wrecks is to turn into a “fat” thread (bonus points if someone can work in an SUV). Keep up the good work people.

So you think **torie** is fat? 'Cause nobody else here suggested that she was fat. So, I’m not sure where “the f word” came from if not from your own head.

What I saw when I saw her photos was a girl who carried enough mass so that she could easily get some momentum behind a punch. I had assumed that she was a teeny tiny girl based on how people are squawking about how she couldn’t possibly have really hurt the guy. But I can’t imagine how anyone could think that after seeing her photo.

Oh, and I see **John Carter** ’s logorrhea on preview: Take a look at Torie’s picture and tell me if you think you’d be yawning while she was trying to beat you up?

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/197 "2004-07-02T05:04:37Z")

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Oh wait, so he posted on here with a transcript of his thoughts while being assaulted by his ex girlfriend? Cool, that puts my mind at ease.  
PS: Damn **Binarydrome** , way to open up a can of worms when everyone was sitting around talking about spaghetti.

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/198 "2004-07-02T05:07:01Z")

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Damn **stately plump buck mulligan** , way to misspell usernames for no apparent reason

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/199 "2004-07-02T05:10:51Z")

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> [@Green Bean](#):
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> Oh, and I see **John Carter** ’s logorrhea on preview: Take a look at Torie’s picture and tell me if you think you’d be yawning while she was trying to beat you up?

What the hell do you know? What the hell do I know? Nothing. So torie ain’t a fragile, petite delicate flower. Well, neither am I, and I know plenty of fellows who I would not make a _dent_ upon if I started to flail on their chest and arms.

So, either torie is a liar when she says she didn’t even bruise him, or she isn’t. Do you know? Are you calling her a liar? Can you _prove_ that she is a liar, based on her picture alone? If not, what exactly is the point of all of this?

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/200 "2004-07-02T05:21:02Z")

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No bruises != no pain

Some people just don’t bruise easily. Hell, I **do** bruise easily yet I’ve withstood punches to the chest that didn’t bruise. And I know it isn’t especially my business anyways (okay, so it’s not my business at all) but how did she know she didn’t leave bruises, anyways? They take a while to form. Did she call him up to say “Happy Anniversary did I leave any bruises?” Geez, for all we know maybe she did. I’m just saying, I’ve been punched with great force and had it not leave a bruise, and I’ve hit other girls with great force (in self defense mind you, but still with force) and not left a scratch.  
What people are saying is not that she’s fat and not that she’s a liar. They’re saying “damn, she isn’t some 4’11 thing with twiggy arms and fists the size of ping pong balls, it looks like she could actually harm someone if she were pissed at them and striking blows to their arms and chest.”

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