# "You don't look too bad, you just need a boob job."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122 "2003-08-19T03:37:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jesleigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@jesleigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesleigh)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/101 "2003-08-22T02:07:03Z")

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let me clarify…they ask me how much my boobs cost (they think I’ve had a boob job), not how much a reduction cost

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**Author:** ![transitionality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@transitionality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/transitionality)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/102 "2003-08-22T06:10:25Z")

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You must have really unnatural-looking spherical half-globes for boobs.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/103 "2003-08-22T12:14:03Z")

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**transitionality** , I’ve had the dubious pleasure of reading some of your posts over the past few days. And allow me to say: I don’t like what I’m seeing.

If you carry on in this hateful, confrontational vein, your posting privileges on the SDMB will be revoked.

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**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/104 "2003-08-22T17:50:27Z")

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To get back on track…  
I’m a grown-up guy (wheee!) who has had an average number of sexual relationships.  
I can’t EVER remember finding myself talking to a woman about her breasts.  
Even the one who had a different name for each one…

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/105 "2003-08-22T19:28:51Z")

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If he was actually a friend you could have said what you said in this thread:

> [@](#):
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> I have heard that a breast reduction greatly reduces your chances of being able to breastfeed. While I do not know whether or not I will ever have children, if I do, I would prefer to have the option to breastfeed them if I so choose. Perhaps down the road, when I have gotten past the childbearing stage, if I feel that I would benefit from it, I will consider the procedure.

This probably would have closed the subject while letting him know that surgery isn’t all candy canes and moonbeams.

Also, does he realize he was a “potential date”? If he was in “just friends” mode and knows you well at all then I believe he should be totally off the hook. He may be more blunt than you like in your friends however.

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**Author:** ![transitionality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@transitionality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/transitionality)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/106 "2003-08-22T23:15:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\ ***transitionality** , I’ve had the dubious pleasure of reading some of your posts over the past few days. And allow me to say: I don’t like what I’m seeing.
> 
> If you carry on in this hateful, confrontational vein, your posting privileges on the SDMB will be revoked. \*\*

You’re blaming me for flaming in the BBQ Pit? This is the entire point of this specific messageboard!

Double standards, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Thylacinewas\_taken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@Thylacinewas\_taken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thylacinewas_taken)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/107 "2003-08-22T23:49:36Z")

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I’m sure he’s a fine physical specimin himself, and he is only doing the world’s women a favour by nitpicking.😛  
(_dripping with sarcasm_)

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**Author:** ![transitionality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@transitionality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/transitionality)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/108 "2003-08-23T00:43:23Z")

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I have no problems nitpicking. Women nitpick far more vigorously than I do across all kinds of axes of differentiation.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/109 "2003-08-23T01:11:01Z")

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**transitionality** , flaming is allowed. Flaming is the product of anger as a rule. It is intended to vent, even to scold. But its purpose is _not_ simply to hurt feelings. Too many of your posts are clearly intended to be cruel, without any other purpose - witness your post above to **jesleigh**. What an incredibly rude, hurtful thing to say (if she bought it, which hopefully she did not), serving no purpose but to try to make someone feel bad about herself! That’s not flaming. That’s malice. There’s a difference.

I must admit that you are beyong my comprehension, because I can’t imagine someone who gets his jollies by hurting other people. But your posts (not all of them, but many) clearly _are_ intended to hurt. I guess you like the attention it gets you, or something. I really don’t know; I can’t. But (and again, I am no advocate of relentless niceness), that kind of malice is not welcome here. It contributes nothing, it has no point beyond its hurtfulness and some sad kind of boost you get from that.

If there were any hope of helping you, you might be better tolerated. But you’re clearly not stupid, and poster after poster has told you that your behavior is unacceptable (and pathetic. Do you have any idea of how revealing of your own insecurities your posts are? I would think you’d have to, and yet you continue to make them.) In any case, no, that kind of behavior is not welcome here, and if it goes long enough, it’s not permitted. No double standard. A single one. Keep going as you have been, and the moderators will boot you.

It’s rather sad. Normally I’d welcome someone whose vocabulary, grammar, and spelling are as excellent as yours. You clearly take care with your posts. What a shame, what a waste.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/110 "2003-08-23T02:44:02Z")

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Liking **AvhHines** more and more, despite us disagreeing about when and where someone should be able to discuss someone else’s boobs.

😃

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**Author:** ![jesleigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@jesleigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesleigh)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/111 "2003-08-23T03:42:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AvhHines \*  
> \*\*\*\* witness your post above to **jesleigh**. What an incredibly rude, hurtful thing to say (if she bought it, which hopefully she did not), serving no purpose but to try to make someone feel bad about herself  
> \*\*

Don’t worry…jesleigh has seen his post before too and does not have the time or patience to worry about someone of such low intellegence level. I am quite proud of my figure, and have worked hard to get into the shape I am today, and will not let any jerk, such as the above mentioned, make me feel bad about myself…He is simply wasting his time 😉

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/112 "2003-08-23T06:05:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by deb2world \*  
> \*\ ***elegiac** yep your post count has now changed. I can now raise my eyes from just staring at your post count and actually look you in your titles. 🙂  
> \*\*

Freud would have a field day with me. I swear I read this way too fast and thought it said _raise my eyes from just staring at your post count and looking at your t!tt!es._

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/113 "2003-08-23T06:13:29Z")

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Say, **transitionality,** I’m relatively new here, though I’ve lurked for a long time. I get the impression that the moderators don’t really have to strictly follow any hard-and-fast rules. They can and do ban people on the basis of just not wanting to hear from them again. I gather that they look askance at anyone who has a heavy tilt toward flaming when they first come here. The board veterans learn _how_ and _how often_ to flame. So maybe it looks like they get away with it. Actually, they just learn the board’s culture.

If you like it here, and I hope you do, it’s always wisest to hang out and post in some of the other forums in the beginning, and save the BBQ Pit as kind of a guilty pleasure.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/114 "2003-08-23T11:21:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \*  
> \*\*Liking **AvhHines** more and more, despite us disagreeing about when and where someone should be able to discuss someone else’s boobs.
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> 😃 \*\*

Right back atcha! 😃

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/116 "2003-08-23T21:06:56Z")

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LOL, **AvHines** is a woman. And you obviously didn’t read, because she and I DID disagree regarding our separate viewpoints on this whole thread.

Not to mention, I liked her right away just based on her posting styles.

You’ve posted here 3 times and you know enough about me to know my motives for something?

Hmmmmmmm, nice try, could it be a returning, formerly banned mysogonist of ours? Trans?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/117 "2003-08-23T23:10:25Z")

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Oh my lord, he _did_ get himself banned! **Transi** , that is. I wonder what his last straw was.

**Luci-Trans** , don’t you get it yet? It’s entirely possible to argue, even vehemently, even to get a bit snarky, and still like and respect the person you’re arguing with. What _you_’ve been doing, on the other hand, is to run around trying to hurt people by saying the cruelest things you can think of, with very little actual point to make but that all women are romance-whores, all men are beauty-whores, and really all of it is just about sex (of which, of course, you get as much as you could possibly want) and ego (yours, of course, being perfectly secure).

And you know what? Lots, maybe most, women _do_ want romance; lots, maybe most, men _do_ want beauty, and many things in life at base are about sex, ego, or both. But you’re kind of like a third grader who has just found out where babies come from, and insists on telling everyone he meets the details. You see, adults for the most part already realize this. What we _also_ see is that for most of us, life becomes about a great deal more.

Back before you were born, a book was written called _I’m OK, You’re OK._ Supposedly that was the only way to be psychologically healthy. Me, my attitude has pretty much been “I’m not especially OK, but you’re not either, so _that’s_ OK.” 😃

But you? I suspect you thought “I’m not OK, but you’re ok.” and then suddenly seem to have discovered “Oh my _ **God** _, you’re not OK after all, you stinking hypocrites!”

**Transi-Lu** , we already know. We know we do things because we want romance or beauty or sex or ego boosts. But we _also_ do things for lots of other reasons, and hey, it’s the only game in town anyway.

So get over it and join the human race. Or don’t. But if you’re not going to, take your bitterness and your malice elsewhere. We’re getting on with our lives, despite our imperfections. That’s the essence of growing up.

Oh, and **Canvas**? XXX!

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/118 "2003-08-23T23:22:15Z")

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Oh my heavens, in the time it took me to write that, **Lucid** was banned too. Guess it didn’t take the moderators long to figure out who was back. Good call, **Canvas!**

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**Author:** ![apricot\_syrup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@apricot\_syrup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apricot_syrup)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/119 "2003-08-24T06:50:52Z")

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My goodness, this is how disagreement is handled on this board? The moderators ban the posters with the unpopular viewpoints? Is this supposed to be a “good call”?

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/120 "2003-08-24T18:24:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AvhHines \*  
> \*\*Oh my lord, he _did_ get himself banned! **Transi** , that is. I wonder what his last straw was.
> 
> **Luci-Trans** , don’t you get it yet? It’s entirely possible to argue, even vehemently, even to get a bit snarky, and still like and respect the person you’re arguing with\*\*

Okay, I guess I got whooshed by something. What was going with trans?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-look-too-bad-you-just-need-a-boob-job/196122/121 "2003-08-24T18:42:17Z")

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**Andy** , **transitionality** got banned, re-joined as **Lucid Dreaming** and got banned again almost immediately. No deliberate whooshing.

Woo-Hoo!!! My 100th post! 😃

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