# You don't need to make up words, goddammit!!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016 "2004-05-25T17:26:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/21 "2004-05-25T20:02:17Z")

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I’m getting a whole Don King vibe here:

“Saddam done been hypnotized and Iraqitized, he got the victimization of his Ba’athification.”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/22 "2004-05-25T20:04:26Z")

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Aw, c;mon. English, withs its shameless borrowing from other languages and Germanic heritage, is one of the best languages ever for making up words in. What tremulous impulse causes native English speaker to despise this magnificent feature of our mother tongue?

Iraqiization is poor formation; it should be Iraqicization, as **Larry** points out. But it’s a great idea for a word.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/23 "2004-05-25T20:07:48Z")

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Surely, if anything, it should be Iraqification?

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/24 "2004-05-25T20:12:55Z")

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Wouldn’t ‘iraqization’ be a naturaller paralike to ‘ulsterization’? It’s double-plus-euphonius additialso.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/25 "2004-05-25T20:22:57Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Surely, if anything, it should be Iraqification?

Yeah, that does sound better. What the hell’s up with “Iraqicization,” **Larry**?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![mkl12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mkl12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkl12)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/26 "2004-05-25T20:35:37Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Google only turns up seven results, all referring to the same story!!

Google turns up only seven results for this spelling (iraqiisation), but 13 for iraqiization, 234 for iraqisation and **961** for iraqization. That makes it a real word, doesn’t it? 😃

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**Author:** ![mkl12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mkl12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkl12)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/27 "2004-05-25T20:41:02Z")

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Oh, Iraqification gets 4560 hits and Iraqicization 86. So the majority vote goes to _Iraqification_, **GorillaMan** is the winner!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/28 "2004-05-25T20:42:24Z")

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> [@mkl12](#):
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> Google turns up only seven results for this spelling (iraqiisation), but 13 for iraqiization, 234 for iraqisation and **961** for iraqization. That makes it a real word, doesn’t it? 😃

And 4,500 for Iraqification. I’m guessing this’ll be the winner.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/29 "2004-05-25T20:45:38Z")

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“Would you like those fries Iraqicized?”

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/30 "2004-05-25T21:07:53Z")

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Iraqification embiggens the smallest Iraqi…

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/31 "2004-05-25T22:09:20Z")

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I actually scanned the page for “embiggen” before I posted.

I’m so ashamed.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/32 "2004-05-25T22:11:24Z")

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> [@mkl12](#):
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> Oh, Iraqification gets 4560 hits and Iraqicization 86. So the majority vote goes to _Iraqification_, **GorillaMan** is the winner!

Woooo-Hoooo!!! Do I get the star prize, two weeks in Falluja???

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/33 "2004-05-25T22:23:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Oh, Iraqification gets 4560 hits and Iraqicization 86. So the majority vote goes to Iraqification, GorillaMan is the winner!

Google fight! Google fight!

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/34 "2004-05-25T22:29:08Z")

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Hmm, I typed in “Irag Lesbian” into Google and got 392,000 hits. Now if i can just work it into my everyday life…

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/35 "2004-05-25T22:46:35Z")

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As for me, I keep wondering when we will return to _normalcy_.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/36 "2004-05-25T22:58:52Z")

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以伊制伊\*\*!\*\*

Neener neener.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/37 "2004-05-25T23:01:00Z")

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> [@Esprix](#):
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> I actually scanned the page for “embiggen” before I posted.
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> I’m so ashamed.
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> Esprix

Admit it, you scandadized unpossible too 😃

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/38 "2004-05-26T00:40:53Z")

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**Larry** , what does it mean and how’d you do it?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/39 "2004-05-26T01:20:21Z")

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It’s how “Iraqification” is usually translated into Chinese.

If you transliterate it back into English, it just means “Government of Iraq by Iraqis,” as near as I can make out.

I cribbed it from an online article.

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-need-to-make-up-words-goddammit/247016/40 "2004-05-26T01:33:58Z")

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Well I’m glad you spilled it, 'cause all I could find was the first character: [以](http://www.thejapanesepage.com/kanji/kanji.php?u=1&kanji_id=120) (meaning more, with, on account of), and that 制 means system or bureaucracy. Also [Babelfish](http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr) seems to think you said “From here the Italy system Italy”, which didn’t help me at all. 😉

Which just proves that verbing weirds language. 😃

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