# You Beat Another Person? How Yoooooooooooooooou Doin? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049 "2004-07-01T14:26:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/121 "2004-07-01T21:05:55Z")
> [@Stephi](#): > > …Instead she just wanted cheap male attention. > > Third, I have no reason to believe that is was “just a joke.” She posted multiple times to that thread, and never once did she say, “ok, stop it with the flirting guys, I was just joking.” > > Why didn’t she just come here and say, “Yeah, I asked for men to flirt with me, perhaps it wasn’t the most appropriate thing, sorry about that.” rather than deny it? I think that’s what bothers me the most now, I wish she’d just own up to it, rather than backpedaling. That HORRIBLE LYING VIOLENT WHORE! She is worthy of a 3-page pit thread, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/122 "2004-07-01T21:09:10Z")
So now He Hurt My Feelings = Emotional Abuse? Holy hell, I’ve got a LOT of police reports to file. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/123 "2004-07-01T21:12:18Z")
Aries, would you please go kick the shit outa Sauron? 😃 nyctea scandiaca - the more you post, the more I just see “blah blah blah, I am a fucking idiot, blah blah blah”. My God, you’re dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_D\_oh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/839c29/32.png) [@Jane\_D\_oh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_D_oh)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/124 "2004-07-01T21:12:48Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > I just ran over some squirrels with my truck…tell me I’m lovable! I mean it when I say You ARE lovable. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/125 "2004-07-01T21:13:14Z")
> [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > Then some other stuff about dumpster diving…I’ll go look that up for you. Well I looked it up and I was wrong again! OH NO! I am in big trouble now, the torie-bashers are now going to come after me, because I made a mistake! AAAHHH! Run for your life… :eek: Oh wait, I found this, (please don’t hurt me!) \[I know he loves me, he just isn’t showing it well today.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=248233) Where she says her “boyfriend has managed to make an entire day out of hurting my feelings.” ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/126 "2004-07-01T21:16:50Z")
So, did the anonymous live journal get closed or something? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/127 "2004-07-01T21:17:39Z")
If only we’d flirted with her back then this all could have been avoided! ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/128 "2004-07-01T21:18:40Z")
> [@Diane](#): > > nyctea scandiaca - the more you post, the more I just see “blah blah blah, I am a fucking idiot, blah blah blah”. My God, you’re dumb. What a perfect example of this, except now you have turned on the defender (typical bully behavior): > [@](#): > > You guys are no better than the snobby chicks in high school who think they’re better than everyone, piling up on someone less fortunate and kicking them when they’re down. You guys have blown this whole thing out of proportion and are just plain being MEAN to torie. God, Diane, you’re a bitch. You’re just mad because I called you on the mean vicious person you are. And all you can come up with is that I’m “dumb?” Waaaahhh I’m so HURT!!! ---
**Author:** ![nocturnal\_tick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3d9bf3/32.png) [@nocturnal\_tick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nocturnal_tick)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/129 "2004-07-01T21:18:48Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > torie did nothing to stop the flirting and praise for beating up her boyfriend (which we only know was mild from HER side of the story), instead encouraged it further, basking in the love. Only one person that I saw (before this was opened) even suggested that perhaps hitting was bad. Then, when she got called on it, came in and retracted that she ever wanted to be flirted with. Oh, so now she’s a fucking untrustworthy bitch now, is she? I take the information that has been given to me. If she says that her attack did no apparent harm, and common sense tells me that she did no harm to him then why should I immediately refuse to believe it and blame **torie** for even trying to tell us such “hateful lies”? Did you read her fucking OP??? **?** > [@TORIE](#): > > Yesterday morning, I went over there and beat the hell out of him. I was so angry at him for what he has done to my self esteem. I hit him repeatedly in the chest and arms. I’m lucky he didn’t call the cops. Needless to say, I went straight to my local mental health center and am now in some counseling. Pople with a history of depressive illness in thier family can sometimes have thier own depressive illness triggered by life changing events like these. She said my violent episode may be indicitive of a larger problem. She said the violence was wrong. She has admitted that the violence was wrong. We all seem to get that the violence was wrong. Do you now get that she knew the violence was wrong??? She didn’t encourage people to praise her for her actions. She wanted support and we gave it, unquestioned. > [@A Monkey with a Gun](#): > > See, this is what I don’t get. Where the Hell are people getting that he was an abuser? Why do they insist that the violence torie committed was exagerated, as it probably was, and then insist on exagerating the boyfriends culpability beyond any semblance to reality. Show me one iota of evidence that he was emotionally abusive that can’t be explained by torie exagerating an argument they had. > [@torie](#): > > Marc threw me out of the apartment. > \ > Everyday he hurt my feelings. He let me know in his own little way that I was never good enough. My self esteem has some recovering to do. That not good enough for you. You push and push and push and sometime they’ll push back. > [@Stephi](#): > > Third, I have no reason to believe that is was “just a joke.” She posted multiple times to that thread, and never once did she say, “ok, stop it with the flirting guys, I was just joking.” **torie** ’s first post: "I have the large task of convincing myself that I am not inherently unlovable. Any flirting anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. 😃 " **note the smilie!!!** **torie** ’s second post: “Thank you! I looove you guys!!!” **torie** ’s third post: “I am more capable and more resilient than I ever gave myself credit for. I’m proud of myself today. And that means more to me than Marc ever did.” _RANT RANT RANT RANT_ And where is this constant flirting of hers? Hmmmmm? The OP was a joke even if some of you are slow on the uptake. The rest although sympathetic to herself is nowhere near flirting. She didn’t saying stop flirting because it was never meant to be taken seriously, jeez, she is not responsible for what we post. If you need someone to tell you what to post then you shouldn’t be doing that job yourself right now!! ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/130 "2004-07-01T21:23:31Z")
Jesus. This is like watching a feeding frenzy. A little sniff of blood and the thin veneer of civilization falls. I wonder if you cackling hens realize how ugly you are being right now. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/131 "2004-07-01T21:24:47Z")
nocturnal: settle down, I’m sure she knows you have a crush on her. firstly, we’ve all had our feelings hurt before. We’ve all had our self esteem crushed that does NOT equal emotional abuse. I’m sorry. I just reread the thread and saw no indication of regret past the OP. It was a praise party after that. And I love that support, to you, means hitting on a girl. 2004, welcome to it. “No baby, come on, you’re hot, lets do it…I SUPPORT YOU, can I put it in your butt?” And no, I"m not going to take her word only that her beating inflicted no harm. Common sense, as you called it, indicates that “Beating the hell out of him” means causing harm. You want to believe that it didn’t because you want to believe she’s a wilting flower. But again, if a guy said “So I beat the hell out of her, but don’t worry it didn’t hurt her” the board would be on FIRE from the roasting he’d get. You are giving her a pass because she’s a girl. Admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Stephi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/132 "2004-07-01T21:26:04Z")
> [@nocturnal\_tick](#): > > Oh, so now she’s a fucking untrustworthy bitch now, is she? I take the information that has been given to me. If she says that her attack did no apparent harm, and common sense tells me that she did no harm to him then why should I immediately refuse to believe it and blame **torie** for even trying to tell us such “hateful lies”? Did you read her fucking OP??? > > **?** > > She said the violence was wrong. She has admitted that the violence was wrong. We all seem to get that the violence was wrong. Do you now get that she knew the violence was wrong??? She didn’t encourage people to praise her for her actions. She wanted support and we gave it, unquestioned. > > That not good enough for you. You push and push and push and sometime they’ll push back. > > **torie** ’s first post: "I have the large task of convincing myself that I am not inherently unlovable. Any flirting anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. 😃 " **note the smilie!!!** > > **torie** ’s second post: “Thank you! I looove you guys!!!” > > **torie** ’s third post: “I am more capable and more resilient than I ever gave myself credit for. I’m proud of myself today. And that means more to me than Marc ever did.” > > _RANT RANT RANT RANT_ > > And where is this constant flirting of hers? Hmmmmm? The OP was a joke even if some of you are slow on the uptake. The rest although sympathetic to herself is nowhere near flirting. She didn’t saying stop flirting because it was never meant to be taken seriously, jeez, she is not responsible for what we post. If you need someone to tell you what to post then you shouldn’t be doing that job yourself right now!! Ok, this is idiotic. A smilie is just a smilie. It does **not** always mean “I’m just kidding.” I still maintain that she was completely serious. She is simplying backpedaling rather than admitting she was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/133 "2004-07-01T21:26:25Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Jesus. This is like watching a feeding frenzy. A little sniff of blood and the thin veneer of civilization falls. I wonder if you cackling hens realize how ugly you are being right now. Look out Binarydrone, your monacle just fell into your martini. I wonder if torie realized how ugly she was when she beat the hell out of another human. ---
**Author:** ![Stephi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/134 "2004-07-01T21:28:24Z")
Doh! I meant to snip that quote a bit more, rather than post that big long thing, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/135 "2004-07-01T21:36:05Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > Look out Binarydrone, your monacle just fell into your martini. > > I wonder if torie realized how ugly she was when she beat the hell out of another human. Given that she regretted it right away, and is seeking professional help to deal with the issue I would say that the answer to that question is an unqualified yes. This whole thread really reeks of kicking someone when they are down. It reminds me of a pack of feral dogs that sense weakness in one of the pack and bring it down and rip it to shreds. Revolting and ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/136 "2004-07-01T21:37:22Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > nocturnal: > > settle down, I’m sure she knows you have a crush on her. > > I just reread the thread and saw no indication of regret past the OP. It was a praise party after that. And I love that support, to you, means hitting on a girl. 2004, welcome to it. > > “No baby, come on, you’re hot, lets do it…I SUPPORT YOU, can I put it in your butt?” I finally see the light. This whole thing isn’t about what a horrible violent whore she is, it’s about how jealous all the housewives are that a bunch of guys are drooling over the the pretty young girl. _Where’s MY attention!!! \ I know, let’s make a pit thread and get some attenion that way!!_ I better watch out, here comes my ass kicking courtesy of Saint jarbaby! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/137 "2004-07-01T21:37:41Z")
But if it was me or Diane being torn down, you’d be right there at the forefront, no doubt :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/138 "2004-07-01T21:39:21Z")
torie has also posted that her boyfriend took her in when her mother threw her out. Moving in together is a serious committment that should not be taken lightly, and it is unfortunate that in this case the couple did not have the time to seriously consider this step because of torie’s urgent situation. IIRC, torie and Marc were together less than a year. The rush to live together may have hastened the end of the relationship. I commend torie for recognizing that her behavior is wrong and seeking help. I’m a little turned off by the fact that she attempted to justify her physical outburst and turn the blame on him. ("I have a habit of dating these men. I am going to stay in counseling to figure out why. I don’t want to go through this anymore. "). But I assume that issue will be dealt with during the course of her counseling. However, I can’t fault the boyfriend for ending it and throwing her out. Perhaps he sensed that she was on the verge of losing control. Maybe the no notice was meant to forestall a scene like the one that torie described. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/139 "2004-07-01T21:40:01Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Given that she regretted it right away, and is seeking professional help to deal with the issue I would say that the answer to that question is an unqualified yes. This whole thread really reeks of kicking someone when they are down. It reminds me of a pack of feral dogs that sense weakness in one of the pack and bring it down and rip it to shreds. Revolting and ugly. Amen, brother! “Pack of feral dogs that sense weakness in one of the pack” is spot-on here. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049/140 "2004-07-01T21:41:59Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > But if it was me or Diane being torn down, you’d be right there at the forefront, no doubt :rolleyes: I prefer to defend the downtrodden and troubled, not attack them. If you were having problems and people attacked you unfairly, I’d defend you. I don’t hold any grudges. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-another-person-how-yoooooooooooooooou-doin/253049.md?page=8)