# You can Bite, but Don't Envenomate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 29, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017 "2008-05-29T15:12:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/1 "2008-05-29T15:12:36Z")

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Poisonous Snake Bites Man’s Penis in Australia:

[http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2008/05/29/4198\_local-news.html](http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2008/05/29/4198_local-news.html)

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> “It certainly had a swipe at him,” an ambulance spokesman said yesterday.
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> "But it didn’t envenomate him.
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> “As it came through it must have got a bit of a shock.”
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> The snake beat a hasty retreat, leaving its victim with a scratch, vomiting and abdomen pain.

No poison, but the guy had abdominal pain and vomiting? Man, the guy was lucky.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/2 "2008-05-29T16:06:01Z")

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“The doctor said you’re gonna die.” 😃

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/3 "2008-05-29T16:56:33Z")

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Trouser snake, meet Poisonous snake.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/4 "2008-05-29T18:17:41Z")

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YOWCH!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/5 "2008-05-29T19:27:52Z")

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“envenomate” So that’s what the kids are calling it these days.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/6 "2008-05-29T20:25:18Z")

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If it didn’t envenomate him, why the abdominal pain and vomiting? Or was that just a psychosomatic reaction to getting his willy munched on?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/7 "2008-05-29T21:15:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If it didn’t envenomate him, why the abdominal pain and vomiting? Or was that just a psychosomatic reaction to getting his willy munched on?

That’s what I said in the OP.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/8 "2008-05-29T21:17:15Z")

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The second bit, I think, **Canadjun** , although dry bites can still really, really hurt.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/9 "2008-05-29T21:35:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Scarlett67]  
“The doctor said you’re gonna die.” 😃  
[/QUOTE]  
Beaten to it by the second post. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/10 "2008-05-29T22:15:54Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
Man, the guy was lucky.  
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For certain values of ‘lucky’. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/11 "2008-05-30T00:18:36Z")

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Yanno, looking at this snake’s [Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_brown_snake), I’m sure this guy spent a long night or two wondering if his tallywhacker would still work.

The toxin contains a neurotoxic agents, as well as a coagulants. Even with [pressure immobilization](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakebite#Pressure_immobilization) being used to contain the toxin, if any had been injected into the guy’s wedding tackle, it seems that such a technique offers the affected limb as something of a sacrifice to the venom, while trying to save the patient. Considering how sensitive the penis’ structures can be to nerve or vascular damage, it would have been looming large in my mind, at least.

It may be ironic to say that this guy was lucky, but I don’t think it is wrong.

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/12 "2008-05-30T00:59:32Z")

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Now the bestiality crowd has gone too far!

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/13 "2008-05-30T01:08:04Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
Beaten to it by the second post. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

One of my favorite jokes.

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/14 "2008-05-30T02:00:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr Bus Guy]  
One of my favorite jokes.  
[/QUOTE]

As well as,

“'Scuse me, doc, but can you take away the pain but leave the swelling?”

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/15 "2008-05-30T02:45:10Z")

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“Okay…You can bite it just a little. But don’t put none o’ your juice in it!”

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/16 "2008-05-30T04:35:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Biffy the Elephant Shrew]  
“Okay…You can bite it just a little. But don’t put none o’ your juice in it!”  
[/QUOTE]

Is that one of those “hullo” bites?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/17 "2008-05-30T05:02:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Canadjun]  
If it didn’t envenomate him, why the abdominal pain and vomiting? Or was that just a psychosomatic reaction to getting his willy munched on?  
[/QUOTE]

[semi-educated guess]The snake didn’t envenomate but any kind of residual venom on or around the fangs would be enough to cause a reaction. This ain’t your momma’s copperhead; the eastern brown is the second deadliest snake in the world.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/18 "2008-05-30T05:20:27Z")

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Sometimes, you just gotta love wikipedia

[Eastern Brown Snake](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_brown_snake#Known_fatalities)

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> Known Fatalities …
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> Please help improve this article or section by expanding it.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/19 "2008-05-30T05:27:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
[semi-educated guess]The snake didn’t envenomate but any kind of residual venom on or around the fangs would be enough to cause a reaction. This ain’t your momma’s copperhead; the eastern brown is the second deadliest snake in the world.  
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Yeah, but why would he have abdominal pains if the snake didn’t envenomate him? Could have just been a psychosomatic reaction to getting his leather mule fang rode.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-can-bite-but-dont-envenomate/451017/20 "2008-05-30T05:34:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical]  
Yeah, but why would he have abdominal pains if the snake didn’t envenomate him?  
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Are you serious? I just told you that.

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