# You Beat your Dogs 2 Months Ago Because You’re Frustrated with Them, so You Adopt Another Dog **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041 "2010-08-03T19:39:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/301 "2010-08-10T08:42:24Z")
I love **Jack Batty**. Should I ever be insane enough to tap, smack, or beat my (now) 13-year-old Dalmatian she can go and live with him (or **Meyer6** , or anyone else in general agreement). And for the record **curlcoat** , walking my dog was useful training for giving her off-leash road sense. So your claims (somewhere-or-other; hard to find with all my eye-rolling and all the bits I just couldn’t be bothered reading) that walking a dog is for basically no reason at all except to crap if it has no yard, is a view that makes me think you are a cat who can use a keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/302 "2010-08-10T13:56:43Z")
> [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](#): > > I love **Jack Batty**. > > Should I ever be insane enough to tap, smack, or beat my (now) 13-year-old Dalmatian she can go and live with him (or **Meyer6** , or anyone else in general agreement). Good God, don’t give her to me. I don’t have a big back yard. The dog would be doomed! ---
**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/303 "2010-08-10T14:26:44Z")
No, no, **Jack Batty** …_doomed_ is a big shit-filled **curlcoat** backyard… ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/304 "2010-08-11T06:02:01Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I’ll look more closely at your reply curlcoat, but I searched through sites like the American Kennel Club and national breeding groups and all of them were completely silent on the issue of dog walking, which is why I didn’t include them. Most likely because it’s a non-issue for those who are highly experienced with dogs. > [@](#): > > What I am saying is that 1) every single site I saw -every single one- said that dog walking is not only beneficial but mandatory for owning dogs. Actually, they didn’t, which you will see when you have time to read what I wrote. > [@](#): > > 1. If you have a problem with my cites, you’re welcome to show me what you claim to be an authority you trust that backs your assertions. I doubt that I can prove that negative - I’ve been training dogs for over 40 years, and did it professionally for 20+, and my site says nothing about walking dogs. The closest I could come would be to find cites that use walking as part of training, but as you found when searching sites of dog clubs and the AKC, dog walking is so below the radar that it isn’t even mentioned. If you have time, look for Connie Cleveland or Bridget Carlson and read their sites - I don’t know it for a fact, but I’d be very surprised if either one of these nationally known trainers say that all dogs must be walked. (Remember, I did say that I doubted that any _trainer_ would say that all dogs must be walked, not random people on the internet.) One thing I did find on a quick search is [this](http://www.apdt.com/petowners/choose/myths.aspx) blurb on dominance myths, on the Assc of Pet Dog Trainers site - it’s the 5th myth down. > [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](#): > > And for the record **curlcoat** , walking my dog was useful training for giving her off-leash road sense. So your claims (somewhere-or-other; hard to find with all my eye-rolling and all the bits I just couldn’t be bothered reading) that walking a dog is for basically no reason at all except to crap if it has no yard, is a view that makes me think you are a cat who can use a keyboard. Apparently your ability to read is about up there with a cat asleep on a keyboard. What I said, in response to those who claim that all dogs must be walked, was the only reason a dog _must_ be walked is if it doesn’t have a yard to crap in. Everything else that can be done on a walk can be done in another place, in another way. There is certainly nothing wrong with taking a dog on a walk, but there is no reason to insist that all dogs need to be walked, or that those who do not are neglecting their dogs. Perhaps instead of rolling your eyes and not bothering to read, you should just not say anything so you don’t look like a twit. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/305 "2010-08-11T06:40:45Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Perhaps instead of rolling your eyes and not bothering to read, you should just not say anything so you don’t look like a twit. And today’s Irony Award goes to… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/306 "2010-08-11T15:08:45Z")
Unfortunately,\* the prize is a year’s supply of napkin sandwiches. \*But not ironically. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/307 "2010-08-11T20:47:50Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Unfortunately,\* the prize is a year’s supply of napkin sandwiches. > > [/SIZE] Okay, I’ve got to ask: What _is_ a napkin sandwich? Is it a napkin between bread OR is it the filling (you know, like a slice of ham or cheese) wrapped in a napkin instead of bread? Because I can sort of see the latter coming about. Back in, hmm, maybe the sixties my mother was on a no-carb diet and the thing she really missed was being able to have a sandwich for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/308 "2010-08-11T20:50:55Z")
A “napkin sandwich” sounds like something that should be in the Urban Dictionary. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/309 "2010-08-11T20:57:18Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > Unfortunately,\* the prize is a year’s supply of napkin sandwiches. > > > > [/SIZE] > > Okay, I’ve got to ask: What _is_ a napkin sandwich? Is it a napkin between bread OR is it the filling (you know, like a slice of ham or cheese) wrapped in a napkin instead of bread? [Condiments wrapped in a napkin.](http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11406555&postcount=1982) ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/310 "2010-08-12T04:53:12Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > > > Okay, I’ve got to ask: What _is_ a napkin sandwich? Is it a napkin between bread OR is it the filling (you know, like a slice of ham or cheese) wrapped in a napkin instead of bread? > > [Condiments wrapped in a napkin.](http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11406555&postcount=1982) Oh. Thanks for the answer. Curlcoat, my sympathies. When I was growing up my family was often on the thin edge, not to that point, but we children couldn’t help noticing the differences between what we had and what our friends did. It’s not a nice feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/311 "2010-08-12T05:10:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > A “napkin sandwich” sounds like something that should be in the Urban Dictionary. Yeah, but it would mean something totally different. Like something having to do with jacking off and or something. Curlcoat, I have known some hard times that others might think I was just straight making up if I shared it. So, even though I haven’t had it quite that hard, I feel you on that. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/312 "2010-08-12T12:39:18Z")
“I wanted to give her a Roman Helmet, or maybe a Dirty Sanchez, but she wouldn’t go for it, so we ended up doing the Napkin Sandwich.” … Something like that? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/313 "2010-08-12T15:56:48Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Curlcoat, I have known some hard times that others might think I was just straight making up if I shared it. Nobody thinks she was making it up. We just think she was an idiot for doing it. No doubt influenced by the fact that she was being her usual disgusting, judgmental, sleazebag self in the thread where it first came up. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/314 "2010-08-12T22:49:04Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Curlcoat, I have known some hard times that others might think I was just straight making up if I shared it. So, even though I haven’t had it quite that hard, I feel you on that. > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Curlcoat, my sympathies. When I was growing up my family was often on the thin edge, not to that point, but we children couldn’t help noticing the differences between what we had and what our friends did. > > It’s not a nice feeling. Thank you both. I didn’t really know any better back then, and I don’t have to live that way now so it’s almost like it was someone else’s life. However, it’s amazing how some people respond to stories like that, such as… > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Nobody thinks she was making it up. We just think she was an idiot for doing it. For finding something to eat?? > [@](#): > > No doubt influenced by the fact that she was being her usual disgusting, judgmental, sleazebag self in the thread where it first came up. And what is it that you are every time you open your, er, set fingers to the keyboard? Particularly dragging stuff in from another thread that has zero to do with the current subject? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/315 "2010-08-12T22:57:26Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > For finding something to eat?? Well, napkins have no calories. It would make more sense just to squirt condiments in your mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/316 "2010-08-13T02:53:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > > > Curlcoat, I have known some hard times that others might think I was just straight making up if I shared it. > > Nobody thinks she was making it up. We just think she was an idiot for doing it. No doubt influenced by the fact that she was being her usual disgusting, judgmental, sleazebag self in the thread where it first came up. Yeah, I’m not accusing anyone of thinking she made it up. I’m eluding to crazy shit from my own childhood that may seem unbelievable to folks. I didn’t read the thread where it came up. I was only doing a bit of ‘i feel you’ reaching out to another poster. Not taking sides. ETA: I had to UD ‘Roman Helmut’, but yeah, like that. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/317 "2010-08-13T03:05:12Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > > [@curlcoat](#): > > > > For finding something to eat?? > > Well, napkins have no calories. It would make more sense just to squirt condiments in your mouth. Calories wasn’t something we really thought about then, it was more what would fill our stomachs the most and keep us from getting hungry the longest. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/318 "2010-08-13T03:56:55Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Well, napkins have no calories. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/319 "2010-08-13T04:03:07Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > > [@curlcoat](#): > > > > For finding something to eat?? > > Well, napkins have no calories. It would make more sense just to squirt condiments in your mouth. I would imagine they have plenty of fiber. ---
**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041/320 "2010-08-13T07:54:27Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > … I’m eluding to crazy shit from my own childhood that may seem unbelievable to folks. Are you hiding from crazy shit, or hinting at crazy shit? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-beat-your-dogs-2-months-ago-because-you-re-frustrated-with-them-so-you-adopt-another-dog/549041.md?page=17)