# YOU DISGRUNTLED FUCK. Take Your Red Worm And Shove It Up Your Ass. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 26, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887 "2001-07-26T19:35:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/1 "2001-07-26T19:35:52Z")
I am not alone here. I don’t care what Cisco Systems did to piss you off. It doesn’t matter. All I know is that you have had me using my Goddamn 56k for the past two three while you sit at home and laugh your retarted ass off. Have you no decency? You have stranded millions of people, not to mention hundreds of perfectly harmess companies and possibly dozens of non-profit organizations that use Quest because it is the only high speed service available to them in their area. I didn’t CHOOSE to use a Cisco modem and I would not be surprised in the least if you have been seriously fucked over by Cisco. But the way you chose to deal with it was seriously FUCKED UP. Grow up you selfish, pathetic asshole. Instead of pouring sugar into the gas tank of your middle-management dip shit of a boss, you thought it would be funny to pour it in the tanks of the whole goddamn parking lot. Your fucking barista. The goddamn security guy at the front door. The cute girl in the cubicle down the hall. Your fucking cousin in Minnesota. Do us all a favor and repent. Do something to fix this shit. NOW! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/2 "2001-07-26T19:43:29Z")
Yeah ya bastard! :: shaking fist:: :: lowering it:: what’s going on? Could I have a link to a report or something? I want to be angry too! jarbaby ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/3 "2001-07-26T20:24:02Z")
Geez, **Jarbabyj** , does **wishbone** have to spell it out for you? It’s clear, if you chop the message up into tiny bits and rearrange it, you get: _selfish cute girl in Minnesota, CHOOSE your retarted ass. Your millions of security companies have been pouring sugar and high speed piss on my perfectly harmless cousin. Cisco Systems middle management doesn’t matter. I am alone here, stranded down the hall and possibly FUCKED UP._ The meaning of which is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/4 "2001-07-26T20:28:26Z")
Sorry about the capitalization there, **jarbabyj**. ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/5 "2001-07-26T20:46:50Z")
I should probably keep my damn mouth shut, but I guess there is no real reason to keep you in the dark. In only the past few weeks, which is why you won’t find much, if anything, written about it on the web, ISP’s(internet service providers) that use LAN’s(local area networks), which are high-speed internet services that provide data transfer at speeds of over 7 megabytes per second, have been experiencing total chaos and shutdown as a result of a virus known as the Red Worm. The Red Worm is believed to have originated from Cisco Systems, since only the ISPs that use Cisco System routers(modems) have been effected. Internal investigations have concluded that the Red Worm was programmed into the system intentionally, probably by a current or recently dismissed employee. The bastard(s?) at whom this flame is directed. I have only heard it mentioned briefly on my local news, but I suspect that it is intentionally being muffled to avoid having bad press directed toward both Qwest DSL™ here in the western U.S., Cisco Systems, and all the other ISPs nation-wide that use Cisco routers. All are extremely large corporations whom I suspect have the influence necessary to ensure that this does not become a highly puplicized ordeal. They want to ensure that their sales are not effected by this unfortunate event, which may only last a month, and does not make a lasting inpression on the quality of their service. If I were in their shoes I would be doing the same thing. As for my sources, I know a guy that works for another ISP service, though he is not a competitor of Qwest. He works for a data-transfer service in Canada. He says that the problem is pretty much common knowledge among those in the industry but that news agencies are trying to avoid reporting on the virus to deter lawsuits from Qwest, Cisco, and others on the grounds of slander. ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/6 "2001-07-26T21:14:16Z")
Sorry, sorry. Darn it, I used the French version of my translator, there. I’ll try again. Here’s what **wishbone** really meant: _Have I no decency? I have FUCKED UP the gas tanks of millions of retarted middle-management people. I am fucking my Goddam cousin in Minnesota. But I CHOOSE to shit in the cubicle down the hall. I thought pouring sugar in my ass would be funny. You cute security guy at Quest, I repent._ I, for one, forgive you **wishbone**. I think we can all identify with what you’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/7 "2001-07-26T21:27:56Z")
Red, red worm goes to my head, Won’t let me forget that I still need Cisco Red, red worm, it’s up to you All I can do I’ve done Queries won’t go, queries won’t go Life was fine every time, Notes to you leave my desk I was wrong, now I find Just one script makes you forget Red, red worm, you stay closed to me Don’t let me be alone It’s tearing apart my blue heart Red red worm, you make me feel so stern, Blockin’ my flow like a Tampax berm Red red worm, you make me feel so bad, I lose my porno with my monkey in my hand Red red worm, you make me feel so sad, MP3s don’t download, it make me feel mad Red red worm, you make me want to whine, Work is backed up and we got a deadline Red red worm, you give me no ping Give me no ping, cannot twiddle my thing Red red worm, you give me no l33t love Your kind of lovin’ like a schraft from above Red red worm, fucked me right from the start, Fucked from the start, and with all of your heart Red red worm in an eighties style Red red worm in a beat modem style Yeah… ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/8 "2001-07-27T02:08:26Z")
yeah sofa king! two thumbs up, yer funny. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/9 "2001-07-27T12:01:16Z")
One bad thing about Red Worm is that it can seriously hurt your privacy - when your system is infected, it pulls data off of your hard drive and emails it as an attachment to people on your mailing list. It doesn’t take much hacking to remove the virus from the attachment and view what the actual data was. I know people who have found all kinds of personal info from infected people, including .zip files full of personal pictures, mail archives, etc. ---
**Author:** ![False\_God](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@False\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/False_God)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/10 "2001-07-27T14:08:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*One bad thing about Red Worm is that it can seriously hurt your privacy - when your system is infected, it pulls data off of your hard drive and emails it as an attachment to people on your mailing list. It doesn’t take much hacking to remove the virus from the attachment and view what the actual data was. I know people who have found all kinds of personal info from infected people, including .zip files full of personal pictures, mail archives, etc. \*\* This might just be me, but I sense that we’re talking about two things here: SirCam and the Code Red Worm. Writeups and fixes are at Symantec here: [http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/codered.worm.html](http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/codered.worm.html) [http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.html](http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.html) They’re both worms, and they’re both bastards, but they’re very different. The writeups say it better than I can, but in a nutshell SirCam carries its own STMP functionality so it doesn’t have to propagate through Outlook (but it can). It grabs files from your hard drive and emails them with the worm included to people in your address book or your browser’s cache. Code Red, on the other hand, uses your connection to throw packets at a specific IP-which WAS the White House until they moved it to a different IP. I believe this is referred to as a DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service), but I may be wrong. Code Red attacks unpatched IIS machines, but not specifically Cisco equipment, IIRC. If the traffic is routed through Cisco devices, then it screws it up somehow (see above-I’ve been doing fixes all week and may be wrong). Both of these are stupid, and I think the people who write and execute malicious code for kicks should be punished severely. Maybe by having to fix old Windows systems at schools and community centers. Or by having to explain where the “any” key is for the four hundredth time. OTOH, if someone (like MS) is going to push a crappy product with security flaws, then they in turn should be dealt with. It’s the rest of us that get caught in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/11 "2001-07-27T14:26:57Z")
Some links to info about Red Worm: [One](http://http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124134) [Two](http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-23.html) [Three](http://www.sophos.com/support/news/#codered) Code Red was designed to launch a Distributed, Coordinated Attack (“DCA”, often incorrectly labeled “DDoS” by the media) at a specific IP (US White House). ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/12 "2001-07-27T14:51:53Z")
I just love that even in a strange, ranting, joking thread that I don’t quite understand, you overachieving SDMB _bastards_ still hijack the hell out of it and provide me with helpful and cogent information. _AAUUUGHHHHH!_ ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/13 "2001-07-27T17:02:40Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/14 "2001-07-27T20:32:36Z")
**Sofa King** , honey, if you’re single, I’m available. 😉 That was funny. Robin ---
**Author:** ![LoverBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@LoverBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoverBoy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2001, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/15 "2001-07-28T07:28:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tranquilis \* > Code Red was designed to launch a Distributed, Coordinated Attack (“DCA”, often incorrectly labeled “DDoS” by the media) at a specific IP (US White House). [hijack] What’s the difference between a DCA and a DDoS attack? [/hijack] - Rob ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2001, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/16 "2001-07-29T00:49:32Z")
> [@](#): > > [hijack] > What’s the difference between a DCA and a DDoS attack? > [/hijack]\*\* A DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack was/is Michael Vatis’ (successful, it seems) [attempt](http://www.vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=104&page=4) to label as ‘new’ a style of attack first described years previously by a number of computer science researchers, the Distributed, Coordinated Attack. The DCA is the favorite of “Script Kiddies”, crackers of low talent, little code-specific education, and much persistance. They’re frequently executed by taking advantage of the large numbers of improperly-secured computers connected to the internet, installing by various means ‘trojan horse’ software, such as the infamous Sub7 client. Once a number of zombies have been collected, the cracker will instruct them to all attack a specific target simultaneously. Another varient is for a number of script kiddies to gang-up on a specific target, greatly increasing the effect of the attack. Vatis was the [recently-sacked](http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2651084,00.html) head of the [much](http://www.vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=350&page=4) [sneered-at](http://vmyths.com/resource.cfm?id=26&page=1) “National Infrstructure Protection Center” ([NIPC](http://www.nipc.gov/)), a unit of the FBI. Curiously, even the the FBI can’t get it straight, sometimes correctly using ‘DCA’, sometimes using Vatis’ publicity-ploy label. Links: [One](http://www.vmyths.com/) [Two](http://www.nipc.gov/) [Three](http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/) [Four](http://www.vmyths.com/resource.cfm) [Five](http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d01323.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Kebert\_Xela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a87d85/32.png) [@Kebert\_Xela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kebert_Xela)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/17 "2006-07-21T03:48:38Z")
I have no idea what’s going on in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/18 "2006-07-21T03:51:55Z")
Probably because what’s going on in this thread actually went on five years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/19 "2006-07-21T03:57:43Z")
> [@Hal Briston](#): > > Probably because what’s going on in this thread actually went on five years ago. While we are here I would advise dopers to avoid New York this September. ---
**Author:** ![bloo-bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@bloo-bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bloo-bird)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887/20 "2006-07-21T04:05:44Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > While we are here I would advise dopers to avoid New York this September. brilliant. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-disgruntled-fuck-take-your-red-worm-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/73887.md?page=2)