# "You can't blame me for being oversensitve on my period." Bullshit. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835 "2006-09-15T14:39:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/101 "2006-09-16T20:25:23Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > I don’t question your intention, only your execution. > > I don’y know about **Malacandra** , but **ETF** clearly did not. She asked you about it just upthread. > > What more do I need? > > While you are at it, why don’t you point out exactly how these posts are referencing your wife’s anger. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780416&postcount=49](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780416&postcount=49) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780864&postcount=55](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780864&postcount=55) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780872&postcount=56](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780872&postcount=56) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781005&postcount=59](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781005&postcount=59) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781019&postcount=60](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781019&postcount=60) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781044&postcount=62](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781044&postcount=62) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781068&postcount=63](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7781068&postcount=63) > > And don’t weasel out by saying that they are ‘thematicall connected.’ That is not a direct reference, which is your support for claiming that\* “This should be a clue to the savvy reader that, I dunno, I was projecting…that I was not really literally answering lisacurl’s post per se, but that I was rather cleverly referencing information I revealed earlier, based on the apparently erroneous assumption that whoever was reading the thread might be paying attention to what was said in it.” > \* > What we are loking for is a direct reference to (to use your word) _information._ Not thematic similarities. _Information._ Say what? Are you really, truly, _honestly_ this fucking dumb, or are you just yanking my dick? My response to **lisacurl** (for the 900th time) was a direct reference to my first post in the thread, made with the assumption that whoever read the second would have read the first, put the two together (since they were made by the same poster,) and concluded, with the help of my little faux-vBB tag, that I was modifying or elaborating on information provided in the earlier post, possibly in a light-hearted manner. This. Is. Not. That. Complicated. Nor is it terribly unusual for the SDMB for someone to indirectly reference an earlier post in the thread (or even a set of facts or posts in a completely different thread, providing that set of facts is weel-known enough around the Board.) But my God, I’m not even asking you to draw on Common Knowledge or board culture. Just read the thread and think a little, would you? In short, [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780679&postcount=53) is a direct reference to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7780211&postcount=42), which appears a mere ten posts earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/102 "2006-09-16T20:36:45Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Say what? Are you really, truly, _honestly_ this fucking dumb, or are you just yanking my dick? Eat’em and weep, wonderboy. > [@Me](#): > > Are you under the impression that every post in every thread references every preceding post? Your direct response – > [@You](#): > > Uh, yeah. You see, that’s why it’s called a “thread.” ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/103 "2006-09-16T20:41:52Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Eat’em and weep, wonderboy. > Your direct response – You really are this stupid. Of course every post in a thread references every preceding post. It’s hardly a weasel to claim that they are thematically related, since, by all that is good and holy, **they are thematically related** , and therefore reference each other, as I said way back here: “It is therefore not unreasonable to assume that each and every post is somehow thematically related.” My God. What the living fuck is wrong with you? Some naturally **directly** reference others. Some only **indirectly** reference others. I feel like I’m trying to expalin the concept of “orange” to someone who is convinced that I’m talking about “plantar warts.” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/104 "2006-09-16T20:47:34Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > **ETF** fully understood that I was not talking to **lisacurl** , or at least, she responded as if she knew. You read what I’ve said and got THAT out of it? Good grief. Maybe you should stop yelling at **Contrapuntal** about how to define a thread and actually listen to what he’s saying. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/105 "2006-09-16T20:53:58Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > You really are this stupid. Of course every post in a thread references every preceding post. It’s hardly a weasel to claim that they are thematically related, since, by all that is good and holy, **they are thematically related** , and therefore reference each other, as I said way back here: “It is therefore not unreasonable to assume that each and every post is somehow thematically related.” “Thematically related” does not equal “references” no matter how red your face gets when shouting it. All of your bukllshit has been based on this false theory that what is not stated is implied, and therefore you are free to bandy about terms like “attack” and 'yelling" and attach them to other posters comments on the unbelievable premise that since everything that is not stated is implied, and what is implied in one is implied in all, due to the Thematic Relationship Principle, that everyone who reads a thread is responsible for not only knowing every direct reference in the thread, but every indirect one and implied one as well, including the ones you made up. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/106 "2006-09-16T21:12:16Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > You read what I’ve said and got THAT out of it? Good grief. Maybe you should stop yelling at **Contrapuntal** about how to define a thread and actually listen to what he’s saying. > > Sheesh. I apologize, then. You didn’t get it. I still feel you should have. As I said, the two posts were only 10 posts apart. As for what **Contrapuntal** is saying, well, what the hell is he saying? He’s saying that I _wasn’t_, in fact, referencing my ealier post? He’s saying that it was clumsily done? WTF? It is as plain as the nose on your face. It could not have been plainer. Seriously. I have exactly one response to the thread before that, a few short posts upstream of my response to **lisacurl**. Anybody with half a brain should be able to put them together, especially in light of the fact that I included a giant, honkin’ clue to it in my second post. Good lord. Do you people sit around at parties and take every single comment made by someone else as a completely separate, independent entity, or do you actually remember things and form connections? > [@](#): > > “Thematically related” does not equal “references” no matter how red your face gets when shouting it. All of your bukllshit has been based on this false theory that what is not stated is implied, and therefore you are free to bandy about terms like “attack” and 'yelling" and attach them to other posters comments on the unbelievable premise that since everything that is not stated is implied, and what is implied in one is implied in all, due to the Thematic Relationship Principle, that everyone who reads a thread is responsible for not only knowing every direct reference in the thread, but every indirect one and implied one as well, including the ones you made up. Brilliant. Moron. I am saying that **1) second post referenced my first, and 2) that my wife does not have the right to direct her anger and pain at me during PMS, since I am not allowed to direct anger or pain at her, regardless of the state of my health.** All your other “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” horseshit is a ludicrous attempt to muddy the waters. And yes, by God, if you go off half-cocked at me without fully understanding the thread and my responses in it, especially when they were made within such a short span of the thread, you’re fucking worthless. Go drool somewhere. I was not yelling at **lisacurl** , and never was. The only person in this thread I’m yelling at is your idiotic ass. Christ. Learn comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/107 "2006-09-16T21:21:07Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Moron. I am saying that **1) second post referenced my first, and 2) that my wife does not have the right to direct her anger and pain at me during PMS, since I am not allowed to direct anger or pain at her, regardless of the state of my health.** All your other “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” horseshit is a ludicrous attempt to muddy the waters. You also said that every post in every thread referenced every preceding post. You can hem and haw and waffle and weasel all you want, but your very words betray you. > [@](#): > > And yes, by God, if you go off half-cocked at me without fully understanding the thread and my responses in it, especially when they were made within such a short span of the thread, you’re fucking worthless. Go drool somewhere. Ooh baby baby. You are so convincing when you spit foam. Everyone understood you but me, eh? Hah! > [@](#): > > I was not yelling at **lisacurl** , and never was. The only person in this thread I’m yelling at is your idiotic ass. Christ. Learn comprehension. Grab yourself some of that comprehension and point out where I, or anyone, has accused you of yelling at **lisacurl.** ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/108 "2006-09-16T21:27:46Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > You also said that every post in every thread referenced every preceding post. You can hem and haw and waffle and weasel all you want, but your very words betray you. They do, but this is hardly relevant to the point of the thread. It’s a continuing mystery why you are harping on it. > [@](#): > > Everyone understood you but me, eh? Hah! I don’t know if they did or not. They certainly should have. It wasn’t that much of a reach. > [@](#): > > Grab yourself some of that comprehension and point out where I, or anyone, has accused you of yelling at **lisacurl.** So you’re offended why again? Does it have anything to do with the OP, or anything I actually said, or do you just like incompetently nitpicking random posters? I was expressing frustration with my wife’s behavior during PMS, which I have a reasonable right to do, since that’s what this thread is about. I did it in way that fried the circuits in your brain. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/109 "2006-09-16T22:10:24Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > They do, but this is hardly relevant to the point of the thread. Humor me. Prove it to me. Show me how the posts I cited refernce every preceding post. > [@](#): > > So you’re offended why again? Does it have anything to do with the OP, or anything I actually said, or do you just like incompetently nitpicking random posters? It’s in the thread, isn’t it? By the Thematic Relevance Principle it **must** have something to do with the OP, right? You said you never yelled at **lisacurl**. Perhaps my response should have been "Who said you did? Or, “What does have to do with the price of tea in China?” You also said in it response to a quote of mine. Please tell me I am allowed to infer that if you are directly responding to me that it somehow relates to what I said. I mean if all kinds of unspoken, indirect, counter-intuitive stuff is in every single post, surely the overtly stated stuff is there as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/110 "2006-09-16T22:50:21Z")
So you have no actual answer for my question? You prefer to play pointless rhetorical games in order to distract from the OP? Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/111 "2006-09-17T00:54:11Z")
Geez… look at all this ranting and short-temperedness and taking things out of proportion! Ya think some folks here are running really short on estrogen as of late? …what? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/112 "2006-09-17T14:27:51Z")
i wonder why p.m.s. wasn`t at todays levels when nobody knew about it ?at least not so that other people would notice ! it sounds like a nice little cop out for bullying and tantrum throwing to some of us !if you`re in court for assault and give the genuine excuse that you`ve been a 60 a day smoker for 10 years but gave up 3 weeks ago (no not me !its an example!) and you`ve been suffering major withdrawal symptons ever since !the court would say tough ! thats not a mitigating circumstance ;you`re a grown up show a bit of self discipline ! but p.m.s ? i do believe as a self fulfilling prophecy some women get the symptons cos they expect the symptons (phycosamatic condition) but i wonder how many women would claim to be unable to control their behaviour if the law said "fine you`re not able to behave like a sane person for 4 or 5 days so you`ll have to spend that period in solitary out of society EVERY month of your life while fertile ? i bet the poor little dears d be falling over themselves to show that it`d made no change to their behaviour !and ladies it`s not cute or sweet to start crying over imbecilic things for no reason ,just a demonstration of lack of self control. ---
**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/113 "2006-09-17T14:32:52Z")
FWIW, **Ogre** , I knew you what you meant with your faux-UBB [projecting] tags. Eesh. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/114 "2006-09-17T14:47:54Z")
I bet you get a lot of dates, **Lust4Life**. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/115 "2006-09-17T17:07:59Z")
First, **Ogre** , I got that you were referring to projecting your own issues onto **Lisacurl** , but I didn’t get that it was from the first page, because I read that yesterday, and read the second page today. So I do agree with you that your faux vb tag was cool. I don’t agree with you that everyone should remember every thing that has been said upthread - I usually read every post in a thread, and I still miss things. I’m human. Second, you have my complete sympathy for having a wife that takes her hormonal issues out on you. You are absolutely right when you say you don’t deserve it. As husbands and wives, yeah, we should and do cut each other some slack, but we should also be careful not to use the people we’re close to as convenient punching bags. As a result of this thread, I told my husband that I have PMS - he didn’t know. So yeah, it is possible to control your shit, if you want to, and I do. I recognize that my husband is not the cause of my problems, and doesn’t deserve to pay for them. I’m not sure I’m on board with the idea of expecting people to leave you alone for days at a time - life doesn’t just stop because a woman has a hormone issue. Is it more difficult to be civil when you want to scream and cry? Hell yes. Are you still expected to do it? Hell yes. Welcome to being a part of a society. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/116 "2006-09-17T17:25:01Z")
> [@indecisive1](#): > > Men get really uptight when the womenfolk are not all squishy and sweet. Fuckers. Okay, let’s redefine “normal, rational behavior” as “squishy and sweet” and “oversensitivity” to “normal”. There we go; the worst that “womenfolk” ever get is normal; therefore, they are morally superior and, given that their ordinary behavior is “squishy and sweet”, the bouts of “normality” must be tolerated. QED. Similarly, let me define the “70%” I got on my last exam to be a “90%”, and the “90%” on the first exam to be a “110%”. Grade problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/117 "2006-09-17T17:49:19Z")
I don’t think that a lot of Dopers, at least, will give the percentage of men who are like PMS’ing women “all the time” a pass, so I don’t see why that should be an excuse. Oversensitivity and pointless aggression are bad no matter who does it or the reason. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/118 "2006-09-17T18:33:20Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > Anyway, when I’m having a bad day, whether it be for physical or emotional reasons, I don’t take it out on those around me . . . Male or female, **you** are not normal! ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/119 "2006-09-18T00:51:15Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Uh, yeah. Pretty much, because I did not do anything to deserve it. When I have the flu, I’m still expected to act like a human being. It is unacceptable for me to direct my anger at someone else, _because they did not cause my pain_. It is acceptable to act like one is in pain, but it is not acceptable to take it out on one’s friends and family. Period. Ever. Control yourself. A well-adjusted human being is someone who says, “I’m in pain, please leave me alone.” A self-centered asshole is someone who hears that and continues to annoy and aggravate that person. You said you were projecting your own issues here, so you’re obviously not responding rationally. Poor dear, you probably have PMS. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835/120 "2006-09-18T00:53:39Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Uh, yeah, except you haven’t been following the conversation. Note that my first response in the thread mentioned that my wife sometimes takes her anger out on me during PMS. This is very important. Remember it. > > Then note that at the end of my post in reply to **lisacurl** , I wrote “[/Ogre projecting].” This should be a clue to the savvy reader that, I dunno, I was _projecting_…that I was not really literally answering **lisacurl** ’s post _per se_, but that I was rather cleverly referencing information I revealed earlier, based on the apparently erroneous assumption that whoever was reading the thread might be paying attention to what was said in it. My wife sometimes uses the same justification, that I have somehow violated “boundaries” which I did not know existed, and which do not exist most of the time, and how I should have known about them all along, psychic wonderboy that I am. The difference is that instead of getting massively grumpy every few months, my wife has a tendency to get snappish and waspish pretty much every month. > > So, in conclusion, my post was a (rather light-hearted) way of making several points: 1) that we can’t afford to just leave women alone (well, I can’t, anyway) for five days every month, 2) that I’m not likely to react well to being yelled at for no apparent reason, 3) I still need to communicate with her and get her input on various matters, and 4) I don’t appreciate being a target of anger that I have not earned. It’s not like she doesn’t know it’s coming. It happens at roughly the same time every month. > > To continue with this tedious redux of a conversation whose point should have been obvious had you been paying attention, the next post was in response to **ETF** , who asked if I would be similarly disturbed by being attacked by someone with a migraine, a flu, the gout, etc. Well, of course I would. Why? Because I did nothing to deserve it. Hell, why wouldn’t I? I’m not allowed to attack other people when I’m sick or feeling bad. > > Are we clear yet, or do I need to deconstruct the rest of my posting history for you? Good lord, maybe you should tell all that to your wife or your LiveJournal. Your personal issues are causing you to make an ass of yourself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-cant-blame-me-for-being-oversensitve-on-my-period-bullshit/372835.md?page=7)