# You did nothing? Fuck you

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 14, 2026, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674 "2026-01-14T02:46:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/81 "2026-01-16T17:54:04Z")

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> [@velomont](#):
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> (including the equivalent of de-Nazification)

Yup they are doing their best to mimic Nazis. Their uniform style is lacking though.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/82 "2026-01-16T18:20:26Z")

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> [@velomont](#):
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> The chances of this actually occurring are, IMO, low as the low-life, racist, pro-ignorance, pro-might is right, cat is now out of the bag and I don’t really know how possible it will be to put it back in.

If it’s possible it would take generations, and that’s a big “if”.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/83 "2026-01-16T18:27:06Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> [Trump still would have won in 2024 even if everyone had turned out to vote](https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition), Pew finds

That makes no difference. If you are on the left of the American political spectrum and didn’t vote or voted third party in 2024. You voted for fascism. Everything that is happening now is what you asked for. You said “I’m ok with fascism”. Fuck you.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/84 "2026-01-16T18:40:01Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Vibrant societies do not elect insane gameshow hosts to be president and the idea that this country is going to snap out of it is nonsense.

While I agree, I think we should have a path. Not destruction. These racists and bigots will not easily slim back under their rocks.

I hope that they will someday finally see the error of their ways. But don’t care that much about them as long as they leave decent people alone.

If you go totally pesimist, you give up. We should not give up.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/85 "2026-01-16T18:42:37Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> While I agree, I think we should have a path. Not destruction. These racists and bigots will not easily slim back under their rocks.

My point is that I don’t think that America has the capacity to have develop a path and of the remaining options, collapse is the best. I’m also not suggesting that we do anything to bring it about, only that it is highly likely. In a way, Trump is the best case scenario for a fascist America, it would be much worse for the world if he was competent.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/86 "2026-01-16T20:11:34Z")

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It’s been awhile but the gist of it was only the one percent would have any kind of rights and only the middle class would pay taxes. I know people will probably lambast me but who am I supposed to believe?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/87 "2026-01-16T20:16:49Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> I know people will probably lambast me but who am I supposed to believe?

You probably shouldn’t believe fan fiction you read on social media.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/88 "2026-01-16T20:19:15Z")

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Who says it’s fan fiction ? Why do you believe them? Just because they’re left leaning? Just because they’re anti-Trump? Pretty convenient if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/89 "2026-01-16T20:23:33Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Who says it’s fan fiction ? Why do you believe them?

Here’s the thing, when you make an outrageous claim, the burden is on you to prove it. Nobody can prove a negative, after all.

I believe that it’s bullshit because it’s ridiculous. What do you think “only the one percent would have any kind of rights” means? And “only the middle class would pay taxes”… From Kamala Harris? A Democrat? You thought a Democrat would eliminate taxes for most people, when that’s not only radically different from anything they’ve ever done, but it’s also the opposite of what even the Republicans accuse them of doing?

You’re asking why I don’t believe crazy claims that have no evidence and fly in the face of everything that has ever happened before? Where did you even get this information from, or is the answer, “I don’t remember”?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/90 "2026-01-16T21:01:28Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Trump is the best case scenario for a fascist America, it would be much worse for the world if he was competent.

This I will agree with.

But I think this can be turned around. It happened in Germany. Not easily by any means. And not in my lifetime. His supporters will not listen to facts. Well…their fact is they want a racist bigoted rapist for president.

We should probably have a MAGA law like Germany’s that despise Nazis. Same thing.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/91 "2026-01-16T21:07:17Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> But I think this can be turned around. It happened in Germany. Not easily by any means. And not in my lifetime. His supporters will not listen to facts. Well…their fact is they want a racist bigoted rapist for president.

Please remember that Germany’s turn around entailed being conquered; occupied and divided in two which is to say Germany’s turn around involved collapse which is what I’m saying needs to happen in America.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/92 "2026-01-16T21:12:51Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Please remember that Germany’s turn around entailed being conquered; occupied and divided in two which is to say Germany’s turn around involved collapse which is what I’m saying needs to happen in America.

Yeah, Germany ceased to exist as an independent entity for decades, so even though there is a country today called Germany, the Germany that was taken over by Nazis _was_ destroyed.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/93 "2026-01-16T21:28:10Z")

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The fact that so much wasted effort is spent hyperventilating about Trump instead of the real geo-political danger, which is the likely ascent of China, has made me realize that the real challenge to the West is myopia. But go ahead and solve the world’s problems by ostracizing your uncles.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/94 "2026-01-16T21:34:07Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> so much wasted effort is spent hyperventilating about Trump instead of the real geo-political danger, which is the likely ascent of China

Classic false dichotomy. There can be more than one “real geopolitical danger” in existence at the same time, and Trump’s antidemocracy authoritarian maladministration is absolutely one of them. (It’s also the one that Americans have the best chance of directly doing something about.)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/95 "2026-01-16T21:37:09Z")

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Yeah, you are right. But Trump and the USA, for all their dangers, don’t have the long-term strategy that China has. We have a relatively short time between elections and our politicians have to pander to dumb ass voters every 2-6 years depending on the office. Plus, if you think immigration is an issue today wait til the oceans rise.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/96 "2026-01-16T21:40:49Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Unlike you, I have failed to cut these 2 friends out of my life. The only way I could do so would be to remove myself from 2 groups of golfers whom I have played with for 35 years.

I can’t believe anyone would seriously argue that if you stopped golfing with these guys, they would see the error of their ways. I’ve heard far too many accounts of people who disown members of their own family and the result is them running to their MAGA cult to complain about how oppressed they are and aren’t liberals crazy these days. They just double down, they become even more isolated from opposing views, and generally become shittier people.

If I thought it would make a single bit of difference I might consider it, but I think it’s mostly performative.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/97 "2026-01-16T21:41:19Z")

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You are a dipshit.

Trump is doing damage to the western world a thousand times faster than China is. Even if your concern is keeping the west on top of the world, Trump is your biggest threat and biggest concern by many orders of magnitude.

You’re just in the shitty position of trying to still attack liberals while not acknowledging that you’re essentially working for the side of evil so you try to pretend you’re Trump-agnostic or something.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/98 "2026-01-16T21:41:32Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The fact that so much wasted effort is spent hyperventilating about Trump instead of the real geo-political danger, which is the likely ascent of China, has made me realize that the real challenge to the West is myopia.

If you are in a room with a rabid hyena, and the house is burning down, you deal with the hyena first before you worry about the fire.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/99 "2026-01-16T21:42:14Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> But Trump and the USA, for all their dangers, don’t have the long-term strategy that China has.

You should absolutely feel free to start a thread about the dangers you perceive in the increasing global ascendancy of China. This, however, is a thread about the current Trump administration in the US.

> [@octopus](#):
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> Plus, if you think immigration is an issue today wait til the oceans rise.

Ironically, [China is at least treating the problems of climate change and the corresponding need to control emissions with way more seriousness and practical resolve than the US under Donald Trump](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4y159190go), although its goals still fall far short of what is needed.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-did-nothing-fuck-you/1026674/100 "2026-01-16T21:43:05Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Yeah, Germany ceased to exist as an independent entity for decades, so even though there is a country today called Germany, the Germany that was taken over by Nazis _was_ destroyed.

This is what I mean by collapse. I’m not suggesting it collapse and stay collapsed.

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